Wolves banter 6

18 Oct 2025 19:35:04
Bruno Lage was never backed.

Lopetegui told the world that he was being hindered in the transfer market.

Gary O'Neil kept said he didn't get the players he needed to take the club forward.

What makes me angrier at VP is that he has come out and publicly said that Fosun have fully backed him in the transfer market where as the previous 3 all showed their frustrations whilst in post. For this fact alone, I think VP has to go as he claims that he has 100% autonomy of incoming players therefore it is entirely at his door that the buck stops.

18 Oct 2025 19:49:40
We spent nearly 100+ million fosun ain't the problem its the management shi and vp

18 Oct 2025 19:59:54
It's Shi and Fosun that need to go as they are the authors of our situation not some Coach who is just glad to be here so will tow the party line.

They set the transfer policies and budgets, he has to work within the consequences of those parameters. It didn't work for his predecessors and it won't work for him or the next Coach if he does get the chop.

18 Oct 2025 20:37:09
Everyone's to blame. Fosun for desimating the club and VP for identifying and approving mediocre players.

18 Oct 2025 20:51:33
Exactly!

18 Oct 2025 21:43:55
The difference is LongmyndWolf is that Lage, Lopetegui and GON all said that they were not backed but VP says the exact opposite. So if he has been backed, the blame is on him too for identifying players that ain't good enough to play in a system that he's implemented. At least undet GON we were scoring. Under VP we don't look capable and our defence is a catastrophe.

18 Oct 2025 23:06:14
All of which is true Wandering but as I said he doesn't set the budgets and potential recruits will be initially identified by the recruitment department and he will ok the ones he wants from those who want to come and the Club can afford.

He can't just go out and buy up the best available or necessarily his first choice.

19 Oct 2025 00:04:12
Hang on Wandering make ya mind up mate, are they mediocre players or are they good enough to get mid table (as you said earlier) cause ya can't have it both ways?! And if they are good enough for a mid table finish then by what metric are you basing that on exactly? Cause so far outside of Krejci I've yet to see a single 90 minute performance that suggests they are up to the task at hand. Now that isn't to say they won't be one day, but there in lies the problem. We've bought half a team of players and only one of them looks Prem ready! You just don't get away with that at this level and the proof of this is sadly being seen in the points pudding! As for them being VPs players, well he might have agreed to them but how many of them were his first choice?! From what I can see ONLY Fer Lopez and Krejci were actually first choice, the rest were 2nd, 3rd and 4th on the list and again there in lies the problem! Like Judah said we let 15 years worth of Prem experience leave and replaced them with a group of players who had not a single min of Prem experience between them, frankly that is criminal!
We keep doing the same thing over and over again, selling the manager short and then blaming the manager! Sooner or later we have to stop questioning the monkey and start asking what excalty is the organ grinder doing?! VP hasn't become a bad manager over night, neither did GON or Lage. All three of them were given pigs ear (average signings made FAR to late, with no Prem experience) and then blamed for the quality of the shody purse they have created! VP towed the company line (I'm happy with the business) because he wanted a new contract and it worked. But who REALLY loses in that? Cause if we sack him tomoz he makes a fortune and we are still up the creak without a paddle! Run into the ground by an ownership group that doesn't care and a chairman that just wants to play FIFA! I'm sick of it and I'm sick of people just making out like this is a manager/tactical problem. It's far bigger than that and it's also precisely why we are bottom of the league and doomed to relegation! 😭

19 Oct 2025 09:37:17
Bullysboy. To me, they are players that are good enough to stay in the league quite easily given the correct tactics. But under VPs management, they look mediocre and useless.

The metric I use is quite simple. Yesterday we had 8 full International players starting the game. These players represent the likes of Portugal, Brazil and Uruguay who are considered as some of the favourites for the next World Cup.

Its the old Real Madrid Galacticios issue when you have the individual players but the coach can't get them to gel and work together.

So we have decent players, but not a manager who can make it work.

19 Oct 2025 10:34:57
LongmyndWolf, Simon Jordan said earlier this week when talking about potential changes to PSR rules that other than Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, no club can just go out and buy who they want. The club need to cut their clothes accordingly and if they know they've only got a certain standard of player to work with, then they must get a manager who can achieve something with what's available. He pointed out that that's what Glasner and Iraola do. Spend little money at first but are great coaches and highly sought after. VP is not this type of person. VP is a short term guy. Bring him in for an immediate effect and then move on. Why? Because he hasn't got the nous to plan for the long term, hence his nomadic managerial career.

