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23 Jan 2024 18:17:08
I watched the game on TV this afternoon.
First let's address the ref and the Cunha issue/yellow card. Whilst it would undoubtedly be a total waste of time appealing it was clearly a horrendous error/piece of work by the ref!
Although the ref in the second half was ok in the first half he was awful and sadly let Brighton make a fool of him.
I had always assumed Brighton played lovely stuff and were super exciting.
What I didn't realise was how versed in the darker arts they are now under Zebri (sp)
In the first couple of minutes Estupian (sp) body checked a Wolves player to stop a fast break - free kick but no booking! Over the next 40 minutes Gilmour did this 4 times! Not once was a free kick given - presumably the ref didn't see as it wasn't the man on the ball he brought down but a supporting runner - in each case Cunha.
Perhaps hard to criticize the ref, who presumably didn't see the fouls, but the linesman and VAR must have - indeed Jenas, who pinned his Brighton colours to the mast pretty early on, commented on the 3rd that it was a clear foul but Cunha over played the contact (?) - so what were they doing?Whatever you think of today and today's ref we do though have a serious problem with refs and the bookings, (and presumably eventually suspensions), continue to mount up. Given the size of our squad this may hurt us.
Overall, despite Brighton having most of the ball and territory, a point was a little disappointing with Wolves having by far the better chances. Note however I would have taken it in a flash before the game.
Ratings Sa 7 - Had a calm afternoon and made everything look easy - some of it wasn't. Still not sure why so many Wolves fans don't rate him?
Doherty 7 - Didn't get forward as much as he normally does - presumably under instructions - but was solid at the back.
Toti 7 - Played well. Didn't look flustered or hurried despite the pressure Brighton applied at times.
Dawson 7 - Dominated the box and was strong. Showed good leadership. Not sure why he was booked.
Kilman 7 - Like Dawson was very strong. Both made countless blocks
Semedo 8 - Excellent defensively. Given our set up didn't do much going forward.
Doyle 8 - Worked v hard and made lots of challenges but was also calm and progressive on the ball
Lemina 7 - He was poor in the first half but got better and better as he worked his way into the game T . Great Engine!
Sarabia 6 - Pace of the game was hard for him but did ok
Cunha 6 - Missed a few chances and wasn't quite at his best, probably upset by the injustice done to him. Needs to put it behind him and we need to ensure that the refs going forward are made aware of what the opposition are doing illegally!
Neto 8 - So close to being a superstar. It would have taken very little for him to have been the match winner. Given he has only just come back from injury (again) I am really hopeful that we have a genuine star in our ranks - DO NOT SELL!
Subs
Bellegard 6 - Didn't really get into the game
Chirewa N/A Albeit on a brief performance showed maturity and discipline when called upon.

Flat marks across the team demonstrate just what a solid performance this was.
We are midtable but at the moment I'm looking up not down!

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 23 Jan 2024 20:10:34
As always very much appreciated Thefutureisoldgold, An excellent post/read.


2.) 23 Jan 2024 20:31:50
Note it was stated Cunha was booked for constant infringements but when he was booked I am not sure he had actually committed a single foul?
In the move pre the booking however Cunha and Gilmour came together twice.
Fistly Cunha challenged Gilmour who went down and at full speed it looked like a foul but on the replay it was clear that Cunha played the ball and in fact not only was there no contact but there was at least 12 inches of clear air between them. Gilmour went down - fell over/dived - but regardless the ref seemingly and correctly gave nothing?
A few moments/passes later Wolves having won the ball were again breaking and Cunha was attempting to get up in support. Once again Gilmour aware of the danger ran over and shoulder charged him to the ground - a clear foul. Cunha was then booked.
Unsurprisingly he was unhappy and at half time you can lip read him talking to the linesman coming off saying "he fouled me". He obviously believed he had been booked for being fouled by Gilmour who was set on ensuring Cunha could not join in the Wolves attack.
The refs statement that it was for persistent infringments and the booking itself would be laughable were it not so serious!


3.) 23 Jan 2024 21:37:26
When Cunha was booked it was described as ridiculous by Mikey. Tommo and Tom King. The sad part is there will be no consequences for the referee and his assistants they seem to be untouchable. It's time that changed. it won't though mainly because there isn't enough of them available to cover all the matches.


4.) 24 Jan 2024 08:37:47
Thanks Future, I listened to the commentary but your assessment gives a fuller picture.


5.) 24 Jan 2024 16:25:55
For me Sarabia gave the ball away too easily and didn’t look comfortable.
There’s talk (click bait)? Of selling him on and looking at a winger from Sunderland (Clarke?).
Any thoughts?


