Wolves banter 10

06 Oct 2025 16:55:49
Could end up with steve Bruce
Now available.

07 Oct 2025 10:06:24
No Moby, I think Steve Bruce deserves the West Brom job.

06 Oct 2025 15:46:35
Be careful what you wish for. VP has not become a bad manager overnight. He is the right man for the job and we would be unlikely to do better. We all make mistakes and VP has made a few lately. It is not his fault that we are obliged to play Hwang and are consequently playing with ten men.

06 Oct 2025 17:39:43
Are you suggesting Wolves have some sort of deal with Korean TV/tourist board?
Even if it does, when you look at Wolves total income from commercial activities, it is highly unlikely that that the income generated by Wolves from all Korean sources covers anything like even a few weeks of Hwang's wages.
It is therefore unlikely to be a reason to pick him!
Note each place in the table is worth millions of pounds and relegation costs tens of millions so you certainly want your best team on the pitch every week!

06 Oct 2025 18:43:06
Hwang wasn’t our best player yesterday, but he wasn’t really bad. I would probably rather see fer Lopez or Rodrigo but hwang is our best finisher and didn’t look a mile out of place yesterday.

06 Oct 2025 22:18:27
Can we stop the contractually obliged to pick Hwang nonsense. Unless anyone here can evidence it?

07 Oct 2025 01:54:32
Spot on Sevlov, as far as conspiracys go it doesn't even make sense! Chan played less games last season than any other season, so I can only assume that this imaginary clause was added to his contract but ONLY at the start of this season?! Maybe it has something to do with the earth being flat eh?! 🤣🤣🤣

07 Oct 2025 06:07:40
There's got to be a reason why VP was willing to sell him this summer as he was surplus to requirements but now a mainstay of the team. It can't be a footballing decision as everyone can see he's awful.

07 Oct 2025 09:39:05
Wandering is it not entirely possible that he was willing to sell him in order to fund buying a replacement but having not been able to sell then Chan is now what he sees as his best option?! Sorry but if you or anyone thinks that VP would agree to HAVING to play someone despite form/managers choice then you clearly think the man's an absolute moron?! No manager would and as TFG points out the numbers literally don't even add up!
As I've said before the problem with this frankly ridiculous conspiracy is that it absolves VP (and the club) of their own shortcomings! If VP is starting Hwang then it's because he GENUINELY believes he's the most experienced/best option that he has! Time would be FAR better spent debating how on earth the club have put themselves in a position where Hwangs first choice rather than foolish conspiracy theories that to be honest have absolutely no basis in reality! 🧐

07 Oct 2025 09:53:40
Surely the reason they were willing to sell Hwang is simple, they had interest from Crystal Palace and needed to create an overseas spot in the squad for Uche at the time.

There is no conspiracy theory, he's just getting the nod at the moment as the alternatives are unproven and not specialists in his role in this system.

07 Oct 2025 09:58:02
BullysBoy II, you beat me to the reply, and said pretty much the same thing but more eloquently 😂

07 Oct 2025 12:03:41
Managers are not told to play/select certain players you say doesn't happen you say Bullysboy? You might want to ask Hansi Flick about that. Remember when he tried to end Manuel Neuer and Thomas Mullers international careers only to be told by Bayern Munich that if he didn't select them, then Bayern would not release any player to that National team. It may not be that extreme at Wolves but it does go on.

07 Oct 2025 12:31:55
All, now I am going to add to the conspiracy theory.

Wolves have a sponsorship deal with Kocowa. This sponsorship, although no financial figures are available, has garnered 63m views from the South Korean community. The only player in the Premier League who generated more interest in South Korea was a certain Son Heung Min.

In May 2025, it was highly likely that Hwang was to be sold over the summer.

On 6th August 2025, Son announced that he was leaving Spurs for the USA.

On 13th August, despite Hwang failing to secure a move and despite the fact that the transfer window was still open for another 19 days, Wolves rejected moves by both Palace and Marseilles to take Hwang on loan for the season. Then on 26th August the club changed tact and said he would not be moving on under any circumstances.

A few days later, the club announce that they had now partnered with Kocowa as their main streaming platform partner. The CEO of Kocowa said at the announcement of the deal 'Wolves’ global presence and engaged fan base is a natural fit for our demographic, not to mention Hee Chan Hwang is one of our favourite players.'

