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06 Jan 2022 18:22:28
This Doherty/Traore thing seems to be gathering momentum. Can`t see the sense in it. Do we really need the Doc back? Is Semedo on his way just as he is establishing himself as a very good signing?

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06 Jan 2022 19:47:10
No way should Docherty come back, he wanted to go and failed miserably his time has gone.

06 Jan 2022 21:02:25
Hope the powers that be agree with you Mike!

07 Jan 2022 00:24:36
Athletico supposedly want Semedo to replace Trippier so that may be why we're looking at Doherty (or journos think we are looking at Doherty)

07 Jan 2022 10:53:29
Putting Doherty to one side for a moment, would Semedo leaving be a good move and at what price? Is Hoever ready to step up? If the answer to these questions is yes and we can get the majority of the transfer fee back I might be inclined to go with it. As other posters have said why sign young players and not give them a chance. The downside however is do we have sufficient injury cover?

07 Jan 2022 12:22:09
Arddunby - the majority of the fee?
Given he has improved significantly defensively and is no worse offensively than when he first played for us either you believe we hugely over paid for him or you are happy for the club to be selling him cheap?
Neither says that you think management have/are going to cover (ed) themselves in glory.
Surely as a player who is clealry better than he was when he arrived 2 seasons ago his fee, if we were selling, should have gone up not down?

07 Jan 2022 13:06:38
Future, I suspect fees will be down across the market for the next few windows, did we overpay? that's a matter of opinion, maybe the market will decide that.

07 Jan 2022 13:40:32
Arddunby -V sorry. I was merely stirring. I actually am on record as saying we over paid for him and although he has improved (markedly) I agree we still wouldn't get our money back - that is how much we over paid!
All that being said I still wouldn't sell him as our recent record in the transfer market, (Sa and maybe Marcal excluded), indicates we would almost certainly merely double down on the error and end up buying a far worse player for not much less than we sold Seemdo for.
Not a Jeff fan!
Not as certain as you however that fees at the top level (where Wolves play!) will be down, although of course covid must have had some impact. Not as much as people think though as the vast majority of the money in the top end of the game comes via TV and commercial activities, (not impacted greatly by Covid) not gate money (which of course was decimated for a period by the virus). I accept this isn't true outside the top end of the game particulalrly if you are a lower league team but they don't exactly drive the transfer market.
If prices are down though then we def should be buyers not sellers - see Warren Buffet's first rule of investment!

07 Jan 2022 14:13:27
So the latest rumour is that Atletico are readying a £50m bid for Semedo. Would you sell him for that price and buy Doherty back?

07 Jan 2022 15:07:31
Future. I think we overpaid, and we were buying from a club with serious financial issues also, but I wouldn't like to try to put a valuation on the player, its always easier said online than a real negotiation. Yes we should be buying if prices are down, and you sure have a point about spending money wisely. Not much point if you waste it, better to find an alternative investment. Regards the fees last window I think City overpaid for Grealish and that is probably the current going rate. I also have doubts Spurs will get much more than that for Kane if he leaves.
Judging by the transfer news it seems clubs are interested in loans and swap deals more than usual at the moment.

07 Jan 2022 15:40:13
Jas v good q!
Not sure though that i'd link the two
As I have stated elsewhere on here I'd only take Doherty back on a free/loan and then only for modest wages - i.e. he would have to take a big pay cut or Spurs pay a chunk of them for the rest of his contract.
Although I loved him - unlike many - he is two years on from his glory days and it is a big ask to expect him to come back.
However if the risk was low enough i.e. low wages and no fee then maybe you take a gamble that he, (with Lage's help/coaching), can return to his former self?
Actually I think both issues - gambling on a Doherty return and/or selling Semedo may be linked to Otto's situation.
If he is fit and we are comfortable he will come back to his best, (best defender of all the FBs/WBs discussed here and ok going forward - not as good as Doherty was or Semedo and RAN hint, (but sadly, for various reasons dicussed regularly on here previously, rarely deliver) they might be), then he could be first choice at RWB. Given we have Hoever as cover and have RAN/Marcal on the left we would be better than adequately covered for FBs, WBs.
If money is tight, in reality only Jeff knows the answer to that, then £50m is an awful lot to turn down when we have pressing needs elsewhere that £50m would really help fill. Originally I thought our biggest needs were an ACM and a back up CB sadly now however I believe a new CF to cover/replace/help Jimenez (who it seems needs longer to get back than we had intially hoped) is a further and possibly even more pressing priority. {Of course the longer than expected return time may as discussed on here only recently with respect to Netto may apply to Otto as well!}
Further point worth noting that a Semedo sale would reduce our wage bill markedly - he is a top earner - and give us a huge uplift in our FFP situation as a £50m sale would represent a large profit on his ammortised value!
Net net if we could get £50m then yes I think I would sell and if we could get Doherty on my terms then again i'd love to take the gamble - sadly though I don't see either happening.
What would you do Jas?
Anyone else?