6.) 24 Jan 2024 19:21:57
Jack Clarke, young winger/forward, quick, two footed and performing well in the Championship. Question is, can he make the step up?


7.) 25 Jan 2024 11:21:45
In reply to the above if Jack Clarke could make the step up, Chquinho has already proven that he can and he won't cost us anything!


8.) 25 Jan 2024 15:12:48
The young lad from Ipswich - Chirewa (sp) also looked completely comfortable albeit for only a few minutes at the end of the game.
Since GON brought him on one can only assume he is confident in him as well?


9.) 26 Jan 2024 07:17:33
Hi TFIG, yes I agree GON has done a good job with him in training getting him comfortable playing with the seniors and making him feel like he belongs on the pitch with them, looks calm on the ball.


 

 

06 Jan 2024 12:04:59
There is currently lots of noise about Neto's future at Wolves with a growing acceptance that he will leave in the summer, normally with Arsenal as the destination.
What is less clear however is the "value" that Wolves will obtain.
I have heard figures ranging from £30m to £80m mentioned with outliers at £100m + {Note his injury record is often mentioned as the reason for the "low" figures}
For Wolves however the problem is though how do you replace him not just for the fee (whatever it is you receive) or the wages but in terms of players who will come to Wolves (geography and football status).
I therefore get to thinking who would be capable, (even if not willing), of replacing him 1 for 1 in the Wolves team.
Note many players might have similar or even better stats, (actually far fewer do if you include assists and not just goals where he is actually a bit "light"), but if those stats are achieved in more favourable circumstances are they as solid?
So restricting yourself to players who currently play in the Prem who are you confident could come in and do a similar job for Wolves.
Once you have your list, (I assume you have a v short one), think what those players' clubs would demand for their man and that is what Wolves need to receive for Neto!
That outlier doesn't look so silly now does it!

Thefutureisoldgold

{Ed002's Note - Pedro Neto (RW/LW) Versatile and looking to move on. Agent has been approached by Manchester United, who will need an Antony replacement, and Arsenal. It is unclear why Wolves are so kee and they clearly have other priorities, but they are. Juventus fear losing young left-footed RW in Matias Soule and may look to Neto. May be wanted in the Middle East which would push his value up. I would expect Wolves to as perhaps £50M for him.}


1.) 06 Jan 2024 12:48:30
I recent interview I heard by a Football finance expert was that Arsenal, Villa, Newcastle, Forest and Palace were all in danger of breaching FFP as they have spent big money on new players but not received as much for outgoing players. Arsenal have spent big on White, Partey, Rice, Odegaard and Jorginho in the latest FFP cycle and this is why they could only sign Raya on loan. If the sign Toney for £100m as well as Raya for £45m, then they will have to move some players on to facilitate any move for Neto.

We were linked with a young Portugese winger last week. Maybe he is the replacement for Neto. It is all guesswork at the moment but the good news is that we looked good recently when Neto was available so maybe GON is happy for him to move on for a big fee so that he can add more depth to the squad.


2.) 06 Jan 2024 16:07:19
Ed 002 and Jas thank you for two sensible responses. Jas you make valid points re Arsenal and depth - although not sure depth is easy to get right.
Given how hard I believe it will be to replace him (see below) and the fact that our FFP problens are now largely under control - still think we will need to be sensible this Jan but hopefully there will be a little wriggle room in the summer even without a major sale - I am as Ed 002 says unsure why Wolves are seemingly "keen" or even willing to countenance a sale?

I was hoping for a list of names from you guys of Premiership players who could replace him. Maybe you think he is irreplaceable? However, to encourage you, I will kick off.

I went through the mids on Fantasy football and identified those whose points per min were in line with Neto (ok not a perfect comparison but at least not subjective) and then eliminated those that played in a more central or defensive role but who, perhaps because they take pens, are up there. I then also eliminated the big team's players Salah, Son, Saka, Gordon, Doku, Foden etc.

This left:
Bowen and Kudus at WH, Olise and Eze at CP, Elanga at Forest, Mitoma at Brighton, Mbuemo at Brentford or Bailey or Diaby at Villa. How many of these can you realistically see coming to Wolves - maybe Elanga, (who I actually suggested as a Fabio option when United bought him for pennies a few years ago), but probably a round number?

Also, admittedly with my biased eye, I only really would want Bowen or Mitoma on a 1 for 1 basis, i.e. I would want to have cash left over aFter signing any of the others?
Thoughts or alternatives?