This partnership is clearly to ensure that the Wolves brand is grown internationally and it seems that once Son left Spurs, the club took the chance to seize on an advertising opportunity. I think the caveat of the deal is that Hwang has to play some part (to the detriment of the team) just so the brand is grown.

I may be far off the mark here but this is what football has become now, a game played as much in the advertising field as much as the football field.

07 Oct 2025 17:28:58
I’m not buying this Hwang must play because of Korean TV or any other dealfor that matter. Any manager or head coach worth his salt would not stand for it.
Kwang was not sold because we didn’t have a replacement.

07 Oct 2025 18:02:30
Sorry Wandering but those dates you've given are entirely guess work depending on which outlet you are reading it on. In fact when I look it up on Mol News and Football Asia not only are the dates different but both sites (like many others) state that the VERY simple reason the deals broke down was because clubs only wanted a loan with no obligation to buy well we've learnt what that means the hard way (basically a free loan)! They also only wanted to pay £12m for him which frankly with our threadbare squad I would say they made the right call!
It's also worth noting here that as MolWay rightly points out that this was all actually happening round the back drop of Matt Hobbs/Palace gazumping us to Uche!
I also think that you seem a little confused about who needs who when choosing a streaming platform! Wolves are (at time of writing:) playing in the Prem league. Do you not think that Wolves therefore have the power in that dynamic as THEY are the ones selling Prem footy rather than the streaming company who don't have a business without stuff to sell?! There's also another little problem with your conspiracy and that is it wasn't a new deal with Kowoc was it, no quite the opposite! I think you will find that WE (Wolves) opted to take the option to extend the deal with Kowoc at the start of Sept!
So this whole notion that we are in some way indebted to them is absolute tripe all round I'm afraid buddy. As usual in the life the easy answer is often/usually the right answer and so is the case here. Hwang is starting cause VP thinks he should be and that's his choice as a manager plain and simple! I suspect this point will be well proven as I have a suspicion that after the last match (and the increased pressure) VP will start JSL and Tolu next game. Let's hope so eh 👍

07 Oct 2025 19:05:34
As I said, I may be very wide of the mark. But for me personally, Hwang should not play again. Do we have any one better? Rodrigo, Bellegarde to name 2. Surely playing with no experience but eager to prove your worth is better than what drivel Hwang brings.

07 Oct 2025 19:16:21
BullysBoy. Do you know that the Premier League make more money from overseas TV rights than they do in the UK. The PL have a very close control of the actual product. What they don't have control over is the Asian Market due to the Chinese government's will to control. The Korean people are not interested in particular teams, they are more about individuals who highlight them as a nation. The Premier League is big in S Korea but the players are bigger.

07 Oct 2025 20:42:42
Yes Wandering I do know that, but do you know why?! It's not about control (the Prem retain much of the control when selling nationally) but it is mostly due to the 3pm blackout which means we can only sell half of our rights for live games in Eng (with the other halfish of matches on at 3pm Sat). It's also (ironically) the reason for the rise of IPTV as generally speaking most other nations get more Live Prem than we do.
All of that however doesn't change what I said. It was OUR decision to extend the contract (which took part at the beginning of Sept, after Chan was already staying). I can also guarantee you that at absolutely no point was that extension part of some Bond-villain-like plan to give Hwang Hee-Chan more game time! C'mon Wandering, your a bright guy and you know this is nonsense deep down! Like I say though it is a welcome distraction from the REAL debate isn't it. Which should be how have things got to the point where we are relying on Hwang for the goals we need to keep us up?! 😭👍

07 Oct 2025 23:08:47
Personally, Rodrigo or Bellegarde should start ahead of Hwang.

09 Oct 2025 11:04:17
Not sure on Bellegarde, he drifts in and out of games for me making him more of an impact sub. But I couldn't agree more with Rodrigo, seems bizarre to me that whenever he plays he looks like one of the best/most dangerous players we have yet he just doesn't seem to get much game time. Let's hope we change things round next game buddy 👍

06 Oct 2025 07:39:27
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06 Oct 2025 08:11:23
As others have said if GON should have been sacked sooner, and Jeff has acknowledged that, if we don’t get anything over the next 3 games VP should be replaced. Anything other than 4 points would be disappointing, lose all 3 than he has to go. Although our squad isn’t brilliant it is better than our results, if VP had an input on transfers he can’t really complain. Absolute shambles again and not at all surprising.