07 Jan 2022 16:47:38
At £50mil I would sell Semedo but want Doc on a free. Bruno might get Doc back to his best for a couple of years. There's no doubt that Bruno has improved Coady, for example, so there would be hope for Doc.

07 Jan 2022 16:58:45
I am if on totally honest not overly worried about Jimenez. His work rate is as good and he's not exactly been overwhelmed by a massive number of chances either taken or missed tbh.

Personally I would give him more time. I know it was a massive injury but was a top quality striker and I still think he can get back to top form. My opinion and hope!

10 Jan 2022 16:40:51
Good debate gents (as always). For me I would go with option c, I mean why does selling Semedo have to equal Docs return?! Personally I'd sell Semedo for £50m on the simple basis we'd never get such an offer for him again (nb in fact I suspect the whole things academic as if honest I can't see anyone offering that for him:)! Whatever us fans might think the whole reason we did what we did with Nelson and Docs was to improve our quality at RB so I'd stick to that programme. Take Athelticos hand off at £50m then take £20-30m and offer it for another quality young RB (Lamptey or Jayden Bogle spring to mind) ?

05 Jan 2022 21:35:29
MGW is not back, also Atletico rumoured to be keen on Semedo to replace Trippier! Fabio to start on Sunday? FWAW.

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05 Jan 2022 23:32:58
MGW confusion has been caused because he is back at Compton for treatment for his current injury not because of any recall. Seemingly people added 2+2 and came up with any result that suited whatever story they wished!

05 Jan 2022 18:05:50
My worry is that Fosun may be linked with Evergrande (Chinese co.in deep trouble) Hence lack of spending.

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05 Jan 2022 18:56:36
Reading a few news reports Fosun were a conglomerate listed as a possible risk along with Evergrande and others by the Chinese government due to debt fuelled acquisitions but I couldn't find any evidence of the two being linked.

05 Jan 2022 19:38:22
I think the reality is Ludlow (neighbour?) that Evergrande are probably too big for the Chinese government to allow to fail. The consequences would be dire, but interestingly, it was the curbs introduced by the Chinese government in an attempt to reign in the borrowing of companies like Evergrande that brought this to a head. Their business model is in reality, unsustainable, as it only works by borrowing and then more borrowing to meet the obligations of their earlier borrowing and so on.
I don't think Fosun operate quite in that way, but irrespective of that, Wolves will be a separate cost centre tasked with profitable operation and not simply a rich mans plaything.

05 Jan 2022 10:36:59
Wolves have signed 26 year old Japanese midfielder Hayao Kawabe from Grasshoppers. 18 appearances for the Swiss side scoring 4 and 3 assists from an attacking midfield role. They must rate him.

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05 Jan 2022 11:11:35
They have also brought our loanee Toti Gomes over from Grasshoppers where he's been since we signed him 18 months back. Left sided centre back/wing back he's been doing very well. A chance for Bruno to have a look. Don't forget we also have Bola the Hungarian international who plays on the right on loan there as well. Again makes you wonder why any interest in Doc.

05 Jan 2022 12:33:29
Both will be returning to Grasshoppers on loan for the rest of this season.

05 Jan 2022 13:11:06
I (probably like most have not heard of Hayao Kawabe) so I went for the lowest hanging fruit and had a look on YouTube. Now I always treat YouTube highlights with caution as it can make a very bad player look good (with the exception of Rajiv van La Parra) and Kawabe looks decent.