3.) 06 Jan 2024 18:36:59
Neto is unique as his runs direct and defenders and the quality of ball at the is normally up there.
Although some of these players have been in good form.
I would say Neto is similar to Jota before he left in that he is one of if not the best of the rest. And he would make a difference at a big side.
So for that reason I think he is worth more than £50m the others would be sold for £70m+.Why not Neto?
In terms of replacements it's tricky as the club have tried to bring in numerous players over the past 6 years.
When we played Chelsea they had Badiashiale and Madeuke who would have developed like Neves, Jota and Neto much better than they will at Chelsea.
But. Selling Wolverhampton a sthe place to play is hard.


4.) 06 Jan 2024 18:51:26
For me, if Neto does go, we don't need to rush out and replace him. Bellegarde and Hwang can play either side and we have Gonzalez currently adapting to English football and so he should be ready soon. Some players I would like and think can be a success with us are Dwight McNeil, Dwight McNeil and Jack Harrison.


5.) 06 Jan 2024 22:53:00
Madman - v good post
Jas Dwight Mcneil is a v good shout. However Jas I think Neto is a class above both the 2 Wolves players you mention, even Hwang in his undeniably purple patch, so whilst I agree they could play in those areas - in fact have done - I'm not sure that it wouldn't be a drop off in quality for Wolves
The mention of Chelsea does though show how hard it is to put a cash price on it - they paid over £80m for Mudryk (sp) who is not even in the same postal district as Neto - but others, like Mitoma, were signed for pennies, allegedly £3m in Mitoma's case, albeit before he was established in the Prem like Neto is?
For me Wolves won't be able to replace him 1 or 1 so as Jas says we will need to do a deal or two to add depth. However that comes fraught with difficulty.
For every good deal there are numerous bad ones and once you sell Neto you can't go back.
Ask Southampton they sold Shearer to add depth and got Speedie and Dixon seemingly a great idea 2 top players for one - but Shearer goes onto be a legend and the other 2 disappear without trace. Closer to home look how we spent the Robbie Keane money - badly! Or more recently the Jota money!
If at all possible I wouldn't sell but look to build the team around him, Cunha, Lemina and Gomes.
I believe that we are on the right road and that we don't need revolution just slow evolution.
Only Dawson needs replacing in the short term and our growth therefore can be from a position of some strength?


6.) 07 Jan 2024 17:10:10
I forgot Man U bought Anthony for over £80m as well. So 2 players not fit to lace Neto's boots bought for over £80m each?


7.) 09 Jan 2024 07:01:09
If Neto played for Brighton or Brentford he would be worth £100m so why are Wolves players always undervalued. Even if the mentioned teams overvalue their players, they still get it!


8.) 09 Jan 2024 09:34:13
Adeee - hard to argue. Neves "only" fetched £40m from Saudi but after a few months evidence he looks a far better bet than Enzo or Caicedo (sp) at Chelsea both of whom cost over £100m. Having said that Rice who looks better than all 3 again went for just over £100m
Maybe we over rate our players or maybe we missed a trick in not engaging Chelsea or Man United who seem to be the outliers in overpaying?


 

 

08 Oct 2022 22:24:11
ps forgot to mention that although several of the team stood and applauded the fans only Traore - who had been subbed off and thus was sitting on the bench on half way at the final whistle got up and walked to the fans - where he gave away his shirt and signed some autographs. Classy during and after the game!

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 09 Oct 2022 08:03:22
Your report and player ratings Thefutureisoldgold in team and matches section.
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2.) 09 Oct 2022 08:46:23
Just watching us on MOTD Thefutureisoldgold and saw the quality of Adama beat his man and cross for Whang who miss hit his shot it was perfect cross on a plate.
Whang take away the h and g and replace with another letter.


3.) 09 Oct 2022 10:11:56
Ps whang I mention for his miss yesterday.
I think he guedes and other players all have some quality it's a confidence thing I think.

Nunes I saw had an excellent run nearly the full length of the pitch and guedes fouled with the Chelsea player receiving a booking.


4.) 09 Oct 2022 10:16:13
Hwang is not a PL footballer, he started out well but petered out. Sell him to Leeds in January.


5.) 09 Oct 2022 10:16:51
Phil, that was just one moment in game, Hwang ran his socks off and chased every ball down, he could of done a bit better once or twice, but he was far from being bad, Costa, Podense, Nunes,Guedes all had good chances to get shots away,but either over played it or passed ball instead.


