21 May 2025 07:39:11
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21 May 2025 00:26:06
My question was how would wolves fare against teams higher in the league than the ones beaten during the six game winning streak.Those teams will finish below wolves. We have taken no points in the last three games. Definitely need rebuilding next season.
21 May 2025 06:49:31
I really expected more last night.
Lindsey, agree, we need a very good summer, or on last night's performance, it will be another season like this one!
21 May 2025 07:11:42
In fairness it was city away, Brighton, who beat Liverpool the other night, and palace reserves (well almost- shame the reserve keeper didn't play), high on FA cup victory against our mixed bag in apparently roving positions, had guedes effort gone in we'd have a wonder goal to crow about and at least a point. We flattered them with the goals we gave away, but none the less next season will need some faces linhay.
21 May 2025 09:37:42
There will be no change next season and nothing will change until Shi and Fosun are gone
21 May 2025 11:09:42
Positive thoughts QS
21 May 2025 13:24:23
It's called being realistic Abbey-
21 May 2025 15:03:38
I'm just hoping that Fosun have come through their 3 year cost cutting/restructuring plan and a degree of sanity prevails. They'll never be big spenders but if they leave the money generated in the club that will be something I suppose.
I've got faith in the club but struggle with Fosun these days.
21 May 2025 20:45:55
Vitor is staying in a hotel and is going home to Portugal after the Brentford game.
21 May 2025 20:46:59
Thinking on, vitor has to know what he's dealing with, last night's team showed where we are and what we'll want. He now will know who can go and who's worth keeping, I'm sure there'll be some emotional Sundays game, and I'm expecting a strong turnout.
Back to VP knowing what's what, we'd hope he's got players in mind and money to spend, but in the reality nobody knows on here or another format. Fosun are their usual distance from us the fans, and I still fear they'll sell players and take what finances they can. That may leave little option for VP if he can't build a side to his liking.
Again Fosun owe it to all of us to be as open as they can in the intent for next season . How can they expect to sell season tickets and memberships if they don't?
21 May 2025 00:01:23
I never want to see Bentley in a Wolves shirt again, 3 of those goals Sa saves.
21 May 2025 07:05:00
Seeing him named on the sheet was enough to deflate my hopes last night Rated, then he went on to show he's not a prem keeper.
21 May 2025 07:39:05
All those who seem to have a downer on Sa should take note, Bentley is not and never has been good enough. Let's hope VP can see it now.
21 May 2025 12:35:31
Bentley wouldn’t get in a Works Side absolutely awful. Having said that neither would Guedes, Sarabia and Hwang, shambolic last night as was the team selection.which was disrespectful to travelling supporters!
20 May 2025 21:54:09
Although Bentley had let 4 in I think he had a good game. 2 deflected goal he could do nothing about, one cross across his goal, again nothing he can do about it. I'm happy for him
20 May 2025 23:49:46
He was dreadful pal.he dived too late on 2 goals and his positioning is Sunday morning.Alan Boswell wouldn't have made those clangers.
21 May 2025 07:02:46
Did you, have you, seen palaces goals rince? because I'd think you'd change your mind about Bently, he was awful.
21 May 2025 13:20:25
I think you need Specsavers Rince wolves.Regardless of weather sa stays or not Johnstone and Bentley both have to go this summer
20 May 2025 21:37:55
I don't mind the team tonight, it has bloodied a few of the fringe players and we haven't seen a world of difference between a very good palace side and what is essentially it B team. Some for promise for the future
20 May 2025 21:57:29
Crap result.stats say it all
20 May 2025 22:08:05
It was pick and mix tonight rince.
20 May 2025 23:42:56
Are you sure?
We played the Palace, (a lower mid table team) reserves and got smacked?
The fringe players?
Rodrigo was poor defensively - is he really a FB?
Djiga was not as good as "poor" and had to be removed.
