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17 Feb 2024 19:47:46
WW stands for Wonderful Wolves, and they were that today. The discussions have been what price Neto, my question is what price Gomes. He was magnificent. I'm sure a top six club will come knocking. Next up Sheffield United a team that will try and disrupt at any cost.
1.) 18 Feb 2024 13:00:18
Many of our players will be wanted. Our players need to decide if they want regular play time with Wolves and build something or a potentially only a backup role in a big 6. Think Matheus Nunes with City now. I know I personally would want to play. Wolves need to continue upping contract pay to these main guys so they have less incentive to leave.
2.) 18 Feb 2024 14:08:36
Many of our players may indeed be wanted, however we are in a strong position as most of them have at least 2 years left on their contract so any interested clubs will have to pay top dollar.
3.) 18 Feb 2024 15:14:45
£100 million, Neto.
£80 million Cunha.
£80 million Gomes.
Not a penny less.
4.) 22 Feb 2024 07:47:16
That's over a 1/4 of a billion Lostcity 38 years ago 1986 £65, 000 for Bully and Thommo.
5.) 22 Feb 2024 07:48:55
Ps saying that kilman was it £35, 000 how much he worth now 30 million maybe.
6.) 04 Mar 2024 13:25:28
£80M for Neto is exceptional price for his goal return, £50M if he stays fit for another 10 weeks would be good.
Cunha not worth any more than we paid for him until he shows he can perform over more than a full season
Gomes is going to be worth £50+ if he develops as much as he has done already, maybe £80 one day but not currently
Biggest job this summer is turning some of the loanees into a pot of gold, in Matt we trust
7.) 04 Mar 2024 15:21:57
Changing the subject, I heard Mr Lineker state again that Wolves have not scored from outside the box, I seem to remember a certain Tommy Doyle scoring a belter against Brentford from well outside the box. Admittedly it was a cup game but a goal is a goal. I'm sure that when Lineker played and totted up his goal tally for a season he included all cup and league games.
24 Aug 2023 20:31:15
I'm a New Zealander and have followed Wolves for decades I'm 75 years old, my source for Wolves rumours is via Wolves Rumours/Banter and Express Star. Can someone please clarify where Wolves currently stand. Are Fosun selling is Jeff Shi still involved, are Wolves selling players because of FFP.
1.) 24 Aug 2023 20:56:49
The only honest answer is that no-one really knows what the status of the club is. Only time will tell.
2.) 24 Aug 2023 21:17:18
No-one knows for sure it's all speculation but the rumours are gaining more traction by the day, I believe we are up for sale based on what i'm seeing, but ofcourse that isn't a dead cert it is just my belief.
3.) 24 Aug 2023 22:16:24
Yes LindsayB, someone can answer your question. That someone is Jeff Shi, but he won’t. You could try giving him a call to express your displeasure and you can tell him I’m not happy either. Better you divert your energies to supporting the All Blacks!
4.) 24 Aug 2023 22:52:10
Not a rugby fan but thank you for your post.
5.) 25 Aug 2023 04:16:24
has fans are saying all rumour's at the moment most of us think something is going on why sell players making the team weak and not replacing them not even loan players its getting very toxic with the fans forsun/jeff shi can only blame themselves
6.) 25 Aug 2023 06:47:50
Not a rugby fan? Strewth LindsayB, be careful saying that or the Kiwi’s will revoke your citizenship!
7.) 25 Aug 2023 10:10:48
I understand your point Rated but what is it you're seeing that makes you believe we are up for sale? Expressions of interest from qualified buyers? Consortiums being put together? There is zilch!
Fosun are not mugs. We are not dealing with an entity like the Bhatti Brothers here. If Fosun ever want to sell, they will very publicly appoint a merchant bank to run the whole process and to achieve the maximum sale price possible. The Premier League will be involved in vetting a number of potential buyers. When Fosun bought us in 2016 they were just one of a large number of bidders.
There is not a single piece of concrete evidence that we are for sale, just fans reporting and repeating rumours.
8.) 25 Aug 2023 11:49:05
Deep Throat there are posters on other sites who have been heavily involved in takeovers. There view is what Fosun are currently doing indicates a takeover or preparation for one.That is my experience as well.
As for using a Merchant bank is that what Morgan did?
9.) 25 Aug 2023 13:32:44
Wittonian, so you're just repeating 'views' of other posters! My view is what Fosun are currently doing is.running a football club.nothing more, nothing less.
The sale from Morgan to Fosun in 2016 took such a long time that Lopetegui reneged on his agreement to coach Wolves then.
A £400mil sale in the Premier League today is a totally different animal to a £30mil sale in the Championship in 2016. Fosun would appoint a specialist merchant bank to vet the finances and credibility of every interested party, of which there would be many.