6.) 09 Oct 2022 10:28:56
Nice 1 Sydney ?
I redeemed myself as was wrong to judge on one miss that's all I was going on.


7.) 09 Oct 2022 10:49:39
Guedes is a waste of money.hwang aswell.nunes mite come good.but silly moneybwas spent on these players when we needed a quality fwd.lage has decimated our squad.i said wed be bottom after 10games with5points.not2far away.too many happyclappers out ther who couldnt/wouldnt see what was happening.lopetigui has been a good manager and should bring plenty of experience.but its time to break this portugese monopoly up.and the likes of jonny and motinhio need to be replaced along with jiminez aswell


8.) 09 Oct 2022 12:02:11
Tye happy clappers as you put it Bux is for me just wanting our team to do well.
Was the same in lower leagues in 80's growing up.
It never leaves me the thrill excitement of being wolves.

You are of course correct in your predictions as where we are now.

Regarding all.our players imo it's getting them to play to their abilities and as a team.
I have hope we will turn things around.


9.) 09 Oct 2022 13:14:09
Bux I was thinking similar regarding the Portuguese project maybe it's time to focus less on Portuguese talent and spread our wings more.
As for your happy clapper comment no need for it we just want the team to do well and we get behind the players.


10.) 09 Oct 2022 14:46:03
Tks Phil - his cross for Nunes was an even better chance - really Nunes has to score but doesn't. Sydney don't disagree re Hwangs work rate or your comment on us getting shots away - Costa in particular always seemed to miscontrol it or fail to get it out of his feet.
Bux obviously much of what you say I agree with although I think you know the problems are more complex and deep than maybe your posts lead people to think you believe.
Re Lage he obviously didn't help himself with some bizarre tactics/selections but given the issues in the squad/club his hand was somewhat forced.
Yesterday we only had 11 fit first 11 quality players but 3 are FBs so Toti had to play and I'm including Guedes - who currently looks hopeless, Costa who clearly isn't fit, Moutinho who shouldn't be playing 90 mins week in week out and Otto who hasn't yet recovered ( will he ever) from his injuries - in that 11. Not a great lot of choices there then in either selection or in reality tactics as 4,2,3,1 was pretty much the only line up they could play.
Indeed did Lage even get fired because he was losing games or because he effectively openly criticised Jeff with his failure to pick Toti (on the evidence of yesterday a correct decision mind!).
He like Nuno had clearly stated the squad was too small and openly stated he wanted amongst other things more senior CBs - in fact he wanted 2 players for each position in the squad!
Thus picking Neves was a direct challenge to Shi!
His pre sacking comments after the WH game on never losing when he had a first choice CF may in fact be correct I don't know but is also a totally unsubtle dig at Jeff.
He therefore, like Nuno, had to go regardless of the results.
Having gone from Champions league contenders after Seville (indeed even last Feb!) to now 2 years later relegation candidates if not favourites despite having spent circa £200m in the transfer market and hugely increasing the wage bill this surely indicates a genuine problem exists in the club far greater than the travails of Lage.
Who ever comes in now has a massive job on their hand and will need to spend v serious money in Jan to keep us up.
Who ever it is must be allowed to manage the club in the way both Nuno and Lage clearly stated it had to be run and Shi must have zero involvement - other than signing the cheques - from now on!
If you think this is going to be expensive - wait till you see what relegation costs!


11.) 09 Oct 2022 15:07:41
Fair comment.me too.was aimed at those that just refuse to see.and another thing. Am sick of podences stupid little flicks n tricks that never come off.he needs2grow up.coz he isn't all that.idiot


12.) 09 Oct 2022 17:04:31
Actually Sa also went over to the fans and gave his shirt to one, there is a video on Twitter.


13.) 09 Oct 2022 17:22:33
So Future your saying we got our shots away? because where I was sat, it was far from it, we got into good positions but la keep the confidence to get the shot away, instead 1 touch puch too many loosing possession or passing the ball, I agree with Costa comment, Hwang chased every ball around him, he's just turned into another scapegoat for the fans.
Some of the comments from so called fans in the away end are a discrace,yes they pay their money, but they are nothing but poison, that was my 10 years sons first away game and I felt sorry for him to listen to some of the rubbish at the final whistle.


14.) 09 Oct 2022 17:38:24
No Sydney I agree with you we didn't get our shots away!
Rated - I was there and didn't see that but if you have seen it on a video apologies to you and Sa!


15.) 09 Oct 2022 18:12:36
No apology needed thefuture mate I only originally saw Traore go to fans on tv, it was only when someone uploaded the video showing Sa going over too I knew Sa had.