18 Oct 2025 18:28:44
Perhaps we should try the PINTS BEFORE THE POINTS!😂

18 Oct 2025 18:45:56
Maybe that is where they are all going wrong Oxley, VP and players having a few before the game. I don’t see the manager turning this round, how often when it gets this bad to you see a team recover? Incredibly unlikely, unfortunately can’t see anything changing, they will stumble along, possibly draw v Burnley, as always too slow to act.

18 Oct 2025 19:28:27
Since VP joined we have only beaten 2 teams who were above us in the league. So things not looking too good considering where we are. Finding it hard to come up with any positives.

18 Oct 2025 19:41:48
There are none.

18 Oct 2025 17:57:00
I honestly think that after 58yrs of watching
Wolves play and the ups and downs of the club over the years you think they would of learnt something.
Personally I think fosun need to sell now
Have a complete clear out. The Last few manager's have been fooled into promises
By owners.
These players come out on the pitch and are terrified .
They have no premiership skills
I think vp
Was left with a impossible task .
Has all real wolves supporters we can only hope& carry on giving them support
They need it.
Very sad what's happening
But had to walk out today to upsetting .

18 Oct 2025 21:25:25
I had to stop watching at the 50 min mark Moby it was too disappointing.

18 Oct 2025 17:49:40
A list of managers I'd rather have than VP:

Edin Terzic, Erik Ten Haag, Ange Postecoglu, Big Sam, Gary O'Neil, Sean Dyche.

18 Oct 2025 18:30:16
Get Dyche in assp

18 Oct 2025 18:44:09
William Still

19 Oct 2025 09:15:24
Problem we have is that they won’t sack vp they want to hold onto him for the championship which I hate saying that’s where we will end up if we have to watch this crap all the time forget dyche he will end up at forest others mentioned won’t touch us and as for ange god who would want him crap or what

18 Oct 2025 17:38:08
This is the list of players who had a decent game today.

Yep. Its blank because each and every one of them was absolutely sh*t.

This is the worst team I've ever seen. No passion, no cohesion, no intent, no idea. All being led by VP who has now spent close to £200m and made us a worse team than last year.

18 Oct 2025 17:57:14
He needs to go NOW.forest have done it.but we wont! his subs are ridiculous.his starting11 is rubbish the players are rubbish.never any urgency to get fwd.hes clueless and is taking us down for definite.after we don't bt burnley nxt wk.he must surely go.i think its been said on here before give coady the job.

18 Oct 2025 18:16:02
Can someone explain to me why we persist JSL who quite clearly is no where near fit and bring tolu on for the last 12 minutes. Poor goalkeeping error and a sad own goal cost us a point, which we probably deserved after the second half. Their seems mo enthusiasm throughout the side, and it's the age old problem of backwards and side to side. Feel VP must go now, but goodness knows who we would replace him with

18 Oct 2025 18:18:05
Get dyche in asap

18 Oct 2025 18:31:52
Just got back in saw the score and then came on here to read peoples opinions of the game and frankly wished I hadn't. There's got to be radical change at this club starting with Shi, Teti and sorry to say VP as this lot are taking us down. Is it the players they've bought, is it the team selection, is it the tactics or is it 5 years of progressive decline that the owners have orchestrated, probably all of the above?

It is an absolute disgrace what they have been doing and this has been both blindingly obvious for years and therefore inevitable. How many now genuinely believe without major change we will stay up beyond this season because this is now the sh*t show that some of us have been predicting for some time.

Fosun need to act NOW as Xmas is way too late but will they? Personally, I now believe Shi has to go, he's clueless as evidenced by his decision making, both he and the equally clueless Fosun are killing this club, why? You cannot run an elite league football club in this way with the owners contributing nothing so spare us the meaningless, meandering interviews Jeff, just do one and take Fosun with you.

18 Oct 2025 19:51:00
I thought we would win today really up for it, sadly I was wrong when we got Victor in I thought he’s been at a lot of clubs but he’s at Wolves now so I’ll back him. His tactics and subs baffle me, he and Fosun need to go, I will always back the team

18 Oct 2025 20:14:57
Ain't going to be nice next home game if this is the performance level next weeks training is going to produce. Where are the goals going to come from? Tactically inept so its either the manager or players cannot perform at this level. This is absolutely relegation form; no imagination, few shots, passing across the park and backwards plus mistakes. Starting to lose some enthusiasm and belief that this set up and players can turn things around.

18 Oct 2025 20:53:53
I’ve been a wolves fan since 1957/8 and I can honestly say with exception the mid 80s under sammy chapman this is the poorest side we have had we don’t look like scoring I went to pre season Celtic v kne we were in trouble it is no good saying team needs time to fell in prem you don’t get time this is all down to owners ????any one not agreeing are living in cloud cuckoo land coyw????