Sarabia and Guedes, (neither of whom are likely to be here next season), were their usual selves, ie hopelessly inadequate.
Bentley shouldn't be playing Premier League football.
Our first 11 next season (depending on in-comings and
out-goings) might be just about good enough to stay up:
Sa, Semedo, Yerson, Emmanuel, Toti, RAN, Gomes J, Andre, Bellegarde, JSL and Munetsi but there is very very little behind them.
Even this will require JSL to massively step up because I don't see a lot of goals from Munetsi or Bellegarde and outside of Gomes J and RAN, (who along with Semedo might well not be here), no one else is likely to get more than the odd goal or two.
It is yet another huge summer for us and has to be better than the last few!
We need at least
a) 1 new GK capable of playing in the Prem
b) If Semedo is allowed to leave, (insanity!), a new first choice RWB as Lima is seemingly behind Gomes, who, (although normally looking a good player especially going forwards) is clearly not yet ready to be a first choice RWB! { same comment on RAN although Bueno H might be adequate - no more though -albeit a major downgrade going forwards)
c) At least 2 new CBs. At the moment we only have 3 who should be playing Premier league football - 1 of whom is currently recovering from another long term injury plus 2 not good enough Djiga - although early days - and Bueno and one now too old and not a cb anyway in Doherty?
d) At least 1 new CM as Doyle not good enough and Traore v v limited as a back up
e) Plus 2 or more new forward players at least one of whom has to be top half of the Prem quality from day 1!
In reality that is probably only 2 (or more if Semedo and/or RAN leave) first 11 players and a number of back ups but those 2 have to be top top quality players.
Finding them will not be easy or cheap!
21 May 2025 07:58:44
Only able to see the first half, which was enough tbh. Gone backwards it seems, thought GON was manager again, nuff said. Hope the pattern of previous managers is not taking shape again, so much optimism, worrying performance, good to see VP annoyed with the performance utter 💩.
21 May 2025 09:11:55
Images are circulating of removal trucks at Semedo's house yesterday so if true, he is 100% off. Also there seems to be noise that Semedo wants to move back to Portugal to be closer to his family as one of his parents is ill. In that case, it's very difficult to blame the club.
I think over the summer we will lose: Sa, Johnstone, Semedo, Doyle, Forbs (end of loan), Hwang, Sarabia, Guedes, Silva and Cunha. No doubt the club have already made plans and in reality, only Sa, Semedo and Cunha are regular starters but all of those leaving need replacing. let's hope players have been identified, scouted and negotiations started.
21 May 2025 09:31:05
I did see those images Wandering, can’t really blame him given the circumstances. Thought that the performance was pretty awful last night, Doc looks a great player again. High turnover of players required in the summer, just hope history is not repeating itself otherwise we are in for another tough season. A result against Brentford on Sunday and good performance is now a must, need to raise spirits as we all low again now.
21 May 2025 17:10:29
Six wins on the bounce was excellent, but let us take into account who we played. As previous posts have pointed out we have been clueless against better opposition-12 occasions a substitute has scored against us-ridiculous. Not one penalty given in our favour-bad officiating or lack of penetration or pace in opposing boxes?
21 May 2025 17:12:27
Wonder when the premier league will take against the FFP cheating clubs? To my reckoning their are three in the Midlands, one in the North West and one in London. We shall see-hopefully
20 May 2025 09:35:12
I reckon we'll beat Palace 2-0 tonight and go on to finish in 13th position.
20 May 2025 11:30:14
I'll be happy with a point lostcity, palace will be on a high the place will be a rocking party and we'll be the plus ones.
I think we maybe the party poopers for a while but can't see palace giving up the celebrations unless they're knackered. 2-2 for me.
20 May 2025 11:49:11
Maybe Lost, let's hope they've still got hangovers. They are on a role at the moment unless The Cup win has put them on the beach.