10.) 25 Aug 2023 14:30:04
Get what you're saying Deep mate, it's just my beliefs as so many rumours about it on the level I saw when Morgan sold us to Fosun, it is just a case of wait and see what happens.
11.) 25 Aug 2023 14:33:48
Well said Deep Throat.
12.) 25 Aug 2023 15:32:48
Good thread. I have to be honest here the more I look at it the more I think Deep is (saddly:) absolutely right! And Wit I wouldn't beleive a word those posters say about 'being heavily involved in take overs' cause there's absolutely nothing to show there's any truth in it (basically the same as all the idk stuff which is almost always trolls/fake)!
I think what is more interesting is how desperate we all seem to be to WANT to believe that we are up for sale (and yes I very much include myself in that so not pointing fingers)! What does it say about Fosuns ownership that we've all snow balled along with this sale rumour?! When as Deep quite rightly says there's not a single shred of genuine news to actually back said rumour?! Seems like a pretty damming review of Fosuns work that we are all seemingly desperate to see them gone right now?! I actually think their biggest mistake right now (and there seem to be many) is the complete lack of PR! This level of discontent from the fans is almost entirely because Jeffs lost all credibility and all we have had to explain the current crisis our club seems to be in is a mealy mouthed letter (which most of us wouldn't wipe something with:)!
Deep is right though, when you look at it openly there is not a single piece of GENUINE news that suggests we are being sold! Saddly guys I think we are all wishful thinking and that's the REAL tragedy to this story! Jeff needs to get this house in order else (as I predicted before) we will start to see banners at games and I doubt Fosun will like um much! COYW ?
13.) 25 Aug 2023 15:37:00
Deep - strongly suspect that everything you say in the 2 posts in the thread above is correct particularly regarding the manner in which Fosun would act.
However far from certain re the £400m. Sadly whilst we were def worth that and more in the aftermath of Seville today I fear that ship has more than sailed.
If we go down and that has to be possible ( I still think we have enough to survive although rumours of further sales are scary!) the value of the club would plummet as most of the squad would have to be sold - simply can't afford the amort let alone the wages - and it is quite possible that we would struggle in the Championship both on and off the pitch.
Any buyer will be aware of that.
Note also that the underlying financial position - (the FFP issue) is v v weak.
Although we have lots of posters saying there can't be a problem or that the sale of Neves will have solved it (Along with the other sales this summer it presumably has for this year, (23/24) but obviously not next (24/25) year!) I'm far from certain that is the case.
Look at the latest accounts and extrapolate.
Turnover if we stay in the Prem is going nowhere ( if we get relegated it plummets)
But our principal costs wages and amorts currently vastly exceed turnover even before we buy a pint of milk a football or turn on the lights.
Those amorts and wages are reasonably easy to project given you know the tranfer dealings and the new contracts awarded.
Although it may not feel it we have made lots of "transfers in" recently the guys in Jan plus Cunha and Traore this summer.
plus of course "settled" with two management teams!
Consequently I thnk we are probably losing circa 60-70m a year pre players sales for the next couple of years until the amorts/contracts start to unwind in the summer of 2025.
Buyers will also be aware of that!
We have overspent massively and badly under Shi since Seville and the chickens are coming home to roost!
thanks Jeff!
14.) 25 Aug 2023 16:21:38
When Morgan sold, everybody new he was selling.
15.) 25 Aug 2023 16:25:09
I get what everyone is saying but there's not a single piece of evidence out there that we are for sale. Not even clickbait from a dodgy copycat football site. Just beliefs, views and hunches etc. Maybe just wishful thinking?
Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE a sale to go though. When Morgan sold us in 2016 he fired the starting pistol on the process and I think Moxey said they had about 15 credible bidders amongst the timewasters.
16.) 25 Aug 2023 17:14:51
This summer could all be down to ffp but not how people are expecting. We all know you are allowed to make 105 million loss over 3 years if it is underwritten by the owners. Where as if the owners won’t underwrite the loss it is only 15 million. So it could be fosun realigning us to be self funding luke they said we had to be all along.
17.) 25 Aug 2023 17:27:30
There are opinions coming from deep within Molineux that we are for sale (rumours, granted). They are accompanied by concerns over the financial health of Fosun Int.
Fosun stock rise
As for public sale - It is unlikely Fosun would publicly market the club, as it would be unnerving for their financial partners / investors. Only once a suitor is found, the details will start to emerge.
Unsettling as it may be, sale is our best hope for both investment and stability. The apparent erratic management style can’t be endured for much longer without dire consequences - the best players leave, the club exits the premier. Those of us who remember the early 80’s know just how low the mighty can fall.
18.) 26 Aug 2023 07:43:01
Deep Throat read what I said please. I also mentioned my experience. Other posters elsewhere with great experience of takeovers are saying the same thing.
