09 Sep 2024 20:58:53
Think the twin at Man Utd was Rafeal
The only other I had was Ayes Jordan and Andre
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10 Sep 2024 09:57:11
Interesting news that Fosun just sold the Thomas Cook travel business for £30mil but they are keeping the China division of Thomas Cook. They bought Thomas Cook for £11mil in 2019, so a decent profit, plus they keep China. It was explained that Fosun are selling non-core businesses to reduce overall debt.
My thought is, is Wolves a core business for Fosun or a non-core business? My guess is that Fosun still want the prestige of owning a Premier League club.
10 Sep 2024 20:59:24
Deep - sadly Fosun bought Thomas Cook out of insolvency in 2019 for £11m. They effectively bought it from themselves as they were major investors in the firm before its insolvency and lost multiples of that figure in the insolvency.
But fair enough they have now made a small profit from this sale.
Fosun is as far as I can see still rated BB/BB- ie "junk".
For those of you intersted anything below BBB- is considered speculative.
It goes BBB-, BB+, BB, BB- so Fosun are still a long way from financially stable although it seems are doing far better than before!
Suspect you are correct - we are non core but a great ego trip and hobby. Sadly relegation would negate all that and make us a financial burden as well but surely that means they will not allow us to sleep walk into relegation and as before will respond if required (in January 2025 or later)?
09 Sep 2024 17:45:30
What’s everyone think about GON saying we have to be patient with R Gomes. He looked great in pre season against some good sides. I have always been a believer that if you are good enough then it doesn’t matter how old you are. He definitely should be playing in front of Hwang right now who is way off the boil.
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09 Sep 2024 19:42:17
He did do well in the US but they were practice matches and `I would trust GONs judgement . Lima as well looks an excellent prospect. With regards to Hwang in my opinion he’s done nothing since returning from the Asian Cup last winter and should not be starting unless it’s to do with selling new shirts in Korea!
09 Sep 2024 20:22:07
The Premier League is a whole different ball game to a meaningless friendlies on waterlogged pitches in the USA VaBWolf.
We beat WHU in pre season but in the league when it matters they are currently in 13th position and we are in the drop zone.
Posted at the time that the USA tour was a futile exercise and at the moment that seems to be the case as no investors have come forward with £100 million Fosun were hoping to attract and the overseas fans do not appear to be flocking to Molineux to fill the empty seats currently on offer in all areas of the stadium for the game against Newcastle.
The Chelsea game was not sold out and posters pointed to the fact that it was holiday time and people were still away.
Is the NUFC game not a sell out as it’s on TV or because they have priced out the locals?
09 Sep 2024 20:49:04
Never understood why Hwang gets in the team. Only there to drum up far East interest. Come the next game he'll be in the starting line up, must have friends in high places!
09 Sep 2024 20:50:12
Agree. The same with Pedro. Don't see the point in spending that sort of money and holding them back. Like you say if they're good enough age doesn't come into it. From watching the pre season friendlies in the US and going to the last pre season home friendly, plus the cup game against Burnley both look excellent.
09 Sep 2024 21:48:25
3 games is hardly a sufficient sample, E, to be table quoting. 15 games minimum, I'd say.
09 Sep 2024 22:01:15
E from Wombourne. There was 31, 253
against Chelsea. The highest crowd for last season was just over 31, 500 against Liverpool with a season average of 31, 100 so not sure what your point is and comparing our current league position to WHU's is ridiculous. Pre season tours are not futile either as it's a means of increasing exposure and generating additional income. Fosun can't win with people. Maybe we should get Morgan back, who built up the stadium, but then stopped investing in the team. The Championship and EFL are littered with teams with massive stadiums and no crowds. Maybe Fosun can't or won't build a 70, 000 top stadium but we're still in the PL and they're supporting GON with new players to improve the squad. Honestly it winds me up the constant whining about our owners.
09 Sep 2024 23:16:09
Blackfords we had a crowd of 31600 vs Arsenal last season and 31500 vs Luton so why are tickets still available for Newcastle game was the question?
Newcastle could bring 20, 000 fans if allowed so why are we not selling our tickets even after as you say gaining more exposure from our USA tour?
The table means nothing apparently but serves as a useful guide to our demise.
