Wolves banter 2

10 Nov 2025 09:49:48
I see both Hwang and Toti saying they are looking forward to working with Rob. I hope Rob has seen enough of them both to avoid starting them in any games for the foreseeable future, likewise Bellegarde, Agbadou and more often than not Munetsi.


Also hope, as we have already mentioned he gives the younger lads a chance, Mane, obviously and what happened to the winger from South America, can’t even recall his name now?

10 Nov 2025 10:54:03
Funnily enough I always wondered what role munetsi was supposed to be in, on Saturday I was wondering what we were short of first half and I twigged it was munetsi not popping up here there and everywhere Banksy, up we weren't exactly doing anything until Mane came on with his energy, then of munetsi missed the target again when he had the chance.
The problems we've got with toti agbadu and mosquira, ( santi and kraicji Doc aside), is who do you play when needs must? I'd like to see young Alfie Pond have his chance.
Midfield we're lacking, but if Edwards can reinvigorate Andre and Gomez, without suspension or injury it's OK. Who slots in tho? We're back to bellegarde and munetsi, although with a different approach I think Wolfe and Hugo could work well and see Hugo going forward in a RAN mold, maybe the we have lopez Arias tolu and Larsen to choose from, there'd be no need for Hwang, who with all respect gives us little if anything.

(Incidently did you notice the longest run by a wolves player with the ball on Sat was hwang going back towards our goal?).
The winger from S America? Did we actually acquire the lad? There's someone who's been out injured who I can't remember, Lima of course is out on loan.
But we've other youngsters the lad Sutherland U21 Scotland for one who could maybe introduced as the season goes on, but whatever happens Rob has got to change the mentality of this squad, lift the confidence and aims.
Maybe Jeff could offer extra financial incentives for survival?

10 Nov 2025 11:56:05
Don't get this Bellegarde hate tbf. Granted, he's hardly up there in the upper echelons of Premier league stars but, at the lower levels we operate at, I can easily think of well over half a dozen players who I'd have for the chop before him. At least he tries to be positive and break the opponents defensive lines. Who else can we say that about?

10 Nov 2025 12:40:50
I have think Bellegarde has been one of our best players so far this season (not much to choose from). He is positive in the way he plays and looks to take on his man rather than keep playing the ball backwards. We have x2 big forwards who could be a handful but I think our wide players are letting us down. I don't rate Bueno that much and I think Jackson needs some confidence in using his pace against teams. The guy is or one of the fastest players in the league but it is like he is chained when attacking.

I have read that we will spend in January which does not surprise me as our summer business was awful. January window is known to be a poor window and what good players will want to come anyway? we had the issue in summer where players did not want to come.

10 Nov 2025 12:44:56
Trouble is Abbey, Gomes and Andre are very similar players and even when playing with confidence don't exactly compliment each other, particularly when we play a back five. Just one of the many and various conundrums that our new manager will face.

Perhaps the biggest is how do we stop crosses going into our box? To my eyes, this has been one of our major downfalls but from what we've seen this season to date none of our full/wing backs are anywhere near capable and so always need assistance from others.

10 Nov 2025 13:35:04
The appointment of Edwards will do very little in my opinion. Tbh I think he will be lucky to win five games such is the malaise of the club. The efforts by all need to be on removing Shi and Fosun

10 Nov 2025 14:19:11
I think the South American winger you are talking about Banksy is Enso Gonzales, currently in the under 21s.

10 Nov 2025 14:31:49
Shi and Fosun won't be going anywhere unless China invade Taiwan

10 Nov 2025 15:08:06
Can't disagree old wulf regarding gomez and Andre, but who else have we got? Andre as been having abit of a sulk and gomez running around chasing, I just think they'd play better with support for their style. The crossing in is somewhere that needs resolving, and to that end with both Wolfe and Hugo ahead of him lending a defensive left midfield combo maybe that'd be netter than Hwang wandering about.
On the crosses I truly feel pond could help out ahead of toti, with a decent distribution out .
Mane gives the energy and skill to provide the forward ball quicker with larsen being given the edge over tulu in holding the ball and head on.


Right side I totally agree Alex, jackson can be a powerhouse down that wing, if, we can play accurate balls for him, and as with adama, keep up with him.
Defensively the right worries me, not sure either mosquira or santi can close quick enough or maybe their minds have been half watching the spaces between toti agbadu .
Thankfully it's not my problem to address but if Edwards dosnt do anything QS it won't matter what Fosun and Shi do this season, but their presence won't be encouraging the calvalry brigade of players we'll need in January

10 Nov 2025 15:22:01
Cheers Ray that is the fella 👍

09 Nov 2025 13:49:11
The new manager / coach needs to bench JSL and give Tolu a run.
Bellergard is at least trying however Hwang and Munetsi are not good enough.
Krijce should be captain and if it a back four the Tchautchua Santi Krijce Hugo
Mid field of Andre as the holder with Gomes and Fer lopes
Tulo up top with both Mane and Areas as false tens
No reason to change the keeper.