18 Oct 2025 17:21:43
I don’t think Vitor should go, but it is so clear that he’s been sold down the river, and we have simply not invested in players that can come and make a difference straight away. It is so incredibly frustrating to see some of our better place that we do have not have quality around them. Jeff is backed himself into a corner too, so I don’t know what he will do to try and save face, but we simply cannot keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect to have a different outcome. We should not be losing to promoted teams. I am so incredibly disappointed in the ownership as I see wolves crumble before my eyes. I’m usually one of the more positive people on this site and I hope that we can pick up points in the next game and kick on from there but it’s going to be a total grind this season.

18 Oct 2025 17:47:30
I don't believe that for one minute. He's come our and said that every player that been brought into the club since he's been here has been hand picked and approved by him. He's out of his depth. We sacked GON under similar circumstances but at least he had the excuse of playing all of the big clubs in the first 10 games where as VP has made Leeds and Sunderland look like seasoned campaigners.

18 Oct 2025 18:37:45
The team looks like an clueless bunch of individuals picked off the sheet for their individual talents, then told not to use them and try to find someone in the same coloured shirt, because that seems to be the only unifying aspect of the teams VP put out.
He dosnt know his 1st choice team and dosnt seem to see the wrongs he makes. He's cost us points with inexplicable subbing. Today was no better with hoever replacing Doc.
Arias has far more attacking ability I'm sure, larsen dosnt get the ball and I'm afraid dosnt look that committed of late. I don't see gomez and Andre playing for anything but their transfers.
The young lads lopez and rodrigo are under used.
Kriejci and munetsi give it their all and Doc the old pro.
Johnstone has improved but again shows his shortcomings.
Santi goes quietly about his job.
But where are the committed dedicated attitudes we saw in neves moutihino raul etc?
VP dosnt seem to inspire them, Fosun simply pay them.
VP must be held responsible, its ok having pints after points but he's not able to organise a pee up in a brewery it seems, or even organise who would be sitting where.

18 Oct 2025 17:14:53
Wrong selection Wrong set up too late with changes they look like they have no idea and haven't looked like a team together all season

18 Oct 2025 17:37:48
What I was told last Xmas about him not being good enough is coming true sack him now

18 Oct 2025 20:18:04
There's a reason he's had a lot of clubs

18 Oct 2025 16:53:46
Second half was better for us we went to pub
Better entertainment.
Think vp will be sacked Monday.

18 Oct 2025 17:29:29
I hope he's sacked in the dressing room straight after the game and told to make his own way home.

Well done Fosun for giving him that 3 year deal. I hope you're pleased with yet another brilliant decision.

18 Oct 2025 17:42:05
Whem will we ever learn from our mistakes?

18 Oct 2025 15:55:54
Absolute rubbish
Paid £30 to get in ground
No effort at all
Complete shambles.
We have seen enough
Leaving ground going to pub.
Vp I think his time is up
Don't know where we go from here.
Looks like Jeff buying deli ali.

18 Oct 2025 16:25:18
Come on wolves can’t see us getting a result today think it’s time for a change

18 Oct 2025 16:54:47
We're relegated.

18 Oct 2025 16:57:07
What’s gone wrong? Why are we not being told what’s happened behind the scenes? Someone knows something! Wolves forever, but it’s heartbreaking 🐺

18 Oct 2025 16:57:41
Two things need to happen tonight or tomorrow.Shi needs to be removed from his post and Pereira has to be sacked. Club is total garbage throughout.

18 Oct 2025 16:57:56
Surely he's got to go now.
He can't pick his nose
Why would u play docherty whos been injured before jackson.
Then he puts hoover on
Before him
Out out out

18 Oct 2025 17:01:00
Get Ange in!

18 Oct 2025 17:06:06
8 games in and 2 points, Burnley next week, on this performance we can’t score so not likely to win. Think we have to accept now, if things don’t change and quickly we are down. Will be too late for a turnaround by Christmas, shame, but clear that VP is not getting the best out of the players, how much longer will Jeff and Co allow us to fall behind.

18 Oct 2025 17:06:59
We were awful today never looked like scoring at all

18 Oct 2025 17:14:44
Boz I've come to the conclusion that we're not going to get 3 points anytime soon playing like we are. Only listened to commentary but 1st half sounded awful, second, although stepping it up a bit, I never thought we had a chance of scoring a straight goal, and said to me lad Sunderland would break and get the second.
Too much balls across back and middle, we had rodrigo, we had Hugo, Doc appeared to move it in the right direction but then the ball in wasn't there.
Understandably Doc came off but why hoever when jackson was imo the speed and wing we needed.
Tactically we're inept trying to play the way VP wants us to, whatever that is.