10 Sep 2024 06:02:55
E, didn't you say the same thing against Chelsea but in reality Molineux was near capacity. Just like you said no one was buying the new shirt as it was cheap. I saw plenty of them.
10 Sep 2024 07:11:48
E from Wombourne. Newcastle would bring 20, 000 fans if allowed, so would many other teams in the PL. If allowed I'm sure our travelling support would be significantly higher than our allocation. If the Albion would have given us 20, 000+ tickets for the cup game last year we would have sold them. Regarding our so called Demise can I remind you that despite JL walking out a week before last season we were still pushing for a European spot until our complete front line plus Dawson sustained long term injuries. This season will determine where we are as a club, but PSR regulations has not helped clubs our size either, unlike Man City, Chelsea etc. You also mention WHU who also get more income than us because they were GIVEN a 70, 000 seater stadium.
10 Sep 2024 10:05:46
Clubs our size like Brighton, Blackfords who just spent £150 million and are looking for a top six finish through being well managed and supported by their owner.
Bournemouth and Brentford are showing more ambition than us and Palace are not being talked about as relegation candidates while we are.
WS you say the Chelsea game was close to capacity so what has happened to the 10, 000 on the waiting list eager to attend the games?
All of the other PL clubs sell out while our fans are losing interest and faith in the owners.
A lot of new faces sitting in SB stand as STH have not renewed.
10 Sep 2024 11:42:47
E from Wombourne. Didn't Brighton get £200Mill from free spending Chelsea? and regarding how the media view or report on us is really nothing short of shameful. They mostly can't be bothered to find out anything factual about Wolves. We were candidates last year also after selling/releasing all our top stars, yet in reality we only lost Neves, but with a great profit. The others WERE great players for us, but either age had taken it's toll or injury. It's a natural transition. Now with the exception of Dawson and Lemina we have a good young squad. I'm pretty sure we'll do more business in January also, with maybe a couple of out goings Sa, Traore and a CB coming in.
10 Sep 2024 12:49:34
A good young squad that are not ready for Premier League Blackfords as GON has already stated regarding Rod Go and was the question asked by the OP.
10 Sep 2024 16:52:57
Interestingly Brightons largest attendance last season was their game against Luton. Around 350 more than their first game against Man Utd this season. Does that mean their fans are losing interest and faith in their owners?
Also last season only 2 teams had a sell out crowd, once each. They were Man City and Bournemouth. It seems none of the other clubs sell out their crowds. We sell roughly the same percentage as all other clubs.
Regarding players not being ready, again referencing Brighton they rarely buy young players who go straight in to the team. Most young players take some time to get used to the prem standard. And it’s not like we don’t have enough experience in the team to help one or two of the inexperienced. Some of the comments on here are so misleading and mostly based on bs from what I can tell.
10 Sep 2024 17:33:33
E, I must have missed your point regarding the 10k eager to attend games at Molineux.
The fact that 31235 attended the Chelsea game proves that the fans are still interested and tickets will be sold.
Also regarding the new shirts you said wouldn't sell. How do you explain the away top running out due to high demand?
10 Sep 2024 19:01:02
Typical of Fosun bad management WS if they have indeed run out of away shirts when fans are looking to buy them.
As we haven’t won an away game since February and don’t look likely to win one in the near future good luck to the fans buying the away shirts after the protests of the summer when it was agreed that we would renew our season tickets but not buy any merchandise from Fosun.
10 Sep 2024 21:11:25
E from Wimborne, being the wind up you are, and your downcast ill informed views. Wouldn't it be easier to follow some other team? Although you do provide a laugh.
10 Sep 2024 21:43:16
E, your not making much sense. In one post you say that the ground isn't full and that there are new season ticket holders then the next you're saying the STH all renewed but didn't buy the shirt. Which is it?
10 Sep 2024 23:06:31
Abbey you can change your job change your wife but you can’t change your football team.
I was moaning about The Wolves long before Fosun and will be long after they have gone.
11 Sep 2024 01:37:48
WS you are not making any sense in claiming that the squad is stronger than last season but not picking any current players in your all time PL team and claiming that away shirts are sold out when they are freely available to buy in the club shop and on the website.
11 Sep 2024 04:52:09
Pay attention to your club E. The black shirts were sold out and are now back in stock. It can be a marketing ploy of course but it was true.
The first shirt was slow to move at first judging from wearers in the crowd.