20 May 2025 12:40:04
I'm in Tenerife and will watch at Gaffers bar in Las Americas.not hopeful though
20 May 2025 13:05:17
Hope you are correct Lostcity, really want us to finish season on a high. Not sure what to expect after the final, difficult to know how Palace will approach the game. Saying that I hope VP can motivate us after the last game, I think he will demand a good performance. For you, does he start Cunha?
20 May 2025 14:24:45
Make Cuhna travel and put him on the subs bench. Then snub him by putting on some youth players.
20 May 2025 14:42:11
I think so Banksy We're still paying his wages.
20 May 2025 15:43:26
If Cunha has got is head straight I would like him to play and play well. If he can’t be arsed, already left, worried about injury, then would keep him on bench.
Hard one to call, like you say we are still paying his wages, maybe Man U can start paying them now, seems he is their player already. Mad that he has all but gone but still our player.
20 May 2025 17:03:52
I'm all for playing our strongest team but I'd think carefully about playing Cunha in case of injury. He is likely to be targeted. What if he breaks a leg or something? The Man U transfer would be on hold and so would the £62mil transfer fee. He has nothing to prove, we won't get a penny more if he scores tonight. Give someone else a chance.
20 May 2025 18:01:51
Fair point Deep, but if he scores the winner tonight it would almost certainly earn us a few million extra in prize money.
20 May 2025 18:40:39
Think that sums up the problem Deep and Lost, he plays well as we all know he can, we win and may finish a few places higher, leading to more money to spend. Alternatively he walks about, not interested, maybe picks up an injury putting transfer in doubt. For me though, as mentioned earlier we pay his wages at the moment and he remains our player for a few days more anyway. Find out shortly what VP will do, just hope we play well and win, whoever plays. 🤞
20 May 2025 21:01:45
I don’t understand why some are so anti Cunha. Ok he’s got his faults (haven’t we all?)
The contract release trigger was too low but was that all down to him? More likely his agent and the club’s negotiating incompetence. Let’s not forget that back in January our Premier league status was very much in the balance. Easy to forget now 3 or 4 months later when we have stayed up easily. Back then I for one felt we had real hope when he ‘committed’ to stay till the end of the season. It gave me a real lift that Saturday night when he sighed the new contract. Ok so maybe it gave him a ‘guaranteed’ move to a big club. Was that him being cynical or his agent being clever or the club being desperate? Probably a combination of the later two in my opinion.
Give the bloke a break, thank him for the good times, recognise that he ‘ay’ a born and bred Wolves fan like the rest of us and wish him well. This is not a Nunes situation so let’s not slag him off as if it is.
20 May 2025 07:39:11
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19 May 2025 16:39:19
When Cunha plays against us next season, we should give him the Nunes treatment. I love him as a player but the way he's acted to force a move is nothing short of disgraceful.
The funny thing is, although Man Utd and Cunha have agreed terms, Man Utd haven't even approached Wolves. But Sky saying that won't be a problem because Man Utd will pay the release fee.
If I was Shi, I'd say all the money upfront or no deal.
19 May 2025 17:12:03
All the money up front? Absolutely. That’s how we should be with all the so called big clubs who think they can take our best players. They pay our price and pay up front. No fannying about with part exchanges (unless on our terms) and payment on our terms not theirs.
Don’t worry though, I’ve got every faith in Jeff. 🙄
19 May 2025 18:33:31
What's he done to force the deal exactly?! Has he refused to play, has he pubically said he wants out? No he has not, sorry but if you want to be annoyed about the deal then you should be annoyed with the club that offered him a release fee so foolishly small that they may have well have just sold him instead of doing the contract cause we would have got more in Jan! Only Wolves under Fosun would come out celebrating a new contract which in fact weakened their position more than not even giving him a new contract! More top money management from Jeff I'm afraid! 🤢
19 May 2025 18:38:44
I've got no issue with Cunha leaving. But there is a way to handle yourself and negotiating with the club when they have not even made contact with the selling club seems very backhanded and sneaky.