I say all this with an air of caution.

05 Jan 2022 13:15:29
Jas yes I know, sorry should have added that. It's logical it's the Swiss break and gives Bruno a chance to evaluate them in first team training. Hopefully he'll see good things from them.

05 Jan 2022 14:16:50
Both are typical fosun business young and hungry but not ready for the big time yet but we really don't need much some cover at the back everywhere else we are pretty much covered if all the injured players do in deed come back and hit the ground running soon as neto is ready we will see more goals I really think that will help Raul out so much its so easy for teams to just put 2 cb on him but neto back teams will have to come up with something different

05 Jan 2022 14:21:05
Apparently, they bought the deal for Kawabe forward to this month as he is currently eligible to sign/play in the UK, whereas, potential future rule changes may have prevented it.
Sounds like the smart thing to do then, as Jas/Ken have said, leave him in Switzerland for the rest of the season, as he has been an important player for them.

04 Jan 2022 11:53:04
According to Football Insider Wolves are in talks with Spurs to bring Doherty back to Molineux. Maybe in swap plus cash deal with Traore.any thought guys?

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04 Jan 2022 12:11:10
I like Doherty but he is our past now

04 Jan 2022 12:13:05
Bruno did say he was looking for a WB, what I'm wondering is (if true) where it would leave Ki-Jana Hoever?

04 Jan 2022 12:18:11
I think that would be poor business to be honest. We NEED Traore (as the break through in yesterdays game proved) if we can't keep him then we at very least need a decent fee to replace him with. Docs is decent but with Jonny returning soon where does he play exactly?! Is Semedo going as well cause that's the only way I see this making sense?!

04 Jan 2022 12:53:17
Only at half price or less, straight cash deal, Matt is 30ish and Wing back is a physically demanding role. If Adama leaves I would like to see a straight cash deal with add ons, if we have to let him go on the cheap, not that I think he has much more to be developed but that's just a personal opinion.

04 Jan 2022 13:12:26
Bullys I have seen Semedo linked with Athletico Madrid as a potential replacement for Kieran Trippier.
I still wouldn’t go for Doherty and don’t see why Johnny can’t be deployed on the right with Hoever as decent cover.

04 Jan 2022 13:26:17
Regarding Doc, nice bloke did a good job for us but the old saying "never go back" is said for a reason! Don't see the sense of it, agree with BB on this.

04 Jan 2022 14:02:57
I'd take Doc on a free. His wages are probably a lot higher at Spurs, which would rule out a transfer fee in my opinion. If we sell Traore to Spurs, £20mil is far, far too little. Look what a difference he made last night, with the cross that led to the goal. Hopefully a bidding war will develop between Spurs, Hammers and Liverpool, and maybe Real Madrid for good measure. If any coach can get the best out of Traore, they will have a bargain on their hands.

04 Jan 2022 15:00:27
Loved doc but he didn't need any pushing to leave did he and I agree in the saying never go back as imo Ronaldo has done more harm than good at utd. Dressing room has gone tits up with player's possibly ot happy with his return

04 Jan 2022 15:06:03
I am/was a massive Doherty fan but agree with Deep, (and the majority of other posters above), that, even if he takes a fairly chunky cut in his wages, we should only be interested if he is on a free.
At Spurs he is miles away from regular football as his game has fallen off a cliff but is costing them big time in wages. Consequently they are not in a strong position to demand a fee and we are hardly desperate for him back - (we would surely only take him back if we think we can get him back to where he was before he left us but that is a big if and given his age I am far from certain a gamble I would want to place much money on!) - as Semedo is a perfectly competent RWB and Hoever is probably an acceptable back up. Yes not a glowing reference for two players who cost us over £40m but that is the past as sadly Doherty might well be as well.
Therefore Jeff if you are negotiating with Levy, ( heaven help us),don't be a wimp and give them what they want do what is right for us - play hard ball with Spurs and Doherty!