18 Oct 2025 17:15:06
Grim day at the Office.
Tactics wrong in 1st half; team selection flawed; powder puff attack and no team spirit.
Apart from that, I am very confident we will stay up.NOT.

18 Oct 2025 17:17:02
We were crap today altogether

18 Oct 2025 17:25:10
That's what happens when you sell a Ferrari and buy a Reliant Robin. Do they even train together? Like a bunch of misfits with no leader. Newcastle must thank their lucky stars Wolves turned down their 50 mill offer for Larsen, never looks like scoring. When you consider the way we ended last season, the close season was the time for change.

18 Oct 2025 17:26:17
Just had a dose of perspective … I was there under Jackett in league 1 and will be there no matter what league we’re in. Getting relegated isn’t the end of the world for us - but it is for Fosun … we will be here long after they’ve gone tail between their legs. I obviously don’t want relegation but to see shi embarrassed in front of his Chinese bosses … it’s very big in their culture … well it’s almost worth it

18 Oct 2025 17:31:34
That's 14 league games in a row that VP has got his tactics wrong. What the he'll are the owners looking to achieve by keeping him in and Shi in post?

18 Oct 2025 18:03:10
I think vp and fosun need to pack there bags need new owners and new manager or the main man should sack vp and shi not a happy wolves fan tonight think we are doomed hate saying it

18 Oct 2025 19:04:34
I'd imagine the various get Ange in comments I've seen on a few threads are people having an immense joke because that's the surest way of confirming relegation.His inept handling of his last two positions makes VP look like Pep.

18 Oct 2025 20:19:43
China OUT! VP OUT!
Where was JSL? He can talk the talk but…
Looks like we’ll swap with the baggies again! 😫

18 Oct 2025 15:43:06
I'm just going to say it as it is. One today's performance and the season so far, we are 100% down. No fight, no idea. We look like rabbits in the headlights. Hopefully the team get a rollicking at HT and show some passion in the 2nd half.

18 Oct 2025 15:57:57
Boring to watch again, just showed highlights we have 1 from a free kick, Sunderland have 6. Big improvement required 2nd half, just can’t see it unfortunately, hope I am wrong.

18 Oct 2025 16:34:22
I agree WS but then I was saying that back in August.
I take it you’re not predicting comfortable mid table anymore then?

18 Oct 2025 16:38:02
The thing is Sunderland haven't been very good and we still can't perform. Absolutely dire. The quicker VP is gone, the better. If we lose, he needs to go TONIGHT.

18 Oct 2025 16:38:43
Have to agree Wandering, you've hit the nail on the head it's the complete lack of ideas that worries me. We look incapable of breaking teams down. Poor qullaity team, poor quality management and poor quality ownership, that's only going to end one way I'm afraid! We simply do not have the requisite quality to compete at this level. Also worth noting how absurdly ridiculous it is ALREADY looking giving VP the extension we did when we hadn't even won a game!
As I've said before the ONLY thing more frustrating than our current points tally is how ENTIRELY predictable all this was! How have we let it get this bad?! Beyond angry right now! 🤬

18 Oct 2025 16:47:42
At least when Derby and Sunderland, who are the lowest points scorers in Premier League history went down, they ar least tried to attack. This clown has set us up to do absolutely nothing in the attacking 3rd.

18 Oct 2025 16:51:04
Been watching whole match we're playing like a league 2 team, I wonder if vp has lost the dressing room tbh.

18 Oct 2025 16:56:26
So the icing on the cake. From OUR corner, Hugo Bueno swings in a ball that sails over every single Wolves player and allow Sunderland to break at speed and score via an embarrassing OG by Krejci.

We are well and truly f*cked.

18 Oct 2025 17:22:00
3GWolf, with the squad we've got, we should finish comfortably in mid table. The problem is that we've got a clown managing them.

18 Oct 2025 17:35:00
Sorry Wandering buddy but that's deluded! Yes VP should be doing better but the ONLY league this team has the quality to finish mid table on is the Championship! We simply do not have enough Prem ready/quality players!

18 Oct 2025 18:17:36
On current form you are correct Bullysboy but on paper, we have 16 full International players who represent the likes of Brazil, Uruguay and Portugal.

The reason we are so poor us down the the managers tactics.

It was the same last season when we looked doomed under GON but a change of leadership steered us clear of trouble. that's what's needed now too.