06 Oct 2025 08:34:25
As I have said before on this page I was told nearly twelve months ago that VP was not good enough he should go today before it's to late to repair the damage

06 Oct 2025 09:49:04
It look's like I'm in a minority of two, me and Goatmark, who commented earlier. Results HAVE improved, we are unbeaten in three matches. In my heart of hearts, in advance, I would have thought that a point in each of the Spurs and Brighton matches was good. We were a whisker away from winning both. I was at Stamford Bridge on 27th September where I saw Brighton beat Chelsea. I know it was against 10 men from 53 minutes, but Brighton were fantastic all the same. As for VP, I query his multiple subs when we are winning. Reminds me of the disastrous subs by Nuno when we were 2-0 up against Watford in that FA semi-final. I'd give VP until Christmas unless we go backwards now. The Big Boss in China should get his cheque book ready. For me, the first signing should be a CEO with a track record of success, and to be given full authority in football decisions.

06 Oct 2025 10:22:42
Give him till Christmas it could well to late by then can you honestly think that results and performances are going to improve the way he keeps changing things around too many defensive players brought on again yesterday instead of going for the throat Lost us six points in the last two games sorry he's got to go and go now

06 Oct 2025 10:57:50
Sorry meant four points not six

06 Oct 2025 11:18:26
Well N Hill wolf, the alleged 'new manager bounce' has done a fat lot of good at Forest and West Ham! The lesser of two evils is keeping VP in place. As I said, I'd give VP until Christmas unless we go backwards now. I think you missed the second part of that sentence. It would be foolish to sack a previously successful coach on the back of a bad run, which seems to have come to an end anyway.

06 Oct 2025 11:25:44
I'm in no doubt that VP will continue in his role, he has just signed a new contract so there must be some support from above. What happens if results continue to be poor? A knee jerk reaction from Jeff which could exacerbate our situation and plunge us into further chaos?
I don't know what the answer is I'm just hoping that we turn a corner soon or I fear the worst.
Never easy being a Wolves supporter these days.

06 Oct 2025 11:29:34
We can all see that Deep and of course we all want VP and the team to do better and hopefully they will. I predicted a draw at Spurs but felt it was a game that we could potentially have won and said as much on here.

However, given the quality of this squad VP can't afford to make mistakes with tactics or substitutions because if that continues to cost us points he will be gone, Jeff has no choice. I like VP and always felt we'd got, at last, a solid replacement but it's up to him to prove it.

Having said all that even if he does start to get a tune out of them we all know what will happen again this Summer, then it will be 'back on your heads lads' all over again. Survival at this level being Fosun's only goal with little thought for the fans they claim to need so badly.

06 Oct 2025 12:18:15
Just a question: Wasn't it suggested that a clause was in the new contract relating to performances?
If it was VP may not be around come Xmas. But, who would be happy to assume the role? Who is available that we'd be happy with?

06 Oct 2025 12:23:32
We will have to wait and see but do you think that there are three teams worse than us

06 Oct 2025 15:34:32
The way we are playing and I guess points speak for themselves, we are the poorest team in the PL. I hope I am wrong just can’t see us beating Sunderland, need 3 points then against Burnley at home. Do want things to improve just not optimistic at the moment, unfortunately.

06 Oct 2025 16:21:35
Away we're starting to look OK performance wise Banksy, it's the home performances that concern me the most, that needs to change and quickly.

05 Oct 2025 22:40:45
If VP is sacked, no doubt Jeff Shi will go all out for Sean Dyche. We are a laughing stock.

06 Oct 2025 07:45:26
With Shi now having direct control of Football, it is surely another step towards relegation.
The way the players stood around looking lost after the game is deeply concerning.
I am afraid Wandering, without a Sean Dyche type manager, we will be back in to the wilderness.
Seems Fosun are happy for season after season for us to struggle.
So hard to take after the first few years of their ownership.

06 Oct 2025 10:38:12
Make no mistake the team looked like individuals trying to fit into a system that none them knew when we started. Johnstone kept us in it.
The subs, all questionable bar Hugo for Wolfe if Hugo was suffering.
Larsen you could say was precautionary if it had been tolu who had come for him, larsen didn't want to come off, he'd held the ball up which ultimately led to the chance Arias squandered, and he'd made the lone run resulting in him hitting the post.
Agbadu brought some confusion (and brighton throws).
Bellegarde?.
It seems as if VP and crew are here to ensure relegation at times.