The third option will be unveiled today if your interested.
11 Sep 2024 06:07:19
So E, it's clear you're a WUM because there were no away tops available in the club shop yesterday and on the website, you can only pre order one which I have done only to receive an email that it will be dispatched when available. Sometimes you need to just talk facts rather than the negative stuff and blatant lies you talk.
11 Sep 2024 08:31:43
E from Wombourne. A very good point regarding my all time Premier League 11 and my lack of current players. The only issue I have is that Doherty, Joao Gomes and Cunha are in the current squad so again, you've posted a blatant lie.
11 Sep 2024 12:43:26
Oh dear, seems someone has been found out for their constant lies and twisting of the truth. Interesting to see that Newcastles plans have been slowed down due to ffp etc. it’s not as easy as just spending money it would seem. Also villa fans up in arms about ticket prices for their European games. No such problems when we achieved europe of course it wasn’t champions league but still.
12 Sep 2024 12:49:05
A season ticket in Liverpool’s Kop is less than one in Wolves South Bank Goatmark.
12 Sep 2024 14:15:05
Funnily enough at this point I don’t believe anything you say E, I could waste more time looking it up but it’s a lot easier just assuming that pretty much anything that you say is complete tripe. Most of us now know you as a liar and someone who manipulates what people say to fit your agenda. So nice try.
12 Sep 2024 14:24:25
Ok so I did look it up and of course it’s yet more manipulation and lies from you E, there are 4 different prices at the kop, 3 are more expensive and one is cheaper. I presume the worst seats are cheaper so the equivalent at wolves would be the seats in the Graham hughes stand which of course are cheaper. As I said you just manipulate the truth to fit your agenda. Maybe you aren’t aware your doing it but always looking for the negative in life can be quite detrimental to your mental state. I hope for your sake your aware.
12 Sep 2024 14:47:02
So a seat in Liverpools Kop is less than The South Bank as I posted Goatmark.
Comparing The Kop to the Graham Hughes stand is quite frankly laughable and shows that you most likely have never sat in either to watch a football match.
12 Sep 2024 15:41:48
Time to expose yet another untruth by E.
Season ticket in the Kop is £765 immediately behind the goals or £760 in the rest of the stand except right at the back where the price is £755.
Season ticket price in the South Bank at Molineux is £735.
These figures are taken from each clubs website.
So is suppose it goes down to who you believe. The clubs or E from Wombourne.
12 Sep 2024 16:07:24
Check your facts again WS as Liverpool sell tickets in The Kop from £713 for an adult and £534.75 for an over 65.
Not surprised that you have to look up the Wolves season ticket prices as you have stated previously that you are just a member.A member who will be limiting their attendance at Molineux this season due to the increase in prices.
Enjoy watching the NUFC game on the TV.
12 Sep 2024 17:01:11
Actually, I'll be at the game. Yet another fact you've got wrong. I will be going to 12 games this season depending on work commitments.
12 Sep 2024 17:05:47
And where are those seats E? Right in the corner where the equivalent Graham hughes stand is. Which is why I compared the two. Obviously the Graham hughes doesn’t have a roof which is why it’s about £200 cheaper than in the equivalent seat at the kop. And no E a seat in the kop is not cheaper, if you want to go with a generalisation then surely you go with the 3 prices that are higher instead you went with the one that was slightly cheaper and in the corner. How about we take the average price of seat in the kop, guess what it’s more expensive than at wolves. So once again you are wrong. Don’t you see that what your doing is twisting the truth to fit what you want to say? Any politician would be proud of you E.
And if you want to know I’ve sat in both despite being over 100 miles away, in fact I’ve sat in every stand even though it cost me a lot more to travel than the price of a ticket. Some of us aren’t as lucky to live so close.
12 Sep 2024 17:09:21
E from Wombourne, I've done a like for like comparison. The £713 tickets you mention are right at the back. But you are correct in saying that season tickets for O65s is £534.75. The only issue is, is that at Molineux, they are £524.
So could you please explain how you've worked out that the Liverpool tickets are cheaper.
08 Sep 2024 21:22:13
Just for laughs can you name Five sets of brothers that played in the Premier League
No google
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09 Sep 2024 06:05:53
Gary and Phil Neville
Rio and Anton Ferdinand
Fabio and Twin Brother at Man Utd
Kolo and Yaya Toure
Andy and Michael Dawson
09 Sep 2024 09:57:26
Wandering v impressive.