Had he not have told everyone how Wolves as a club and the fan base saves him when he was depressed and on the verge of quitting football, it wouldn't be so bad. But the fact is, he has shown himself to me a money grabbing mercenary. The sooner we're shot of him the better.
19 May 2025 21:07:43
Apparently the release clause allows the fee to be paid in 3 annual payments, the initial payment at the time of the transfer.
All the clauses and the fee would have been agreed with Cunha's agent. I think we were held over a barrel here. If we didn't agree, Cunha would go while we were in the relegation zone. We could only keep him on his terms.
20 May 2025 06:12:12
As I said, I've no problem with him moving but he's agreed to move to Man Utd even though they haven't actually approached Wolves to discuss the fee. Also, Cunha wants the move before the end of the season. He could have kept quiet but no, he went on about how much he loved the club and the fans, then slapped us in the face at the very 1st opportunity.
If you think that's morally right, then fine. But I don't. As I said, I don't begrudge him the move, but he could have acted in a more respectful way to our club.
20 May 2025 06:15:37
Ah, that's how much he thought of us then. Look there's no guarantee that he'll perform at another club especially one where the players ego's are significantly higher than their ability. When he first came to us he wasn't that great was he? He's pretty much given a free role at Wolves and he does drift in and out of matches as we've seen recently. There's no arguing that he can be brilliant on his day and pretty much saved us from certain relegation under GON, but let's face it we weren't playing as a unit/team then. VP has reinstated the pack mentality which Nuno gave us and I thought we actually played better when he was suspended albeit the team's we played were fairly poor. As I've said on numerous occasions there's always another 'Cuhna' out there waiting to be discovered. I have every faith in VP with his experience and worldwide travels that he'll bring in quality players that perhaps none of us have heard of. I'd certainly never heard of Aga, or Munetsi before they signed and both have become great aquasitions.
20 May 2025 08:58:39
I agree with most of the above comments on Cunha, disappointed that he is leaving but more disappointing is the way things have been handled by all concerned. Cunha would have been better to keep quiet, play well and leave everything behind the scenes, can’t really understand why he is so desperate to play for Man U at this time, club is a shambles. Our management to apply such a low release clause is terrible business, £80-£85m is more reasonable, all other clubs seem open to offers from anyone for their players causing prices to increase, not us unfortunately, all done as cheap and quickly as possible, madness. Interesting to see if he is selected tonight.
20 May 2025 09:15:47
Absolutely Banksy, my very thoughts except I actually think the valuation is right but a 'auction' may have brought in more, who would pay extra though?
Given all the reports around him now I'd rest him from the current team they don't the distraction, or for him to try and 'grandstand' in his last days with us, we ay wolves not cunha.
20 May 2025 09:33:26
So it seems Man U have their own transfer window, opens and closes at their will!
20 May 2025 10:05:54
Wolvo1963
You can agree to sign players at anytime but it doesn't officially go though untill the window opens.
20 May 2025 10:06:47
Some interesting points gents, some fair some not so. For exampl, I keep hearing about how Cunhas orchestrated this move but how exactly?! Please show me a single quote attributed to him that shows that HE is the one desperate to leave ASAP, or that HE is the one releasing these stories in the press cause so far there's not seen a single thing from him on this. In fact here's a question, if he's so entirely set on one club anyway then why is it in HIS interest to release the story? Cause the way I see it the ONLY parties than benefit from releasing the story are the club or his agent by generating more interest?
As for Cunha having us over a barrel I'm not really seeing how to be honest Tim. We were well within our rights to do exactly what almost every single club in this league does and say that we aren't selling our best players in the Jan window. He had over two years left on his cont
20 May 2025 10:28:05
Sorry that sent early (this site seems VERY glitchy these days)
The truth is though Tim we weren't over a barrel, we could have just done what EVERY other Prem club does and simply said we aren't selling our best players in the Jan window as its not good business?! Then we could have sold him at the end of the season with the two years left on his contract. I suspect we would have comfortably got the £62.5m in fact all we needed was a bidding war and we would have likely got even more! Seriously that really is a poor fee, we signed him for £43.5m so in real terms we are making less than £20m on one of the most technically gifted players this club has had, is that good business then?!