All that said I agree with deep throat in that 2 points from spurs away and what can be an excellent
brighton should be welcomed but what a shame the management shoot us in the feet in both games and lose us what could have been 6.

It's easy watching from the stand or in my case TV but what on earth was the reasoning in the dugout.

05 Oct 2025 20:56:12
Without going over old ground, as we all know the fundamental problem, it does appear that VP may just be out of his depth. After a promising start last season and a new contract, just like GON, we seem to be all at sea again. Ok, maybe no match winners in this squad but on paper it should be a half decent side at least.

It does seem that tactics and substitutions are costing us points which after acknowledging the mistakes in the Spurs game it appears they were repeated today. So far it's cost us 4 points in the last 2 games that would have seen us not just off the bottom but out of the relegation zone.

Jeff likes VP but we know that doesn't count for much where Premier League survival is concerned but as they've acknowledged they kept GON too long and they won't make that mistake again. I would suggest, therefore, if things haven't improved within a month then VP could be under pressure, or worse. The results towards the end of last season and those so far this do not make great reading but as some are commenting, who would we get, would Fosun really 'go for it' with a top name or another bargain basement appointment?

They chased Lopetegui for years but then failed to fully back him fully so will they stick with VP or make a change linked to a big spend in January or will it be just more poor judgement, kick and hope. I can't see Jeff carrying the can for a relegation so logic dictates that if VP does go for whatever reason Jeff's only hope would be to employ a top name and back him otherwise Fosun will lose £100M's and he'll be gone. Happy days, again!

05 Oct 2025 22:56:02
Did anyone expect us to get anything from spurs and Brighton? Spurs away is always tough especially as they are doing well this season. And Brighton as some posted are a bogey team and most expected them to hammer us again. I’m not saying I agree with the subs and some of the calls made by VP but tbf I’m sure most would have taken a point before both games. We are improving every game and I still think patients is needed. Yes the next few games are big but I expect to see more improvement and hopefully not repeating mistakes made over the last two games.

06 Oct 2025 08:27:58
I have to concede Goatmark1 that, since the dust has settled and my anger and frustration has calmed, I agree. I wasn’t expecting anything from the Spurs game (rather a 4/5 goal thrashing!) and maybe hoped for a draw against Brighton. So in reality we’re 1 point up!
We had many chances that, on a clear day, we would have won both games.
I’m sorry but even though I like Hwang he’s listening his spirit. I did see flashes of the old Agbadou yesterday, so that was reassuring.
I didn’t see any passion or want to win the game though and that needs to be there until the final whistle. I’d hate for us to go down but in the words of the great Beverley Knight: ‘Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda’ seems to be our season’s motto.

06 Oct 2025 09:49:21
When/If we get relegated LMW I honestly fear the worst. Fosun will sell our better assets and then go into admin to avoid paying their debts. A points deduction then relegation into EFL1. New owners and we start the cycle over again. I've tried to support our owners as much as possible, but they should sell up now and hope we get new owners who want to invest and run us as a professional foot all club.

06 Oct 2025 10:16:09
Goat and Bos - interesting posts.
Although Wolves record versus Spurs is actually pretty good, won 5 and drawn 2 of the last 8, they have been playing well this year and the record against Brighton is amazingly bad right back to the 70s!
Consequently like you I didn't have high hopes.
However whilst Wolves may, as Bos states, be up on those 2 games it sadly has to be put into the context of the preceding 5 games where the club is sharply, at least 6 points, down. Wolves, (or any serious Premier League side), have to expect to beat lower table teams, as Leeds and Everton are anticipated to be, at home!
However I don't see Shi making changes anytime soon- despite the comment re GON's retention - as it would be far too embarrassing to sack another manager just after giving them a long term contract, (as well hugely expensive!).
Thus Vitor will almost certainly preside over the next 3. These are games where points have to be won. For me 5 at the least but reality 6, 7 or even 9 might be required.
Long whilst I don't dispute that Vitor has under performed - indeed I would have expected him to have been removed several weeks ago- the elephant in the room is that the squad is simply not very good.
You hint at this with the "no match winners" comment but with JSL "off colour", Emmanuel looking v sickly and Arias and Krejci still unpacking their suitcases, the squad probably only has 2 players who are currently established top half of the table Prem league quality players!
Whilst one has to hope that the new players can develop and that some of last season's stars can rediscover their form I fear that 17th was only ever the aim and Jeff may have badly misjudged how well some of the other putative relegation candidates performed in the summer transfer market.

