Wolves banter 3

21 Oct 2025 11:14:32
My son as worked at wolves for 19 yrs
He said he was sure that savi Italian midfielder and manager was at ground
Yesterday.
So what's going on

21 Oct 2025 12:15:09
Moby-give it a rest and post something sensible

21 Oct 2025 12:22:19
Who is this a joke?

21 Oct 2025 12:23:51
Fosun have probably told Jeff to be more Savvy with his transfer dealings, he misunderstood.

21 Oct 2025 12:31:37
If there's any legs in this Filipo Savi, italian ex player doesn't appear to have any managerial experience. However Xavi ex Spain international is available with 3 years experience of coaching at Barcelona.

21 Oct 2025 14:16:23
I was only looking at that last night Arddunby, but he wasn't working with the level of players we've got was he, might be abit alien to him.

21 Oct 2025 16:44:13
Indeed yes, I imagine that he would hold out for a UCL club at this stage of his career Abbey

21 Oct 2025 11:10:41
Im travelling up for the Burnley game and hoping for a win and 3 points.
We need to support the team and get off Jeff's back.
Channy is still our biggest goal threat but if he is out injured I would start Doherty at centre forward as he has scored more goals for us in his career than anyone else in the current squad.
Maybe start Tolu up front alongside Doherty with Arias on the left as he was the best player in South America and we must thank Jeff for signing him.

21 Oct 2025 12:16:05
Goatmark2-Get off Jeff's back-seriously?

21 Oct 2025 12:31:43
Love the satire Goatmark2.
Best laugh I've had for a while.

21 Oct 2025 15:09:32
What about Johnstone in midfield? He wouldn’t have to kick it as far, or all our defence on the goal line, or 5 striker tactic just to be sure? The options are endless!

21 Oct 2025 09:39:34
Apparently it has conveniently been leaked from within the club that the compensation package for releasing Vitor and his team is pre agreed in his new contract, and isn't vastly different from the short term contract he was previously on.
This must mean that Vitor is on his final warning and Fosun are close to pulling the trigger.

Personally I'd love to see him use that as an incentive. play his formation, tactics and the players he's chosen and take 6 points from the next 2 games and turn the tide!

Johnstone

Agbadou Santi Krejci

Jackson Andre Gomes Hugo

Munetsi Arias

Tolu

21 Oct 2025 10:37:40
Fans have criticised VP's team selections, tactics and substitutions which may, of course, have merit given the times we've managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in some games and he may finish up being sacked sooner rather than later. That will be 6 Managers/Coach's in 5 years so you have to ask the question, why? The answer being of course decision making based on finance rather than football all the result of the dumbing down of the Club by the owners.

Their man at Wolves has failed miserably but is still in post. Their financial restrictions on the club has enforced the sale of our best players every Summer. Their failure to recognise that their lack of ambition and investment in the fixed assets of the club has put the club in a race to the bottom. Some say we can't compete with clubs that have invested in larger stadiums and created bigger income streams, actually highlighting Fosun's failings.

Any call for fans unity may be noble but that won't change anything, almost as pointless as my spoof Positive Thinking Crystals. Hope, prayer and wishful thinking within the fan base achieves nothing. You can't hope for success, that takes knowledge, ambition, dedication, funding and above all planning to succeed. Fosun offer none of those things to this Club and haven't for years.

What they do rely on, for appearances sake, is a cheering crowd, hoping for the best outcome, something that has been denied to them for far too long now. Wolves fans who pay their hard earned surely deserve better and if Fosun won't provide that, as Ron Moore says "why waste anymore time hoping they will", especially when they've said they won't.

Some have posted the old 'be careful what you wish for' but what's worse than our current situation locked in the re-occurring nightmare every season of a relegation struggle, it's purgatory for the fans, the players and the poor sod who has to make sense of on the pitch for 6 months, fail and then get the push.

This has gone on for way too long now so I repeat my earlier comment, if Fosun won't back the Club properly, they need to sell it.

21 Oct 2025 10:42:53
Interesting Molineuxway, is he still in Portugal, read somewhere that all coaching staff were back in Portugal not sure if true, or if that means anything.
Does Mendes get involved with replacement managers, seem to remember him being involved in the past, we need some help convincing someone to take over 🤞👍

21 Oct 2025 12:45:44
LongmyndWolf I don't pretend to understand the financial aspects of our football club but I find it hard to accept that any owner of a business would wantonly devalue it's value by stripping it's assets unless the business was planned to enter administration.