Sorry but the obvious answer is usually the right answer and the obvious answer here is that Jeff gave him a low release fee because the club in fact WANTED to sell him, just like they've WANTED to sell every other big name/quality player that we have had. Because if you operate in the Prem and give a striker a below market value release fee all it does do is guarantee that they will be sold, which is exactly what seems to have happened here?! For me the release fee was just a simple way for Jeff to get out of jail for yet again selling the family silver for pence on the pound. In fairness to him it seems to have worked doesn't it, cause here people are blaming Cunha when yet again it's Jeff selling off our progression/future?! Fair play Jeff, for you that's a very savvy slight of hand! 😂
20 May 2025 10:49:29
Jimmy, isn’t that called tapping up a player and if so against the rules is my point!
20 May 2025 11:26:26
Er, bully, didn't cunha put some tweets or whatever out, later retracted admittedly, indicating his departure from us? Then prompting his show of love to the south bank. He may of not said anything directly but the feelings were implied.
Honestly I think he stayed when he could of left, marred by his ban, but he did say he would stay until our safety was ensured, and credit to him for that, but we're safe and the circus around him now should not detract from the 2 games left. Let him have his swan song cameo v brentford, but we must forget him now and move on.
20 May 2025 11:35:39
I’m in agreement with WS regarding Man U paying for Cunha in instalments which now seems apparent. If Cunha is so in demand why can’t Wolves insist on cash up front or am I missing something? Just like the way we allowed Liverpool to get Jota way below his true market value.
20 May 2025 11:57:53
No Abbey, he's never done anything on socials to disrespect the club. He did an interview and that interviewer basically framed the piece as 'Next stop a successful club' and he contacted the journo saying that it was a complete misrepresentation of what he said! Weather it was or not is somewhat irrelevant (as we'll never know) the point is that he seems to have gone out of his way previously to try and avoid/explain any disrespect to the club! The ONLY reason this has become a soap opera is because of the release fee, the realeade that the club chose to give him!
20 May 2025 13:34:21
Fair comment bully's, I'm not, and don't follow that stuff so only read the journos interpretation. I got the impression he wanted away but thanked the club for giving him the belief. Either way I don't think the attention he'll get is worth him playing a full part now, let him enjoy the mol v brentford, something raul never got.
20 May 2025 13:44:42
BullysBoy, I think you're being a bit harsh on Jeff regarding the imminent sale of Cunha.
If he didn't sign a new contract, would teams that offered much more than the £50m for a player who had 2 years left on his contract, knowing that he was likely to leave at the end of the season?
Cunha has signed a new contract in the knowledge that he was going but has given us a guaranteed £62.5m
It's swings and roundabouts. He either didn't sign a new contract so he becomes unsettled when a club bids for him but doesn't want to pay tge going rate for a player with 2 years left on his contract, thereby making the player unhappy who in turns drives his value down by not performing, or get a guaranteed fee for a player who was set on leaving anyway.
20 May 2025 14:30:55
BB v impressed that you are still battling.
Sadly the board is seemingly now either completely in thrall to Jeff or cleverly manipulated by a "baggie fan" or two having a jolly good laugh at us.
We obviously don't know if Cunha, (or Neves, Neto, Kilman, Collins, Jota, MGW etc etc ), agitated for a move or indeed if next season one or more of RAN, (if still here), Andre, Gomes or Emmanuel will be responsible for their sale by the club.
You can be sure however that when one or more of them leave they will be vilified on here and we will be told that they were never any good and the club will be better off without them.