06 Oct 2025 11:10:13
Nobody expected us to get anything from spurs and Brighton but we had 2 wins in the bag with minutes remaining. Spurs was suicide cus that game was won. Brighton was won if we'd trusted the 11 starters and took hwang off for tolu. And that's as simple as it is but vp made mind boggling subs and 2 points instead of 6. seems he's set in his ways is vp and it WILL take us down. David moyes was my choice. Everton went downhill after getting rid of him and they begged him to go back and he's got them hard to beat and a fantastic bit of business by getting grealish on loan. West ham were always safe with him and look at them now and it's sods law that nuno will get them safe. as for us I really don't know what's coming next and I don't think vp does either.

06 Oct 2025 11:38:05
Sorry, my reply should have read ‘Hwang is losing his spirit’ 🙄

05 Oct 2025 20:12:15
Stats don't lie, no league win since April 24, only team yet to register a win this season, least number of goals scored. It must be hard for Wolves supporters to watch this rubbish.Come next transfer window there will be a few departures. Victor's record is just as bad as O'Neill's. Shi should ring Michael Beale see if he is available.

05 Oct 2025 20:01:32
Probably stating the obvious but obtaining 6 if not 9 points from our next 3 games becomes huge.

05 Oct 2025 18:39:01
After today a lot of calls for VP to go. If that is the case then who do we get. Remember a lot wanted Potter before VP and look what he did at West Ham.
I'm not sure changing right now is the answer let's stick with Vp for another five or six games and then make a call but my question still remains who do we get to replace him?

05 Oct 2025 19:01:49
Hello Nando, I just posted:-
We have Sunderland away, Burnley home and then I think Fulham away as our next 3 matches. We need points from these games, goes without saying. What do people think we will achieve in these next 3 and does anyone think Jeff will sack VP should we get 0 points?
I have no idea who is out there and would be willing to work with Jeff should results continue in the same way.

05 Oct 2025 19:14:43
Understandable Nando, but we gave GON too much time, I don't think we can buy ourselves out this time, or, are capable of the 6 wins.
Who would want to come in?
VP wanted to manage in the Prem after China and Saudi I think we'll his credibility is going if not gone at this level. His honeymoon with wolves fans will also soon be over, and he won't find a better bunch who've supported him through our losses and dull performances.
I don't blame the players (bar one) they've been sent out to play in a way against their grain, or so it appears to me.
So what's to be done? Are Fosun happy to oversee the demise of this famous club? Who and how would they coax any quality manager and staff to us?
They've thrown good money after bad every season since Nuno whilst neglecting to spend on proven players.
The performance today was at VPs door, explanations communications maybe, tactical decisions definitely.
I'm afraid I see it as better the devil you know situation as it stands although Posc might be available from forest soon! You see my point?
Forget the pints VP get the points, seen to be trying to get the points would be a start.

05 Oct 2025 19:33:58
Bruno Lage played attacking football but wasn't backed. Julen Lopetegui played efficient football but wasn't backed. GON was sold down the river. VP has been backed but this is some of the worst football I've seen since the Dean Saunders days.

05 Oct 2025 19:34:30
When we were last looking for a manager I suggested Will Still,
Now at Southampton but would go after him.

05 Oct 2025 19:42:12
I know it was on Sky and Brighton aren't exactly what I would call an attractive team, but there was a lot of empty seats in the home section today. TBH I don't go too much these days, but can hardly blame those that are choosing to spend their money elsewhere. That performance was as poor as it gets. Absolutely no movement off the ball. So frustrating to watch and to concede due to lack of concentration is totally unprofessional. It was a good headed goal, but we just switched off and allowed them to get a cross in. Two points dropped against a very poor Brighton side. Sorry VP but no excuses now. Hwang is useless and we are playing 10 V 11 with him in the side. Not sure why Hugo was taken off. Subs very strange.