09 Nov 2025 14:07:00
NandoFC22 look at my comment below must be reading each others minds.

09 Nov 2025 15:04:26
Rob Edwards is in he's agreed terms

09 Nov 2025 16:03:16
The biggest concern I have at the moment is how much money has been burnt. Every player that has arrived and many that were here must have devalued substantially. How much is JSL worth now, 50m + only a few weeks ago, Fer Lopez, Arais, the only one that may have held his value is Krajic but we haven't bought him yet.

I wish Rob Edwards all the very best as he is very courageous taking on this poisoned chalice. Here's hoping

09 Nov 2025 22:34:27
Dmac123 if we mere supporters can pick a team why couldn’t VP

10 Nov 2025 06:46:27
VP did pick the players to do the job and achieve the end he wanted., Nando.
That's why he's not our manager anymore.

10 Nov 2025 20:33:00
Rob Edwards is a braver man than me! If he can get the best out of this Wolves squad, we can stay up. Plus, he has the January window to bring some more skilled players in. After all, he got little Luton overachieving for a good while in the PL, but even this Wolves squad is better than Luton's was. Conversely, Slot has somehow got mighty Liverpool underachieving, based on squad quality. The right head coach can even get a team of journeymen players performing well above themselves. Let's hope Edwards is that head coach! Slot seems to be showing his limitations at Liverpool in spite of their ludicrously expensive squad. It's as much about the head coach is it is about the players.

09 Nov 2025 13:24:08
My team to play CP is a back 4
Johnstone
Jackson
S Bueno
Krejci
H Bueno
Gomes
Andre
Mane
Lopez
Arias
Tolu

Iwould see if Mane can play just be hind Tolu with Arias and Lopez on the wings give Wolves more of a threat going forward RE has to try something different so why not.

09 Nov 2025 13:46:23
Rob Edwards to be appointed tomorrow

09 Nov 2025 13:47:26
Good shout DMac, a 4231 formation why not, might actually create some chances 🤞👍

09 Nov 2025 13:53:39
I think that's about the best side we could put out at the moment DMac, I'd go with that, as you say, why not?

09 Nov 2025 15:24:46
Don’t get why everyone was so desperate to keep jsl and now want rid of him. He’s had an injury and gets no service. He would have scored both of tolus efl cup goals. I’m all for tolu but not sure he’s better than strand Larsen, who scored 14 goals last season.

09 Nov 2025 15:58:30
IIkleywoves you will never know untill Tolu gets a chance because at the moment Larsen is useless and Wolves need a change simple as.

10 Nov 2025 11:57:39
Without access to the stats it's hard to say but I suspect JSL goals last season came as a result of Cunha assists and RAN crosses.

09 Nov 2025 11:04:28
I think we need to provide Rob with a little help, he obviously reads our posts:-

1) No more Whang or Bellegarde
2) Drop JSL for the time being
3) Play more creative players, Mane, Lopez
4) Sign at least 1 midfielder in January
5) Prepare for the inevitable lack of help from Jeff and losing our best players every year

I would say no more Toti or Agbadou, however we will have no defenders left.

Absolute mess, best of luck Rob, you must be a little mad to join us.
Best we can hope for is he manages to restore a little confidence, changes the players, and we somehow look a different side. Long shot I realise, but have to cling on to something.

09 Nov 2025 12:19:44
I would really like to know how Jeff lured him to us?

09 Nov 2025 12:30:08
I assume Rob Edwards decision is as much to do with family as football. He is local, and that is a great tug. It must have been on his wishlist to manage Wolves at some stage. If he comes in now and manages to get a tune out of the players he may well keep some for the challenge next season.

A quick return will look good on his CV, and if a new owner materialises in the meantime he may well have a great influence over the coming years for Wolves. It is a risk, but you have to take the opportunity and weigh up the risk and your own belief.

09 Nov 2025 13:27:27
Wimbornewolf - It has been said elsewhere before, make yourself available, attend the interview, say the right things and promise to bring results, do the job, get sacked and take the money!

09 Nov 2025 13:51:28
Plus being a Wolves Manager you won't have to wait too long for the sack and subsequent pay off OAP Wulfrunian. Maybe less than 12 months.

09 Nov 2025 16:28:45
Well. If he keeps us up.
It will be regarded as a modern day miracle
But I think its to get us back in long term to
Prem status if we go down

10 Nov 2025 06:55:01
If he gives me honest, entertaining, genuine effort and hope, and more importantly pride even in defeat, then he'll have gone someway to building for the future.
Maybe we won't be seeing the exotic players from abroad, but Edwards should have seen the potential in lower priced lower league names who can give us what we need to rebuild and return to the top.