16.) 09 Oct 2022 20:15:40
My apologies Future, I just read it back again with my glasses on this time, something I'm still getting used to.


17.) 10 Oct 2022 06:42:17
I was there on Saturday as well and thought though playing a superior side, we worked hard and rode our luck until the first goal.
TFOG summarises our woes very succinctly.
Saturday even more difficult due to the new manager unlikely to be with us by then.
This is a disaster 3 seasons in the making. The sacking of Dalrymple in 2019 was a seriously bad decision, compounded by Shi taking over the day-to-day running of the Club.
Now we have gone from having well-balanced squad to a dis-functional group.
Until Fosun realise their investment is at serious risk, we will continue to decline.


18.) 10 Oct 2022 06:51:03
Forest palace leicester next3up.should all be winable.but if not then wer in deep trouble whoever the manager is


19.) 10 Oct 2022 10:41:30
Not with the players currently at our disposal,Bux (Neves excepted). For games to be winnable we have to score and it's long odds on that we won't score in at least one of those games and it's odds on that we'll concede in all three. And there's our problem


20.) 10 Oct 2022 17:42:26
If Costa is going to have some fun it has to be with Leicester Forest Palace next up.


 

 

 

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29 Jan 2024 16:24:55
-----------It has been posted - stop sending the same thing over and over--------

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 29 Jan 2024 17:07:07
On "teams and matches" which very few people read?
Hence only Ken, who I told about the post, has replied?
Why not post on the main thread i.e. this page?
Don't want to be awkward but surely the whole idea of the site is to engender debate, which, as shown by the paucity of replies, is hard if you don't put posts on the main pages?

{Ed002's Note - Because the page is dedicated to information about teams an matches.}


2.) 29 Jan 2024 17:13:55
Sorry TFIOG.


3.) 29 Jan 2024 19:04:57
Loads of my stuff gets put on other posts mate it is up to us as fans to check those other sections such as other posts and teams and matches, clunmping everything on one section would just be a mess and a pain to scroll through.


 

 

27 Jan 2024 19:50:20
Allegedly Callum Wilson - who we could have signed in 2014 for just £4m (we resigned Leon Clarke instead?!) - is available for circa £18m as FFP bites Newcastle
Old, (soon to be 32), injury prone and on over £100k a week but v v good?
Whilst I suspect that there will a fairly lengthy line of clubs looking to sign him most of whom are probably ahead of us in the "pecking order" is he worth a look?
Can we afford him under FFP?
Given Otto has gone and Fabio and Sasa are out on loan with at least part of their wages paid we should be able to afford his wages and over a say 4 year contract he would cost £4.5m a year - or just about 2 places in the league which his goals would surely pretty much gtee?
Thoughts?

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 27 Jan 2024 20:46:55
If the price was right but only on a 2 year deal with option of 3rd


2.) 27 Jan 2024 21:50:51
We didn't sign him from Coventry because he got injured and was out for a few months. Instead of waiting, we opted for Clarke who was playing well at the time.


3.) 28 Jan 2024 00:09:01
I quite like Callum Wilson but as for signing him at 32 on I would imagine as you say future a 3-4 year contract I don't think it would be a good idea. My reasons why are based on his fitness record and I don't think he has the speed that we are probably looking for and at 32 that's not going any better. Sorry about that but not for me, mind you I'm sure Gary cares not one jot about my opinion!


4.) 28 Jan 2024 06:36:52
Doesn't really fit the young and hungry profile the club seems to prefer and his wages would be problematic, especially if we are in the hunt for a longer (younger) signing who may command a significant wage as well.


5.) 28 Jan 2024 10:03:32
It sounds like Costa the sequel to me. No more than loan until June then one year with an option for one more if the price is right.


6.) 28 Jan 2024 10:20:44
Jas I may well be wrong but wasn''t he also £4m whilst Clarke was avaiable for under £1m?
We probably either didn't have the money or since both were playing v well in a partnership for Coventry misguidely thought that both were equally good?
Bournemouth, who were 1 league below us but for obvious reasons then spent much of the ensuing time above us, took the gamble and the rest is history.
For what its worth I probably would take the undoubted risk now.
He has been injured a lot over the past couple of years but has still scored lots and lots of goals. When he plays he is superb!
For £18m, even if he only plays half a season, he would be a bargain
However 32 and high wages are also red flags so totally understand others views including the v sensible one re squad fit.


