Wolves banter 4

18 Jan 2026 19:02:24
Decent result today the ref was very poor though.
City next and they're on a bit of a wobble.

18 Jan 2026 18:03:16
Decent performance today, thought we could have won it.
RE please get in someone who can take a dead ball kick, either free kick or comers. We’ve been pretty poor in that area.

18 Jan 2026 16:28:01
Thought we were ok today, if we had started season in this way would not be in any trouble.
They kept Mane quiet, overall teams cancelled each other out.
Personally would have liked to have seen R.

Gomes a little earlier and concern is, if Mane doesn’t create and/or score, not sure who else will, maybe harsh but seems the case at the moment.
Joao, Andre and H. Bueno I thought were good today.

18 Jan 2026 17:28:24
I thought jackson had a fair game, and mosquiro can't be faulted for his effort.
Under instruction or not, Andre and gomes held on to the ball longer than they needed at times I thought and we had opportunity to get forward wasted.


Tolu also worked well holding things up and being a nuisance.
In total I think the lads did well, Sa abit questionable at times, but then as I mentioned at HT it could have been the wet ball he was worried over.
Oh well a points a point.

18 Jan 2026 18:08:05
Steady game today, the 2 sides fairly even matched, effort an intensity without the ball
Was 100%, a game lost points wise to close the gap, but a point better than none all the same. Gomez wasn’t happy coming off and to be fair to him he put it about, but he did give the ball away a fair bit in our half of pitch, but his endless running amd aggression was top notch, I’d have taken Whang off first for Larson.

Maybe Chachua for Rodrigo . Another performance in the right direct and a clean sheet, onward and upwards.

18 Jan 2026 18:23:07
What you all on about!?
It was clearly because Newcastle played really badly!
What else could it have been? 😉🐺UTW

18 Jan 2026 19:59:29
Very much a too defensive display we need to be more attacking sorry to be negative but I think RE needs to be more positive in his approach if he's going to play like that in the championship it will be a long time before we get back

18 Jan 2026 14:19:26
See Don Goodman on commentary still doesn’t like us. Would have thought having played for us he would be biased towards us, seems the opposite.

18 Jan 2026 14:54:32
Can't say I've paid a lot of attention Banksy, I just wish we'd get going abit quicker and get up the field.
Dunno what Sa's thinking at times, maybe the wet ball is a problem.?
Interesting jackson and Hugo at swapped at the end of the first and Hugo so close to putting us ahead.


Hopefully we might be more adventurous in the second half and get Mane free.

18 Jan 2026 15:34:09
He never has a good word about any club he played for.

18 Jan 2026 16:18:40
He praised everything newcastle did.
Not many good words for us tbh
He can do one as far as i'm concerned
Insignificant commentator

18 Jan 2026 16:24:30
Good effort from the lads well organised and normally be happy with a point but could have done with a win today. They are good side though and even weakened by injuries they can still bring on Wissa, Elanga and Miley. Just needed that bit of luck or creativity to nick a goal. To end on a positive note still unbeaten in 2026 COYW

18 Jan 2026 18:29:00
Don Goodman likes to talk the talk but I remember how frustrating it was to watch him waste and miss so many chances back in the day. Reminded me of the ‘Standard’ fireworks you could get in the 70s and 80s - such a let down. He’s always been just standard! 😂

18 Jan 2026 10:50:09
I would be happy to keep Joao at least until the summer. Difficult on the price for Agbadou I think, when we first signed him he looked excellent, the start of this season he was awful. In saying this, we should, in my opinion, get back what we paid for him.

18 Jan 2026 11:42:57
Our transfer business, especially sales, has routinely under-valued our assets, I would contend. Most confusing is Myeupiyou. What actually happened there? I think we paid £5 million and sold him/ loaned him/ gave him away. Pretty much an ever present for Alverca, first year back in Portuguese top flight and after a shaky start to the season, are now comfortably mid-table.

18 Jan 2026 13:47:26
I think he was a Gary O'Neil signing who Vitor decided wasn't good enough.

17 Jan 2026 23:59:53
Like I said no point in selling larssen if it happens in the final week, if he was being sold he should have gone last week.

18 Jan 2026 08:55:43
Agree with you demon, unfortunately they will more than likely sell him at end of window with no replacement. That has been our history recently, we will see if new Shi is any different.

18 Jan 2026 09:01:06
Final week demon? That’s optimistic considering how badly fosun have ran the club the last 4 years I would put money on him going in the final hours

17 Jan 2026 23:58:37
Would anyone agree we should put out an unchanged team on Sunday in the hope they are learning how to interact with one another under the new coaches. I do see areas where we still need work i.e. how quickly our defence can be turned but we are getting better! If players wish to leave the club so be it just so long as their value is met and the club works to fill the gaps I appreciate it looks as though nothing is happening but that has been the way the club has been run for some time keep the faith

18 Jan 2026 13:20:14
Agree

18 Jan 2026 00:11:24
Forget all the B/S that's occurring at the moment and hope whatever team we put out today can invoke the spirit of new years day 1990 and stuff Newcastle come on me babbies

17 Jan 2026 21:41:08
I have read various people, including I think Jeff, saying at least Wolves are better off than when Fosun took over.
Lets look at the facts
In the summer of 2016 when Fosun bought the club Wolves had just lost a negligible amount, circa £2m, pre player sales in the year 2015/16.
On the same basis in 2023/4, the last set of accounts available, it was £75m.
The loss in 2016 was about 7% of the turnover now it is roughly 42%
In 2016 Wolves had zero net debt - including debt to banks, other clubs and its owners.

In fact it was owed money!
Now it has a net debt of over £300m!
In 2016 the club was going nowhere fast and was a boring stable Championship side.
In 2026/7 it is quite possible that this will be beyond the reach of the club!
Is that really better?