What Fosun have in mind for us remains to be seen.

09 Nov 2025 10:09:12
Desperately need a leader on the pitch who leads by example. I personally think that player is Krejci who should be made Captain immediately.
Let’s give Rob a chance by at least showing some positivity and support on this platform if possible.

09 Nov 2025 11:13:01
Not sure what difference that will make Oxley but all Wolves Managers/Coach's are supported by the fans, initially at least.

Perhaps the owners should match that support for them, the Club and the fans for that matter.

09 Nov 2025 11:49:51
Toti is definitely not capable of being captain shouldn't even be on the side

09 Nov 2025 14:29:40
Toti is lazy and useless.should never be seen again in a Wolves shirt!

Just my opinion

09 Nov 2025 09:17:54
Forget staying up this season.
It’s all about what happens next season. We have to hope that the new manager can somehow get us into a position whereby we seriously challenge for promotion. Some of the best seasons I have experienced in my 60 years of supporting Wolves have been promotion seasons so it ay necessarily the end of the world.


BUT the worry is that due to Jeff’s monumental incompetence and Fosun’s apparent lack of interest we may instead be looking at a drop to league 1.
For now please let’s get a win under our belts and get to 12 points as soon as possible. Then go from there.
Good luck Rob, you’re going to need it with Jeff, but we are all behind you.
COYW
FWAW

09 Nov 2025 10:07:41
Club is in total shambles thanks to Shi.

09 Nov 2025 18:13:45
3G : you're spot on, if Fosun remain and don't replace Shi the slide down the football pyramid will continue unabated, supposed to work with Managers and Coaches not blame them for your own inabilities.

09 Nov 2025 08:18:09
It really doesn't matter who comes in as manager/coach!

That team selection yesterday was directed from above Collins. He said in pre match he had been around the training pitch and knows the players! Really? Why on earth did he have whang and Toti on the pitch? And as for JSL (and I know I'll get some stick for this) but that boy can't trap a bag of cement, let alone get half a yard of pace off a defender! He will probably be worth £5.50 and a mars bar wrapper in January!

I bow to BB2 and TFIOG nothing and I mean nothing will change untill that monumental half wit Shi gets his hands out of the football pot!

I don't think 38 points will be enough to save a team this year given how the promoted teams are performing, that means we have to win 13 from 27! Near as damit 50%! Which new manager/coach that wants to come to this sorry state has that in his locker?

09 Nov 2025 08:38:15
Collins should be sacked also. That was disgraceful. I don't know what the game plan was except to try and get a point from a 0-0 bore draw. There was no way we were going to score. Our strike force (force😂😂) are absolutely useless.

Hwang wouldn't make it in a Championship side. JSL can't control a football. The team selection again was rubbish. It needs a complete clear out.
Good luck Rob Edwards because you've got a massive job on your hands with this lot.

09 Nov 2025 08:39:59
'Monumental half wit' 😂.

09 Nov 2025 08:50:50
Lets face it guys, we are down but I hope our new manager can at least get us fighting and set the team up to at least compete and then we can plan for next season in thr Championship.Can also get rid of the dead wood which we all tend to agree who they are.Hwang, Toti, JSL to name a few.
Last night when we went behind there was no fight, no effort and just no quality apart from maybe Gomes and Mane.

Just hope we don't finish with the lowest points tally when the inevitable happens.

09 Nov 2025 08:53:37
I no it’s all doom and gloom at the moment but I think rob Edwards loves our club and will put his heart and soul into it he knows we might get relegated but I think he will have a total revamp and might pinch a few players from Middlesbrough just hope they back him what would be nice if shi and fosun do one and we get took over and get back to the good old Nuno days we can all hope

09 Nov 2025 09:09:00
When you see the team sheet and the names Toti, Whang, Bellegarde you know we are in serious trouble. If Collins knows the players surely be wouldn't pick that lot. They must surely be regretting not taking the money for Larsen, he's not interested. Why do they have an Academy, or under 21s, they produce virtually nothing perhaps the coaching at that level isn't up to standard.

If Edwards takes the job you have to ask yourself why, Middlesbrough are a good side so why take on a disaster like Wolves. Seems strange to me perhaps he likes losing.

09 Nov 2025 11:00:41
It's not that he's not interested Ray he just isn't good enough and never was really. Yes he scored a few last season but unless you are Gerd Muller ( showing my age!) you need more to your game. Shows how desperate Newcastle were last summer.

09 Nov 2025 07:56:54
Why would Rob Edwards leave 'Boro where he's doing ok with a board prepared to back him and who don't want him to go? Whereas at Wolves, he'll inherit a weak squad devoid of confidence and looking incapable of surviving in this league, but worst of all, owners who refuse to back the club and a Chairman who will sell off his best players every Summer then sack him before the following Xmas.