 

 

21 Jan 2024 10:26:10
Sounds as if reality has struck a lot sooner than I thought it would with Chelsea allegedly cutting the asking price to a "mere" £35m for Broja.
Indeed a loan with option to buy was even mentioned.
Clearly if it is an option in our favour I'd happily take him on loan for a look as long as it was only costing a modest loan fee and his wages - assuming they are £40k pw.
The upside is def there but at the moment £35m is in my view still far too much to pay up front.
It will be interesting though to see how other clubs who are perhaps more desperate than us react.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone bites and so we won't get it him but maybe?

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 21 Jan 2024 12:32:19
Get Fabio back and a straight swap?


2.) 21 Jan 2024 14:42:59
Seems way too expensive for 8 goals in 58 appearances Chelsea and Southampton.
I would say west ham or Fulham would be his destination being they're London clubs.

If costs are an issue Che Adams would be my shot.
He's a hard worker in the mould of what GON wants and good cover for whang and cunha.
I would imagine we would sign a big money signing in the summer.
GON has exceeded all expectations for fans aswell the clubs board.
So whoever our signings are under GON surely there will be 100% backing from fans whether they thought they were good enough or not.
I think the mistakes of silva and guedes was too much of mendes influence but ultimately the ceo takes the can.
Silva is the biggest flop because of his age guedes had good stats and both were valued high as they were because they both must of done something to warrant it.

The lessons learnt from silva and guedes I feel should be remembered in broja.


3.) 21 Jan 2024 15:25:48
Broja is an academy product, so any sale would be 100% profit, that's why the price is so high (reported £50-£60m during the week). Which would help Chelsea and their wild spending and complying with the new version of FFP.


4.) 21 Jan 2024 15:40:18
Phil. When you see the options available Adams isn't a bad shout depending on how much Southampton want. Plus it can depend on Adams not wanting to wait until the summer to negotiate a signing on fee.
He gives good options being able to lead the line and play out wide so covers what we need. That would me still being able to get a more expensive striker in the summer and his signing not be a waste. That can depend on Hobbs no being able to get Boulaye Dia on a loan to buy as we have been keen on him for some time.


5.) 21 Jan 2024 16:31:22
Good points Ken I personally have a lot more faith and belief in our next signings, the first ones with full input from GON and also the renewed encouragement I read on here.

Good point out Fordhouses I didn't see/understand that, But my thinking was the outlay for us so probably why it didn't come into my thinking.


6.) 21 Jan 2024 16:55:17
I'm afraid I disagree Ken, I feel that Adams would be a complete waste of money and not a sufficient upgrade on our current crop of strikers even though they are out on loan. Would rather rely upon Hwang and Cunha.


7.) 21 Jan 2024 17:16:49
How many minutes are there in an "appearance" just so I know how to determine if it is a good statistic or not?


8.) 22 Jan 2024 06:18:00
Fingers crossed ? we don't have any injury to whang and cunha.


9.) 22 Jan 2024 11:46:07
Have a look at Alexander Sorloth who plays for Villareal could we be doing some sort of swap with them as we a loaning them 2 players?. Worth looking at seems the type of striker GON likes.


 

 

18 Jan 2024 20:46:41
Will FFP impact transfer values/wages?
How many teams will now wish to pay 10% + of their annual income on 1 player - a huge risk
Given many premier league teams have annual incomes well below £200m, (and of course you have to pay the milkman etc etc ), that means that you can't spend even close to £15m a year on a player.
With wages of "big" players well over 100k a week that "only" leaves at most £10m a year of ammortisations which over 5 years equals an absolute maximum of £50m.
Seemingly according to Chelsea at least the price for a mid range to fringe Premier league player
Something has got to give?

Thefutureisoldgold

1.) 18 Jan 2024 23:23:05
I don't really expect a rush of clubs galloping up Kings Rd with 50 million to buy Broja. Decent enough player but 50 million, seriously? Nowhere near his form prior to his injuries so very optimistic of the Chelsea owners to expect that sort of fee. I'm sure based on the stupid prices they have paid for purchases an assumption has been made regarding sales pricing. Sadly they have assumed wrongly I hope, and certainly I don't see a UK club meeting that sort of fee.


2.) 19 Jan 2024 06:49:07
Agree Ken68. Chelsea haven't changed since the early Abramovic days and clubs overprice players because they know Chelsea will pay. They expect other clubs to follow and pay their stupid valuations. They've dug a real hole for themselves. I don't have much sympathy with Chelsea.