Def wouldn't have got the Dawsons!
09 Sep 2024 10:52:57
There is also the Wallace brothers. Rod and Danny both played in the Premier League but there was another brother who was also a footballer whose name I can't remember.
{Ed001's Note - Ray was the other brother, they all played for Southampton at one point I think.}
09 Sep 2024 15:30:38
Mario and Noah Lemina?
Sean and Matty Longstaffe?
09 Sep 2024 16:02:48
Wright-Phillips?
10 Sep 2024 06:45:02
The Futcher brothers.Ron and Paul?
10 Sep 2024 17:40:51
If you want to go back that far Nigel might as well sling in Hibbitts and Knowles but thought this was about the Prem
10 Sep 2024 17:41:42
Or how about Leslie and Denis Compton? 😀
10 Sep 2024 18:24:43
Laurel and Hardy?
07 Sep 2024 07:39:20
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Ali Dia And The George Weah Hoax
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08 Sep 2024 15:53:45
Tks - amazing story, funny but a little sad! I knew the Southampton bit but didn't realise he had such a long and varied career. I would wonder why clubs kept being taken in but clubs are always desperate and and thus vulnerable to making astonishingly stupid decisions.
At least no one paid £35m for him or gave him a massive, 80k+ plus per week, 5 year contract - which they then exteneded to 6!
Dia is obviously the worst ever player to play top level football but if fees and wages, especially relative to a club's annual income, are taken into account he falls miles behind our boy!
Indeed at circa 33% of annual income it is hard to imagine there is anyone even close to Fabio!
{Ed001's Note - harsh but fair.}
08 Sep 2024 18:12:57
This story makes me chuckle, as much as Graeme Souness makes himself out to be a no nonsense character, he still got the wool pulled over his eyes. Jamie Carragher recently said "it's a sore point and Grame doesn't like to talk about it"
09 Sep 2024 11:23:37
His excuses are just waffle.
05 Sep 2024 19:07:11
Bruno Lage could be set to join Benfica as their new manager, despite his failures at Wolverhampton Wanderers and Botafogo.
That’s according to Record, who say Lage is getting closer and closer to becoming Benfica’s new manager.
The newspaper has learned that Lage is currently the frontrunner for the position after the surprise dismissal of Roger Schmidt.
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06 Sep 2024 07:40:43
I'm told Lage is second choice behind Dean Saunders.
06 Sep 2024 09:51:25
Yes Mikebayleaf two of a kind, apart from Lage being our only manager since Bill McGarry to win at Old Trafford and oh yes got a Premier manager of the month award.
06 Sep 2024 11:26:29
Lage was brought in to do a job for Shi, shouldered the blame and now has to rebuild his career and reputation as Nuno and Lopetegui are doing.
06 Sep 2024 13:02:32
And Glenn Hoddle. The Worst Wolves Manager ever.
06 Sep 2024 13:35:00
Blackford, that's a bit strong! Worse than Zenga? A manager who prior to joining us had only once lasted more than 17 (I think) games in any managerial job, and who also doesn't seem to have achieved anything since leaving us.
06 Sep 2024 13:44:57
Dunno. Paul Lambert, Terry Connors, Walter Zenga, must run him close. T.C. never got a win at all.
06 Sep 2024 14:41:20
Deano was surely top of that pile ( or bottom) but Mark McGhee was pretty dire (remember those ridiculous panic buys before the 1998 FA cup semi?) and Tommy Doc was pretty bad too.
06 Sep 2024 15:03:22
It's all about opinions Arddunby 1.
I forget, but agree there's some pretty bad ones mentioned above. For me though Hoddle was hopeless.
06 Sep 2024 15:11:23
Sammy chapman😂😂
07 Sep 2024 15:24:08
Hoddle was weird too as well as useless. Didn't he say that disabled people are disabled because of their sins in a past life? I remember he did an early Lopetegui move on us by walking out just before the season started. At least Dean Saunders was just plain useless. I'll give Terry Connor a pass because he clearly cared about Wolves.
07 Sep 2024 18:08:49
Terry Connor had a thankless task when he was appointed he did his best, Saunders was another who was also totally out of his depth.