But we do know 2 things: Jeff told the fans, (and thus the players), that Wolves were not a club that was going to be competing for titles/cups, (Unlike obviously the big 6 - [although 2 of them are below us this season, will they be next though especially if one of them has our best player to carry them forwards], Newcastle, Villa or Forest chasing champions league football, Brighton, Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth chasing Europa, Palace who won a cup this week and West Ham who won a European Trophy in last couple of years. Indeed it appears that Jeff thinks we are competing in a small league with the 3 teams promoted from the championship and Everton, (although they have peskily just moved to a brand new stadium indicating scarily ambitious aims?).
Secondly we know that Wolves are in deep financial trouble - they made over £200m less than that mega club Brentford before player sales over the last 3 years - and therefore to avoid PSR penalties have to make hugely profitable player sales on a regular basis, (see players sold over the last few years - all those ones we don't know if they agitated for a move or not). There are only a handful of players in the squad who can be sold to make those huge profits and Cunha is probably top of the list.
So Cunha may be a horrible, useless footballer who demanded a move OR Jeff had to sell someone for a large fee. Cunha was the obvious one to sell so Jeff told him he was not wanted at a club that had no ambition but as a brilliant footballer he could get a massive increase in his salary and move to a team that believes it should be challenging for everything. However Cunha is a brilliant footballer who holds the entire team together and Jeff doesn't want to be castigated for selling him so he runs a campaign to destroy Cunha's reputation - completely successfully it seems!
I am sure most of you are dedicated Wolves fans but what I can't understand is why you aren't all raging with fury at how Jeff has and continues to destroy (ed) the club.
Taking us from the edge of the Champions League to, as seen earlier this season, the edge of the Championship. From a financially stable club to one that, as stated, is so financially strapped it has to sell its best players every year.
I don't want the club to lose matches and be relegated but Jeff's actions make/have made this more likely so why are you all so happy?
20 May 2025 15:07:51
Your right TFIOG. Fans are either pro Shi or Anti Shi.
Personally, I think he tried his best with Cunha and got a decent deal for us. The facts are that Cunha was 100% leaving this summer. He could have chosen to not sign a new contract and we sold him for a lower price as we had no real control of the incoming bids or how this would affect Cunha, or we could convince him to sign what is in effect a short term extension but with a guarantee of a minimal fee I our favour.
20 May 2025 15:21:02
Bully, we're obviously seeing this from differing perspectives.
Cunha wanted to go in January. The contract, with a low release fee and agreed instalments was the only thing that stopped him effectively downing tools and orchestrating a move as Plug did to get hisnmmove to City. We were in a relegation fight and needed our best player.
This, I believe is how we arrived where we are. Cunha showing his true colours, moving at the soonest possible moment (or earlier if he had his way).
I can't believe that Jeff would have orchestrated this. It certainly wasn't in his best interest, the only way could be MC demanded a move or a low release figure. If Jeff wasn't over a barrel he could have let MC play on and instigate a bidding war in the summer. No possible motive for Jeff to end up here unless forced.
Let's hope this sorry affair ends soon and we can move on and sign some players
20 May 2025 16:17:54
Tim - That is certainly the scenario Jeff wants us to believe but remember Jeff has to sell our best players pretty much every year! We lose tens of millions, (far more than other clubs!), a year - largely because Jeff is grossly incompetent so Cunha had to go!
We don't know if he wanted to go. Did Neves or the others and if they did why did they all want to go? (see post above!)
If Jeff was competent we could easily have afforded to keep the ones we wanted to do and thus with a front line of Cunha, Jota and Neto and with Neves etc also available we would surely be playing Champions League football most years and rolling in the money!
Wandering I accept it is an opinion on what he is worth and what bids we would have received if we sold him on the open market - tragic that due to Jeff's incompetence, (not sure how anyone given this fact can be pro Shi), that we have to sell him but we do.