3.) 19 Jan 2024 07:55:59
I'm not financially bright so I might be going off at a tangent, but, man city can 'afford' to pay what they did for nunes, his wages etc and use him as a sub. Despite their 100+ ffp charges, (too complex to be concluded just yet!), yes I know the sponsorship and gate money and tv income etc.but surely this is an example of the money merry go round orchestrated by agents and 'big league' clubs which, accepting we took/needed the money, alienates the very same clubs like us?

Fraser as an example, I would rather we stick with and progress his career than commit finances, even just exorbitant wages, to a bench warmer from else where. We've got to compete yes, we've got to maintain a status but if teams such as ourselves took a stance would we be contributing towards the 'super league' breakaway or reigning things in?

FFP seems to be a threat to the modestly funded teams whilst the 'popular' city teams can progress with the media driven incomes from advertising, screening fees and so on and price us out.
Sorry, a bit of a ramble there but I think I know what I mean at least.


4.) 20 Jan 2024 12:55:22
Abbey you have I think hit it on the head.
The big clubs with several hundred million more per year income than the rest can spend far more on transfers and wages than the smaller teams.
This gives them a huge almost impossibly large advantage!
They can always out bid you on players and can always pay far higher salaries to their players making you vulnerable to your players wanting to leave to go to them. Forcing you to pay them equally large wages - which you in reality can't afford!
Although they are equally impacted by FFP in that they also have to live within their means it is surely easier to do so when you have a few hundred million every year spare.
Indeed FFP has become a weapon for the big teams as they raise wages and transfer fees in the market forcing the ambitious teams like us to pay out more than we should to try and compete and then of course once you make a mistake (fabio, guedes etc etc ) or overstretch yourself and run into FFP issues they come a calling and kindly offer to take your best players off of you for fees you can't turn down but they can afford easily!
They get stronger you get weaker and so they earn even more money and you earn less!
That is why your CEO is the most important man at the club
You have to build those non football revenues and you can't make mistakes in the transfer market.
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28 Dec 2023 19:07:13
Having watched the game this afternoon I am going to, (hopefully not upsetting quite as many of you as last time), give my player ratings for the game!
Overall it was a far better performance and other than for a spell in the first half of the 2nd half we were well on top and quite comfortable.
Sa 6 - Again made a number of good saves but dropped a couple of crosses. If we sell him to Saudi, as is rumoured, I fear some of those fans who don't rate him at all may eventually realise how good he was and how hard it will be to replace him!
Semedo 6 - An event in the 20th minute summed up his career with Wolves perfectly. We broke and he carried the ball at pace for over 40 yards beautifully skipping past a defender in the centre circle with ease but with Cunha pulling one defender to the right and Hwang unmarked on his left he drew the last man and passed the ball 2 yards behind Hwang and the chance was lost. A top player who simply can't cope in the final 3rd? Maybe he needs help of a psychiatric kind?
Kilman 6 - A stupid foul which could have led to a red card loses him a mark from what was otherwise a strong performance. Carried the ball well and was very strong both in the air and on the ground.
Bueno (CB) 7 Best performance of what is still a very short Wolves career. Good in the air and better on the ground than previously. Wish he was a yard quicker and had a stone more of muscle as he could be a real find. At the moment though he looks adequate as a 4th option. For me however the jury is out as to if I want to cancel the new CB request in the summer
Toti 7 Effectively played LB, ( not convinced it is his best position) and was very solid .
RAN 7 So much talent and so much potential. Great feet that take him past defenders with ease. But like Semedo there is not enough end product and despite an improved attitude for me he is still not as steady as Bueno. Maybe he is is a WM rather than a WB?
Lemina 8 Another great performance and goal! But this time overshadowed by his brilliant partner. What a midfield GON has created!
Gomes 9 Sensational! He covers miles, wins the ball and uses it well!. If he continues to improve and can add a few goals to his game our midfield is well set for many years to come!
Sarabia 7 I have to admit he gets better every time I see him. So good with the ball, so creative maybe he could have a future with us after all?
Cunha 7 Deserved a goal. His link with Sarabia is getting stronger and his ability to carry the ball is a key part of our game!
Hwang 7 Making me look like a fool. Why is he brilliant in the box and so poor outside of it. Not good with back to goal or chasing the ball but in the box a magnet for the half chance and a really calm finnisher!

Subs
Bellegarde 7 Pace and power. Excellent going forwards. Maybe he is a WF not a WM?
Doyle 6 - Calm on the ball and works hard but it's going to be v difficult to impress when compared to our two superstars
Doherty 6 Initially struggled with the pace of their impressive LW But grew into the game. Solid and streetwise.
Bueno 7 Only played a few minutes but was very impressive again!