The value of a Premier league club is mostly due to it's position in that league, and therefore it seems that Fosun's self sustainability model and reluctance to invest in fixed assets and infrastructure points to their intention to sell up.

Regarding squad investment their options were invest up to the limits of PSR (I don't know how close they came), or splash the cash and pay the financial and points deduction penalty.

In fairness to them I understand their logic, why would you invest now if you're looking to offload asap and the investments will have no effect on the short term value?

It seems the situation is fans want Fosun out, Fosun want out, but there is no willing buyer on the horizon.

21 Oct 2025 12:57:36
Banksy51 good luck on that.

21 Oct 2025 14:03:53
Absolutely, Molineuxway why would you? Unless they believe the self sustainability model can work in this League, even when each seasons purchases appear to be less talented than the players you've just sold.

If they are looking to sell why would you place the Club in a position that makes it look so unattractive and minimise it's value? I believe that they believe their target of mere Premier League survival is sustainable over many years whereas in truth they are flirting with disaster, one that could cost them hundreds of millions.

I hear Jeff Shi is refusing the E&S's requests for an interview, maybe that's an indication that something is going on.

21 Oct 2025 08:55:58
Wolves v Burnley on Sky Sports F1 Sunday 14:00hrs

21 Oct 2025 07:39:37
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20 Oct 2025 20:29:37
Any body got any ideas on what tactics VP will use against Burnley. I saw he was not happy with long balls against Sunderland. Against Brighton we had 11 behind the ball but still just kicked it up the pitch. Creativity and flair seems a thing of the past.

20 Oct 2025 22:16:42
I'm no football manager but VP is a creature of habit and will start with a 442 of Johnstone, Tchatchoua, Santi, Krejci, Hugo, Arias, Andre, Gomes, Munetsi, Hwang, JSL.

We'll take the lead then he'll bring on Agbadou for Andre, Bellegarde for Hwang, Rodrigo for Arias, Moller Wolf for Hugo and Tolu for JSL.

We'll end up conceding and then try and play intricate football in our own half for 10 minutes then go gung ho in added time looking for a winner.

We that's what we've done for the last 8 league matches so I can't see that changing any time soon.

The good news is that hopefully, Fosun have used this week to talk to potential replacements who, should we fail to win on Sunday, should be sacked within minutes of the final whistle. But let's not forget that Jeff Shi operates on another planet so will more than likely offer VP a contract extension.

21 Oct 2025 00:43:11
Wandering Star we didn’t take the lead against Sunderland.

First The Points.

21 Oct 2025 06:04:08
I know. The Spurs and Brighton games were an anomaly. Take out my second paragraph and its still the same.

21 Oct 2025 09:11:40
Sorry 449 tactics are something Vp doesn't have, can't defend, can't score. It will be the usual play out from the back, get as far as the half way line, then stop and play it back. Slow and ponderous, giving teams lots of time to defend against us. Gone are the Nuno days when we broke with speed and gave teams no chance to regroup. We had top players then who were quickly sold for profit and replaced with inferior players. This policy has caught up with them, we have ended up with virtually no quality Premier ballers.

21 Oct 2025 09:32:08
If we played a 449 Ray, we could baracade the goal mouth and maybe get a point 😂😂😂

21 Oct 2025 10:39:47
Sorry Wolvo we would still give a soft goal away, it's part of Vp's tactics!

21 Oct 2025 13:14:45
lol Ray😂

21 Oct 2025 14:13:51
That have to be 944 then wolvo

21 Oct 2025 18:59:34
Nit picking!

20 Oct 2025 18:40:20
Assuming Fosun are not going anywhere, and even if they do, we still have the same issues to fix. So what does the club need right now? for me 3 things:

1. A true leader on the pitch - Conor Coady is my obvious choice;

2. A signing that makes the dressing room stand up and go, ok, this is a huge statement - Entice Ruben Neves back.

3. A new manager, tough one to find but I think there are a couple to consider - Rob Edwards and Kevin Muscat. The boxes all these tick include passion and desire and leadership and drive, all things serious lacking in the club right now, and they all understand the club and the fans.