However as a player in his prime who has performed as he has over the last 18 months, he pretty much carried our team this year, I strongly suspect bids would have opened somewhere over £100m.
He is one of the top handful of players in the league and in his prime, (unlike Salah, Van Dyke or De Bruyne for example), and they very very rarely come to the market.
20 May 2025 17:08:49
Or we could have had a similar situation like Adama Traore when he refused to sign a new contract and walked away for free.
20 May 2025 17:36:22
Surely even Jeff isn't that incompetent? We treated Adama appalling, (he was being paid a fraction of the salary Fabio was but was being tasked with, (and succeeding), carrying the team after Raul's injury. He apparently asked for this to be recognised and we obviously said no?!
We, having completely lost any sort of relationship with him, then incredibly stupidly gave Barcelona a free option to look him over.
I have a very low opinion of Jeff but not even he could get it so wrong again.
Besides 2 more years of Cunha, even if you think he would simply sit there and run his contract down and leave on a free, might well be worth £62.5m.
With him in the side we would finish far higher in the league/stay in the league, show our existing squad and prospective signees we are a serious club etc etc etc.
Quite possibly worth a damn site more than £62.5m but Wolves sadly, due to Jeff, don't have the pockets to take long term sensible decisions but are living hand to mouth.
Worrying though that you think Wolves sign such horrible people that they all shaft the club. Why do you think Wolves have such a bad relationship with their employees that they all want to leave?
20 May 2025 18:34:54
Adama was on £48k a week. The contract offer of £100k a week was on the table for 3 seasons, so to say he was on a fraction of what Fabio was on is simply untrue. He point blank refused to sign the contract and was basically holding the club to ransom by demanding £150k per week which Shi, quite rightly refused to pay him.
20 May 2025 18:38:15
But Wolves called his bluff and he ended up signing for Fulham for a paltry £65k per week. Mind you he was paid £6m signing on fee so this equates to a weekly wage of £125k.
20 May 2025 19:18:46
The other thing is this: football is ever evolving. Yes, we've let some good players go. Without selling Kilman, we wouldn't have Agbadou. Without selling Neto, we wouldn't have Rodrigo Gomes, without moving on Jimenez and Adama, we wouldn't have JSL and Cunha. Without moving on Neves and Moutinho, we'd have no Andre and Joao.
It's all guesswork for now but here's a scenario for you: People were disappointed that Jota left for Liverpool for £45m. In the last 2 seasons, his replacement (bought for £43m) has outperformed Jota in goals to games ratio, more assists etc. He has also been available for a lot more games due to his superior injury record. So if you look at the cold hard facts and stats, Cunha is an improvement as he stats are better in a lower performing team. What's to say whoever replaces Cunha (hopefully Alberto AND Amoura) won't improve our forward line much the same as Cunha did?
20 May 2025 19:38:22
I'm confused where you are getting those numbers from Wandering buddy because the Athletic article which quoted the £100k offered also acknowledged that he was only ever om £40k a week making it indeed a fraction of Fabio wages (half in fact)? Then there's the holding out for £150k a week which unless your his agent I'm not sure how you could possibly know that? Also BTW I'm still yet to read a SINGLE quote attributed to Cunha that disrespects the club or even says he's desperate to leave?! This is the thing everyone's angry with him but I'm yet to see anything other than paper talk?!
As usual, I couldn't agree more TFG buddy. I often think that Jeff can't believe his flipping luck, season after season he pees on the leg of the supporters and season after season just tells them it's raining! What's amazing is that a decent chunk of um seem to KEEP believing it, despite the league position, financial position and leaving talent definetively and consistently proving otherwise! I wonder if they would have still been saying this had we indeed been relegated this season? Instead they just keep blaming the players, whilst never seeming to question why it's the ambitious players that leave and the average players that don't seem to want to?! Give it a few months/a season and I'm sure it'll all be RANs fault, how dare he want to play for a club with ambition, good ridence we don't want quality/ambitious players anyway! It's like being stuck in a bad dream sometimes! 😂👍
20 May 2025 20:01:03
Wandering I have seen the rumour that he was offered £100k but also articles saying the offer was £60k.