04 Jan 2022 15:11:14
I think that ship has sailed with Doc we have semedo and Hoever cover and if I'm right Jonny is naturally a RWB playing on the left with have ait Nouri and marcal on the left so Doc would be at least 3rd in the pecking order doesn't make any sense
We need cover for the CB position and attacking midfielder and maybe another striker Silva looked good coming on last 10mins yesterday he needs a good chance start him in the Cup give Raùl a rest.

04 Jan 2022 15:52:23
Doc has done nothing at Spurs, he will not be an improvement for our squad. In his last 6 months with us he was a shadow of what he was. Levy is looking for a mug to take on his problem.

04 Jan 2022 16:13:23
I was like most a big Doc fan, but that time has gone and we have moved on, I would prefer to keep Adama, as he showed last night he scares the opposition and they end up putting 2 or more defenders on him leaving space for others or fouling him in positions giving us good dead ball opportunities. if Doc returns he will be a squad player and I cannot see him wanting that.

04 Jan 2022 18:48:19
NES-Saddly that's the only thing that would make sense of it for me, as I could definitely see Nelson wanting to head back to La Liga to play for titles again! I hope it's not the case cause it would be awful transfer managment on our part to wait till Semedo FINALLY becomes useful and then sell him to be replaced by an inferior and more to the point older Doherty! I hope that's not the case cause I actually think our defense is one quality (young) CB short of being excellent under Bruno!

04 Jan 2022 20:01:32
BB - could it be Sanderson? Every time I have seen him - albeit only a few times and always on the TV and in a lower league for either Cardiff or Sunderland - he has been superb

04 Jan 2022 22:00:16
14 goals in 14 games suggests it already is excellent,BB. To be breached only twice in three games ( including a dodgy penalty) against three of the top five sides in Europe ( that's Man C, Liverpool and Chelsea by the way) says it all.

04 Jan 2022 22:21:10
Old Wulf there is absolutely no doubt that you are correct - the figures simply don't lie!.
However Saiss is 31 and Boly (30) may sadly be done so a new young CB, be it Yerson, Sanderson or A.N Other is probably essential for it to remain so and in reality - given Boly is maybe done already and Yerson is currently injured and totally unproven - is possibly needed now to provide cover and depth (Saiss is off for a few weeks now for example)?

04 Jan 2022 22:56:29
I actually agree Old however what it lacks is depth (hence I said a young player) which I think we are about to find out as Saiss is going to be a HUGE miss these next 6 weeks! Credit to Romain as I never thought I'd say that but he has REALLY improved with age! Also with this isn't that another contract which also needs looking at (Saiss)?
And agreed TFG, let's hope that Sanderson can step up to that role. I've only seen in play in a cup game if honest but as I keep saying Lage has built a career on developing young players, pretty sure that's mostly what got him the job! In Bruno we trust ??

04 Jan 2022 23:16:38
For those who actually go to the games, what happens when traore gets the ball and goes on a run, he gets the fans out their seats and screaming, pure excitement, can't see what other player has that same effect

05 Jan 2022 11:27:57
Demon back in the 80's and 90's we had a number of players that used to get you out of your seat screaming but it wasn't for the same reason! Sadly. If Traore goes I for one will miss him!

03 Jan 2022 13:59:13
Wolves recall Ryan Giles from Cardiff City loan.

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03 Jan 2022 15:56:06
Really pleased to see the recall of Giles and Sanderson, to me it hails a change of direction in keeping with the youthful signings made in recent years. The thing missing was giving the youngsters opportunity rather than spending millions on risky signings that fail to perform, an NES attribute. Well done Bruno give them a chance, but do sign Sanchez.

03 Jan 2022 16:58:02
I echo your your post bayleaf, glad we are recalling some of our loan players. Looking forward to seeing Sanderson play

03 Jan 2022 17:03:19
I’m thinking @Mikebayleaf that maybe by not spending big on certain positions, it free up money for a forward or AMF.

03 Jan 2022 20:01:34
Yes Debbie - Sanches Duuurh

04 Jan 2022 09:04:52
Happy New Year to all.
Cracking result last night against an all-star team. Their bench alone probably cost more that our whole squad.
Great news about Giles and Sanderson. If Lage can do to them what he's done with Kilman, the future is very, very bright. But, we still need 2/3 new signings. With Jimenez struggling, a striker is the most pressing need. Young Silva did well when he came on late, so I think Lage has him on the right track. I think Silva was feeling sorry for himself recently, but he looked a handful last night. We still need a new striker though. I can see Silva being groomed as a number 10.