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1.) 28 Dec 2023 20:18:37
Hi,
Good summary of the individual players. Regarding Sa, I agree he will be difficult to replace. It's difficult to describe him really. On his day fantastic, but occasionally he'll have a howler. I think a few people must feel the same hence the clamour for Bentley that was until the West Ham fiasco. Difficult one!


2.) 28 Dec 2023 21:34:12
Excellent summing up tfig. Agree with all your thoughts. I personally like Sa, he gives me panic attacks but also a level of trust. If he does go, where, indeed, do we find as capable a keeper.


3.) 29 Dec 2023 19:32:55
future I pretty much agree with your ratings on the Brentford game. Perhaps one or two differences but generally about what I thought.


 

 

 

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25 Jan 2024 15:12:48
The young lad from Ipswich - Chirewa (sp) also looked completely comfortable albeit for only a few minutes at the end of the game.
Since GON brought him on one can only assume he is confident in him as well?

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23 Jan 2024 20:31:50
Note it was stated Cunha was booked for constant infringements but when he was booked I am not sure he had actually committed a single foul?
In the move pre the booking however Cunha and Gilmour came together twice.
Fistly Cunha challenged Gilmour who went down and at full speed it looked like a foul but on the replay it was clear that Cunha played the ball and in fact not only was there no contact but there was at least 12 inches of clear air between them. Gilmour went down - fell over/dived - but regardless the ref seemingly and correctly gave nothing?
A few moments/passes later Wolves having won the ball were again breaking and Cunha was attempting to get up in support. Once again Gilmour aware of the danger ran over and shoulder charged him to the ground - a clear foul. Cunha was then booked.
Unsurprisingly he was unhappy and at half time you can lip read him talking to the linesman coming off saying "he fouled me". He obviously believed he had been booked for being fouled by Gilmour who was set on ensuring Cunha could not join in the Wolves attack.
The refs statement that it was for persistent infringments and the booking itself would be laughable were it not so serious!

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21 Jan 2024 12:55:58
No need to apologise.
That wasn't what I was saying.
poorly drafted by me
No I was merely reinforcing your point and agree a good loan move could be just what he needs.
Hearing lots of good things about him but as a mid table side still battling both on the upside - maybe a chance of Europe - and the downside - a fall off in results could still see us dragged in to a relegation battle albeit highly unlikely now - we don't have the luxury of putting him in the team this year ourselves but maybe next?

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21 Jan 2024 10:19:24
Jack I commented on this in another thread.
Could it be the sweetener to get them to take Guedes?

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18 Jan 2024 18:58:59
Now read that suggested price is £50m - unless that is highly conditional i.e. say £10m down with rest paid over the next few years dependent on various things - performances, our league status etc etc it would be a no for me.
Too much risk that he never returns to the levels we would require

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29 Jan 2024 17:07:07
On "teams and matches" which very few people read?
Hence only Ken, who I told about the post, has replied?
Why not post on the main thread i.e. this page?
Don't want to be awkward but surely the whole idea of the site is to engender debate, which, as shown by the paucity of replies, is hard if you don't put posts on the main pages?

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28 Jan 2024 10:20:44
Jas I may well be wrong but wasn''t he also £4m whilst Clarke was avaiable for under £1m?
We probably either didn't have the money or since both were playing v well in a partnership for Coventry misguidely thought that both were equally good?
Bournemouth, who were 1 league below us but for obvious reasons then spent much of the ensuing time above us, took the gamble and the rest is history.
For what its worth I probably would take the undoubted risk now.
He has been injured a lot over the past couple of years but has still scored lots and lots of goals. When he plays he is superb!
For £18m, even if he only plays half a season, he would be a bargain
However 32 and high wages are also red flags so totally understand others views including the v sensible one re squad fit.

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26 Jan 2024 22:29:23
pps My appraisal is completlely worthless so no problem there, however you need to talk to GON as he clearly disagrees with yours.

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26 Jan 2024 22:26:02
PS After posting I thought I would check your statement about Bayern as it seemed that you must have a point if it was true.
However all I could find was that in the summer 2022 ie nearly 2 years ago and before his (last?) major injury they were "linked" but did not sign him.
In fact we did, for "only" £15m so either we got a real bargain - we didn't - or he wasnt the superstar you hint he was then?
If Bayern are currently interested apologies but I can't find any reference to this at the moment?

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26 Jan 2024 22:17:39
I have watched him - as far more importantly has GON - and so am not unhappy at him leaving the club.
Have you watched him - what quality (ies) did you see in him that makes you want to keep him?

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