18 Jan 2026 09:04:37
Exactly future, it gets on my nerves all this “ fosun have given us the best times” malarkey, they are also giving us right now the worst times. I was only 6 when the bhattis were around so don’t really remember that much but I’m certainly experiencing this now under fosun, just because they were great at first shouldn’t mean the have a pass with what’s going on now.

18 Jan 2026 10:33:37
Fosun have given us some of the best times. Who can forget us romping to promotion or the two 7th place finishes, the European adventure or the FA Cup run?

None of this looked possible under Steve Morgan when we were relegated to League 1.

The times are clearly not so good now and Fosun have clearly lost interest but if anyone says that Fosun have not given the fans the best time in recent history is simply lying to themselves. Or maybe they sincerely believe mid table Championship and League 1 is better than Premier League.

18 Jan 2026 11:43:31
GWIL I think The Futures point is that while we did have the best time in our recent history under Fosun the cost could be that we may not have a club to support at all if the mis-management continues into the next couple of seasons.
Future is asking if a couple of seasons as best of the rest is worth losing the club for.

18 Jan 2026 12:19:25
Good - undeniable that Fosun was excellent for 4 years up to Seville - as I said in a post on "rumours" only yesterday.
But it is not true to say that currently or in all likelihood at any time soon they will have put the club in a better place than it was when they took over from Morgan.
He never got the club to the heights Fosun did but never took them financially or quite probably in table terms as anywhere near as low as Wolves are now and are on track to achieve.


As First says it is quite possible that the club could go into admin and thus unlike under Morgan could well end up in Div 1 or worse.
£300m+ of debt is totally unsustainable outside pf the Prem and player sales will make very little debt in that whilst obviously if you can't operate in a cash positive fashion in the Prem what chance have you when turnover falls by £100m+ in the Championship?

18 Jan 2026 12:24:15
Your missing the point good, I say that fosun have given us good times no one is denying that, but just because of that they should be given leeway for the mismanagement now? No they shouldn’t, yes we were going nowhere under Morgan and moxey I agree but we also weren’t in absolutely horrendous debt which we now are, fosun have zero interest in the club hence why they have not invested in infrastructure, we will go down and still have obligations debt wise so you tell me where that money is coming from? Because it won’t be fosun that’s a sure fire fact.

I genuinely fear for the future of the club, Chinese ownership nearly bankrupted reading, Birmingham, Albion even the mighty ac Milan were in the doo doo, what makes us so different? But hey Ho don’t worry we got into Europe under them so maybe all the companies/clubs we owe money to will take that into account and write off what we owe them!

18 Jan 2026 13:19:04
I don't think the finances are as bad as people think. Yes, financially we are not in a good place but we do not have as much debt as some of the other Premier League clubs.

Jeff Shi has 100% mismanaged the club and his incompetence will cost us dear. Hopefully Guo and co have taken note and Nathan Shi can in the short term steady the ship before a proper football person comes in and drives us forward.

18 Jan 2026 13:22:54
Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton and Palace as well as the Big 6 all have higher debts than Wolves. The difference is that they all have people who in place to ensure the football side of things is still ticking over whereas we had Jeff Shi who let everything collapse.

18 Jan 2026 13:58:01
Good - first Wolves won't be a Prem league team next year and in the Champ average debt is under £70m and Wolves have over £300m.
However second I do accept that some sides will have bigger debts.
I would have assumed that was because they were much bigger teams so I was surprised at your list.
However having checked the obvious one - Brighton deemed by everyone to be a v well run club I'im not sure about your figures.


Wolves have over £300m of debt Brighton just over £200m.
Equally relevant over the last 2 years Brighton lost under £50m across the period Wolves lost £182m!
Adding Wolves much vaunted player trading profits Wolves made roughly £108m over the last 2 years. Brighton made £232m.
So relative to Brighton at least yes Wolves are in a real hole financially

18 Jan 2026 15:30:46
I just took the figures that were published by the BBC. I don't know the ins and outs of football finance.

18 Jan 2026 16:51:30
Good the problem is your saying we don’t have as much debt as other premier league clubs and that’s correct but we won’t be a premier league club next season so we will have one of if not the highest debt outside the premier league

18 Jan 2026 17:14:38
De Wolf was God. As I said. I just took the figures from the BBC. I'm no finance expert so I can't say how much debt the club will have. I do expect there to be some savings as usually when a club gets relegated, the operating costs reduce and staff are let go. Add to that, the more saleable players are sold.

18 Jan 2026 19:49:56
Well if you remember our esteemed ex chairman said that no staff member would lose their jobs due to relegation, another lie of his, so you have to ask where’s the instructions coming from? I find it difficult to believe that Jeff was given carte Blanche to just do and say what he wanted, and I personally wouldn’t believe a thing that I read on any bbc article. It’s a fact an absolute undeniable fact that we are in debt to the tune of 300 million pounds, no amount of staff redundancies ( which apparently won’t happen 🤦‍♂️) or player sales are going to come close to reducing that, if you figure Gomes, Andre, circa 70 million.

Jsl maybe 40 now where do you see the other 190 million being raised? And the efl are a lot quicker to punish clubs who fall into admin or can’t pay their debts.

18 Jan 2026 20:58:40
I honestly don't know why you're having a go at me for. I didn't print the figures. I don't know if they're true or not. I know the figures that were submitted to Companies House last year but other than that, I don't know the inner workings at the club.

I have no idea where any of the money has gone or will come from. I'm just using the figures that are publicly printed. There are posters on here who have a better understanding of finances than me who could assist.

17 Jan 2026 13:09:12
Sa ; Doc Santi Mosq ; Lima Jaoa Andre Hugo ; Rodrigo Strand Tolu.! got to go for it! FWAW.