Sadly, I just can't see this turning out any differently but I'll leave the usual caviat that I hope that's not the case, but I just can't see it. Does anybody seriously think that if us fans are all positive about our prospects then magically we'll win games?

Shi and Fosun are culpable for our current situation no if's, no but's and frankly irrespective of whether Rob Edwards once played for us or lives in Wolverhampton he'll just be another victim of the clueless like the 5 that's gone before him. What was needed was a manager who's reputation alone would make the players and frankly the Club, buck up their ideas. Having said all that, I'm not sure if that would have ended well either, what a mess.

09 Nov 2025 08:19:35
Unfortunately I think you are correct Long, not impressed at all by last nights performance. Think we need a new manager who is a magician to save us this season.

Thought we would have a go at Chelsea, JSL needs time out of the team and play Tolu, Hwang, don’t get me started on him, useless majority of the time and Bellegarde goes missing. May as well have played with 8, what happened to giving others a go, surely with confidence lost, you play others, mind you as we sold all other midfielders and didn’t replace them this is difficult.
Think of the players we have let go or sold, Neves, Neto, Cunha, RAN, Adama, all capable of producing some excitement, none of the current squad are. None of them can create a goal scoring opportunity with a great pass or dribble. Between Jeff and VP’s so called recruitment our team now has no creativity and unfortunately less confidence. Rob would be more sensible to stay where he is then move to this rubbish, terrible to say but true.
Just abysmal.

09 Nov 2025 08:25:03
Got to agree longmynd.

09 Nov 2025 08:59:44
No manager of repute would touch us with a barge pole LMW. Not with this lot in charge. Not sure what Shi has told Rob Edwards to lure him to this shambles, but as someone has already pointed out he has and will be supported at Boro. He won't be here. He'll just watch as we all do as remaining assets are sold J Gomes, Andre, Kreji and we're left with the dross who we can't move on. Those that are getting a fat pay cheque for strolling around the pitch contributing nothing.

Hwang, Bellegarde, JSL. I'm struggling to believe that these are actually PL footballers as they seem incapable of either trapping a ball, or controlling one. There's not a chance in hell we could've scored yesterday as neither of our so called strikers could get hold of the ball. It's just so frustrating that it's difficult to put into words just how poor this team and the senior management are. Good luck Rob Edwards you'll need it!

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09 Nov 2025 06:55:27
Did anyone hear what VP supposedly said last week according to the commentators last night. This Wolves squad have no ability no technicalability and no physicality. Which I thought strange as he had a hand in picking 6 of these players in the summer transfer window according to reports.

09 Nov 2025 07:32:28
He's not wrong though Dmac. I would suggest that those 6 players weren't exactly first choice for all the well discussed reasons.

09 Nov 2025 07:41:06
LongmyndWolf after last nights showing I totally agree an absolute shambles.

09 Nov 2025 08:17:49
None of us no the real truth about our summer activities.
However, trying to piece together the way things evolved.
1. Pereira submits transfer target list pre-summer.
2. Shi announces new Football structure, brings in a Strategist (that
went well!). Hobbs moved out as Head of Football (he had the
network and Palace snapped him up).
3. Makes himself Head of Football, without the network of Hobbs.
4. Reviews Pereira's list, spends too long reviewing and then
rejects most or too late to approach successfully.
5. Internal gossip suggests panic sets in and Recruitment team
chasing too many uninterested targets and end up with in the
main, with unsuitable recruits.


6. The season now starts and manager hasn't had time to assess
new players.
7. New Head of Football announces "manager has 90% of his
targets". Really?!
8. A few games in, it is clear after trial and error, we don't have the
resources to survive.
9. Manager frustrated (haven't we heard that before?) and looks to
work his ticket (bizarre selections and tactics). Not a good look,
but he was not the first to go down that route.
10.Club now in free fall and still Fosun do nothing about the senior
management of the Club!
11. Caring fans absolutely in despair.

09 Nov 2025 08:51:14
Perfectly summed up Rugeley, you honestly couldn't make it up. Is it delusional, is it arrogance or just incompetence, probably all three?

All I know is there is one common denominator with this all the result of frankly guesswork at the top, quite fashionable in the UK these days, apparently.

09 Nov 2025 09:50:22
Sums it up well Rugely and yes it's Fosun and Jeff displaying everything longmynd describes.
Our club is in free fall, fosun don't look as if they're worried what happens, Rob Edwards is accepting a poisoned chalice and I obviously wish him the very best, but until big changes are made in Fosuns approach, or, preferably they go, we're only going one way shedding some decent managers along the way.


Fosun for an investment company you show little interest in Wolverhampton wanderers.