04 Jan 2022 09:39:42
I think you've hit the nail on the head Deep Silva is imo more of an inside forward or attacking midfielder than out and out number 9.

04 Jan 2022 16:11:51
Attacking midfielder? We must be watching different players.

02 Jan 2022 23:39:19
Dion Sanderson recalled by Wolves.

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03 Jan 2022 06:41:02
Interesting Jas, (thinking aloud) does this mean Wolves won’t be dipping into the transfer market for a defender, makes sense given Yerson Mosquera is due to return to training next month?

If this is the case I hope Sanderson takes his chance, he seemed adept in League One and The Championship. Bowyer and Clarke had a lot of good comments about DS.

03 Jan 2022 14:14:28
I'm looking forward to seeing him play for us thinking a good chance we will see Dion in the fa Cup agaisnt Sheffield United.
Made me happy reading this nice 1 guys.

03 Jan 2022 14:17:29
I just saw Ryan Giles recalled too.
Another I'm looking forward to seeing play gor us.
Feeling happier in than was a minute or 2 ago.
3 points today oh YEAH COYW

03 Jan 2022 14:39:03
I think you're probably correct Phil these guys are championship regulars at the moment so Sheff Utd would be an ideal chance for them I would think.

03 Jan 2022 22:45:22
No sign of MGW returning - could it mean another attacking midfielder is coming in?

04 Jan 2022 09:41:13
North I doubt MGW would be recalled for a cup tie against his loan club.

05 Jan 2022 10:02:47
I think MGW is injured and doing rehab at Compton

02 Jan 2022 22:39:41
Randal Kolo Muani loan with obligation to buy only 6months on contract so low fee . Not done but discussion s ongoing . Wolves want now

{Ed002's Note - So Wolves plan on buying an out of contract player?

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03 Jan 2022 02:03:09
If you're going to troll Tinkerman make sure the player isn't out of contract first lol.

03 Jan 2022 06:54:57
Hahahahaha - silly season is upon us. Excellent detective work Ed002 and Rated.

03 Jan 2022 13:46:39
I believe we can recall Sanderson at the start of the window and if sign a player during it return him to Birmingham City?

03 Jan 2022 12:14:21
The signing is for now . He can sign for any team for next season but wolves wish to buy now for low fee . As I said above .

{Ed002's Note - You said it was a 6 month loan and then an obligation to buy after his contract runs out. That is not a good deal. At least the clubs already talking with him are focussing on the issue that needs to be resolved.}

03 Jan 2022 15:23:47
Whilst the player is free to discuss and agree a free move at end of the season. Wolves would in effect be paying a small fee for his services from January . Giving Nantes a small fee from a player they will receive nothing for at end of season .

This is what I have just been told

02 Jan 2022 20:47:11
Oje Ramor on twiitter saying we're close to signing 20 year old defender Goncalo Inacio from Sporting CP. Ramor is a freelance journo, also saying Trippier to Newcastle is a done deal. Make of it what you will.

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02 Jan 2022 22:18:41
He's the right age, plays in a position we are looking to fill central defence, Portugese played for Portugal at U21 so would fit the bill for a Wolves signing.

02 Jan 2022 23:26:39
Haha. This is the same player I recommended to Rated to buy in FM. I've had him for two seasons and he's a left footed CB and a wonderkid, absolute class! Mind you on that game Adama signs contracts and scores 10 goals a season so it's far from realistic! ?

03 Jan 2022 02:04:38
Yeah he's quality on FM22 BB mate sits in my back 4 nicely alongside Coady.

02 Jan 2022 08:42:57
Reading between the lines on a tweet from Fabrizio Romano this morning based on comments from Lage seems to indicate that although Neves loves WW and sees the place as a second home, he’ll need to convince him that we’re going to be competitive enough to win competitions very soon, for Neves to stay.

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02 Jan 2022 14:55:19
I'd suggest that neves will need to up his game considerably before he can start making demands

 


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