20 Oct 2025 20:22:21
That'll be the ageing Coady who can't even get in a poor Championship team and has deteriorated from the player that wasn't good enough for us 5 seasons ago? Major surgery is obviously needed but that's cutting the jugular in my opinion.

20 Oct 2025 21:13:57
Rov Edwards and kevin muscatt we scraping the barrel that low wow how the mighty have fallen.

20 Oct 2025 22:54:35
There's a reason why our last 2 managers have been VP and GON. They were the cheap options. The club were paying Lopetegui £8m a season apparently and if they backed him, we would not be in this position now but they chose to cash in on every sellable asset we had and decided that the Cheap and cheerful options were the way forward.

20 Oct 2025 23:05:47
Slinger what planet are you on? Coady, neves, Edwards and muscat!

21 Oct 2025 09:06:02
Think I'd rather have Muscat back playing centre back.

20 Oct 2025 17:01:30
Get big ange in!

Guarantees a trophy next season and worst case scenario it's the championship.

20 Oct 2025 17:52:40
Hi Guys is it correct that I’m hearing that Vitor and assistant didn’t travel back with the team coach but got a flight from Newcastle to Portugal?
If yes why? That doesn’t look good. But to be fair I know he had a good ratio last season buts that’s all gone now Forrest have acted quickly to try and keep the premier league status we should do the same really but who is out there good enough to turn it around and willing to come

20 Oct 2025 17:57:52
Looking at his form at Spurs then Forest he'd also be a sure fire way of guaranteeing relegation! To be honest if we are going down the desperate route I'd sooner go for Dyche, least he knows how to win points ugly and stay in the league!

20 Oct 2025 18:10:57
Do you think Jeff is making enquiries?

20 Oct 2025 16:52:14
Me like every other loyal wolves fan only want to see wolves stay up.
I would love to see a someone buy wolves and really finance it .
Like I said bring back the glory days.
But we have to be realistic.

20 Oct 2025 13:58:59
Think really hard about what you wish for Then like me remember back to when wolves
Where bankrupt.
If like you say get rid of fosun
Think about who if anybody is going to invest
In wolves.
When wolves where struggling financially what happened.
We all prayed that wolves would survive
All us older fans can remember the glory days
Stamping your feet on the northbank wooden steps

20 Oct 2025 15:24:54
The most overused and tired phrase in football.'Be careful what you wish for'

How about another season in Europe?
A Wembley final?
One trophy?

How about positive attacking football, some goals would be nice.
Something exciting for future generations to be proud Wolves fans, instead of taking the easy option and opting for the usual suspects in London, Manchester or Merseyside?

20 Oct 2025 15:41:28
But since those days, the 3 different owners have all got us into the Premier League. Hopefully, any new owner is prepared to invest in the club and restructure the leadership team. Either that or Jeff Shi is shown the door and a cut throat, no nonsense CEO installed by Fosun.

20 Oct 2025 15:51:03
Moby - you are assuming that 1) Fosun is investing in Wolves and 2) that a new owner couldn't run the club significantly better financially so that it could stand on its own feet without the need for significant investment.
ps In case you are in any doubt not only are Fosun not investing but it is quite possible that Jeff, as I say below either due to his gross incompetence or because he is following an alternative strategy, is in fact the reason for Wolves demise both on the pitch and financially.
The bankruptcy you and I remember is exactly what I don't want to happen again which is why it is imperative that Jeff and Fosun reexamine their ownership strategy this winter otherwise next summer may well see a return to the nightmare you recall!

20 Oct 2025 16:28:57
I have thought about this Moby and yes I want Fosun and Jeff Shi gone. No one is going to spend millions on a Premier League club with a plan to run it into the ground, oh hang on.

20 Oct 2025 16:34:47
Agree QS, especially the attacking football comment.
As Brian Clough once said (I think to answer why Forest had let a few goals in) “we only need to score one more goal than the opposition”.
Simple but true 😂

20 Oct 2025 16:47:28
Was wondering if wolves fire vp who would you like to be manager I think he’s only got the Burnley game to save him

20 Oct 2025 17:42:11
Burnley's game plan will be easy. Kill the game for 30 mins and frustrate the fans. I do agree though if we don't beat Burnley VP will be sacked.