05 Oct 2025 20:04:12
Missed the boat with moyes. he kept west ham safe and look what he's doing at Everton. If vp carries on doing what he's done the past 2 weeks from winning positions we'll be lucky to get 3 draws. I'm not saying vp needs to go but he's getting everything wrong at the moment. Agbadou . Hwang and bellegarde should be nowhere near any premier team. I personally can't see us getting out of this mess. Larson pissed off now aswell so can see him leaving in jan and krejik seems to be the only bright spark we got + bueno playing well with him till vp stuck Agbadou amongst them.

05 Oct 2025 20:05:49
Should give VP 3 more games. Should never have offered him a new deal until there were a reasonable number of points on the board this season. Same mistake as last season. It's criminal.

In terms of who to go for - I have no idea. Potter wasn't the answer last time and still wouldn't be. Could go with an unknown from Europe, that's a massive risk that may or may not pay off.

It would likely be a manager out of work when the time comes for the change. The bigger worry going on our track record is the board would hire Solksjaer or Southgate.

06 Oct 2025 10:32:38
Was he backed though?! As I've said before if finishing the transfer window £13.5m UP on transfers counts as backed then I'd hate to see us not backing the manager! Now Sunderland were backed and look at um fly, as peeps have said ALL summer we've sold our goals and this is what that looks like I'm afraid! Yes the team is probably better than our position to the league but that's just what happens in the Prem when you don't have enough quality to take your chances. We should have been a goal clear BEFORE they scored on Sunday. Same story as the week before and I suspect it's one that won't be changing anytime soon 😭

06 Oct 2025 11:31:50
Michael Carrick

05 Oct 2025 18:20:28
I may not be thinking straight due to the anger of the performance I witnessed today.

VP is not the man to take this great club forward. We are playing worse than we did under GON but at least GON had his team fighting for every ball.

Where do we go from here? I've see a partnership of Moutinho and Coady suggested but for me, it has to be Fosun crawl back to Julen Lopetegui and give him the backing he wanted the first time around to move us forward.

05 Oct 2025 19:53:57
At least we can look forward to Championship League next season

05 Oct 2025 20:03:55
I've been on a similar page for a few weeks Wandering.

05 Oct 2025 20:10:42
There's not a chance Lopetegui would come back to the club. He had to be convinced three times to come in the first time and that was BEFORE Jeff completely misold him the club's ambitions (or lack there of)! Lope left because like many on here he could see EXACTLY where we would end up consistently selling our best players and replacing them with pence on the pound! This hasn't happened over night, we've cut the quality back year on year until we have exactly what we do now! A bottom of the league team that look like the overall level of quality is about Champ standard! Ya get what you pay for which us precisely why we are where we are. We dominated Brighton for most of the game today and yet again haven't won for the simple reason that we lack quality in front of goal. We were always going to struggle to score this season, the only thing that makes this whole situation even MORE infuriating is just how utterly predictable this entire situation has been! 😭

06 Oct 2025 08:52:45
BB you're most likely correct regarding Lope, but who knows! All that said apart from sticking with VP I don't know where we go from here.

06 Oct 2025 19:56:15
Michael Carrick

05 Oct 2025 18:18:25
I thought we played well with the 4 at the back but for the life of me why does he keep playing hwang he's terrible and with half hour left goes to a back 5 and then with 20 mins to go takes larsen off and brings another defender on mind boggling tbf

05 Oct 2025 19:44:53
Hwang lost more than he gave.
It was a back 5 but Agbadou thought it was a back 3
Larsen was changed as he’d done nothing other than 2 attempts without moving around or fighting the cause. Play stepped up once the manager was carded which could be a sign but soon fizzled out. As usual we switched off at a critical time. Johnstone noticed but it was too late to stop the shot into the box.
Very disappointing again. I really don’t know what the answer is (maybe they’ll give me a job?)!

05 Oct 2025 20:42:43
Larsen did nothing, literally five mins before he went off he took on their entire defence, skipped past them and hit the post?! Five minutes before that he held the ball up perfectly whilst the rest of our attacking line laboured their way across the half way line at a snails pace! Don't get me wrong he could have done more today but he's also the ONLY player that looks like creating something. We simply do not have the required levels of quality to score enough goals to stay in this league I'm afraid. Taking JSL off for a CM was beyond stupid and effectively told the entire Brighton team that we'd given up trying to attack/score. I've been behind VP but I'm afraid his substitions are ruining us right now. We should have won both the last two games and in both cases VPs changes made us worse and not better! Just SO depressing! 😭