Clearly only Adama and the club really know.
Additionally I have seen the £48k figure you quoted for his wage but also a £40k figure and indeed a £55k figure.
However you cut it though that is a fraction - only just over or indeed exactly 1/2 - of what Fabio was supposedly earning some £80k+
Given the relative contributions they were making you can see why he was far from happy.
It is your opinion that Jeff was wise to allow him to leave for free. Perhaps by the end there was no choice and to be fair his game had fairly significantly deteriorated - although playing in a team without a credible cf when you are an out and out winger will do that for you - by then anyway.
But at the time Fabio arrived and upset the apple cart he was one of the stars not just of the Wolves team but the Prem league.
Failing to keep him happy on and off the pitch meant that sadly we lost out on a superstar. However you are correct (and maybe Jeff takes comfort from this ) that he has failed to recover that level of magic since and Fulham are indeed only paying him the circa £65k you mention, albeit with the signing on fee to bolster his wage.
20 May 2025 21:03:53
But by the same token, I've seen reports that Fabio earns £80k per week but others saying it's £37k per week. For instance, Capology and Sports Salary say £37k to £42k per week whereas Sportrac and Aiscore quote £80k per week.
Just depends which one you believe.
19 May 2025 14:54:15
If and it is a huge if Cunha is still with us next season we all need to get behind him.
19 May 2025 15:47:51
He's gone, his head turned in the last window. As far as I'm concerned I think it better we drop him. If he wants away then he shouldn't be part of the pack.
We are a better team without him anyway even though he's our best player when he can be bothered.
How on earth did Man U get him to think that they are worth joining (even if they get Champion's League). If he's buying 'the project' then he'll need a very long contract to see it come to fruition. If Spurs win on Wednesday they will also have little money to spend.
I find it all a little bizarre
19 May 2025 16:19:39
I agree Tim156 don’t understand the move to Man U either, if they lose to Spuds, and I hope they do, they will not be any better off than Wolves.
I think Cunha will start tomorrow just hope he is more committed than he appeared v BHA.
Guess we have to move on, get as much as possible for Cunha and hope we can sign some fantastic players in the summer 🤞👍
19 May 2025 16:35:15
I said last week that I hope Cunha has given Man Utd his word that he will join then and that Spurs win the Europa League and he changes his mind but Fosun tell him in no uncertain terms to do one.
19 May 2025 17:04:55
I hope Cunha has 2 amazing games still to play for Wolves.
I hope he moves to Man Utd but they fail to qualify for Europe next season.
I hope Amorim gets sacked and the new manager feels that Cunha doesn't fit into his plans and this in return leads to Cunha missing out on Ancelotti's Brazil squad.
I hope Cunha feels that in order to resurrect his World Cup dream, he needs a loan move and pleads with Wolves to sign him in January 2026 but we tell him to F off.
I hope he does get a move to and does OK, manages to force his way back into Ancelotti's plans but then suffers an injury keeping out of the World Cup.
A bit far fetched but a few months ago, he did go on record to thank the Wolves fans for saving him and his career after his World Cup dream ended whilst at Atletico Madrid.
19 May 2025 17:42:06
Be amazed WS if all that happens, will come back to you with assistance for lottery numbers. I like your ideas though, be great to see Cunha play well and score a few in these last 2 games, remind everyone how good he can be, rather than seeming not interested and walking about. Would love to see Spurs win but unfortunately think Man U will. Was hoping the price for Cunha would increase and we sell him to a Saudi club for maximum profit, we are more likely though to have already agreed a deal to Man U at his release clause, we don’t seem the best at achieving the highest price as all other clubs seem too.
19 May 2025 19:21:50
I truly hope Sours win the Europa league and United go down next season.