Lopetegui turned us down because he took the Spain job.
19.) 26 Aug 2023 13:01:20
This is what I don’t understand yes we’re selling players like hot dogs, but why aren’t we getting a few loan players through the door?
20.) 26 Aug 2023 14:05:48
That's the part none of us can understand Wolfie. When you break it down if we were doing that there wouldn't be half of this sale talk. Cause the way we are running things defies logic, so peeps are trying to find logic with theories. Entirely understandable in the vacuum that is our current PR dept! ?
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02 Dec 2024 03:23:28
If ONeil goes and its likely, the timing would not help the new incumbent. The right time to sack ONeill would have been when the international break was on. It would have allowed the new coach some time to get to know the players.
1.) 02 Dec 2024 09:19:44
While I can agree with that point of view lindsay I do wonder that if carrying on any longer would only be to our detriment. Sure we could go to Everton on Wed and come back with 3 points having scored 3 but would we then crumble to west ham etc? We've surely given GON the chances and his systems are so unreliable they don't work.
We need some back bone now, by that I mean resolve in our belief and confidence in the players minds. I think GON, no matter his personality and affection, is in danger of losing the dressing room and certainly the fans.
So perhaps a change sooner rather than later maybe desirable, even if painful for some.
30 Nov 2024 19:55:19
Whats next.Sack ONeill and bring in who.Is there a decent manager/coach wanting to come to this shambolic club. Scoring goals isn't a problem, conceding goals is.
1.) 30 Nov 2024 21:02:44
Moyes he is interested too.
2.) 30 Nov 2024 21:07:38
On a positive note today, silva scored his fifth of the season and the winner against Barca. We might actually get a decent price for him.
3.) 30 Nov 2024 22:33:35
Nice one Goat but I don't think you'll find too many glasses half full today.
As for a new Manager I understand someone call Julien Lopetegui might be available soon, apparently they replaced Moyes with him, so he must be better, lol.
4.) 01 Dec 2024 07:48:28
Moyes or potter quick
5.) 01 Dec 2024 10:12:48
Why is our defence so poor? What is the coaching staff covering during training sessions?
Apart from Joao Gomes, Guedes and Strand Larsen, we were poor.
Cunhas performance looked like he had read all the news about him over the last week and he believed his own hype. Toti was awful and so was Sa.
02 Nov 2024 20:36:54
Can't beat a top six team, can't beat a bottom six team, can't defend a lead, can't defend. Doom and gloom I'm afraid.
1.) 02 Nov 2024 21:08:50
The facts are 6 points from the last available 60.
Average points per game this season: 0.3
If we keep this up, we're on course for 11 points.
I don't buy this 'We've had to play the top half of the table' nonsense. Last season we took 3 points from Man City and Chelsea at home and drew with Newcastle and Villa. We don't look capable of winning.
2.) 02 Nov 2024 21:35:41
Wandering Star. I've been saying the same for weeks.
3.) 02 Nov 2024 21:44:27
At this rate it will be less than 11 points
Much less
We may even have a record lowest points total ever
4.) 02 Nov 2024 22:20:19
Totally agree with your last paragraph Wandering, in truth, we've fallen off a cliff. Is it the Coach or is it the players? not sure, but sadly it will take a change of Manager to find out.
Those stats are truly shocking but as you point out this has been a problem for sometime now. Beggars belief, actually.
5.) 02 Nov 2024 22:22:56
Surely no one can defend GON now?
I'm hoping to wake up in the morning to find he and his team have been relieved of their posts. We need another Manager/Coach in urgently. Someone who can organise us as a unit.
6.) 02 Nov 2024 23:17:49
Some might insist that the blame lies solely at Fosuns door but it is GON and his team of coaches that conduct the training, tactics and strategy all week, every week. Not Jeff Shi, Matt Hobbs or anyone else.
Fosuns big mistake in this debacle is the fact that they have relieved O'Neil of his duties.
7.) 03 Nov 2024 00:06:24
How many people here can say the answer to our problem is to start Sarabia? It’s just pot luck management now. 6 points from 60 and still in a job is unbelievable.
8.) 03 Nov 2024 00:09:50
And RAN strolls about now like he couldn’t care less
12 May 2024 00:15:05
The season is all but over, I would like to share my memories.Firstly retaining premier league status after the preseason issues having to bring in a new head coach days before the kickoff. League double against Spurs and Chelsea, Cunha hattrick against Chelsea. What could have been but for some poor VAR decisions, just get rid of it. As some supporters have stated It's not football anymore. Let's get back to the game we all love. See you all next season.Go the Wolves.
1.) 12 May 2024 08:09:28
Sums it up LindsyB other than to add my prediction of an 8th place finish did not age well. Apart from the absurdity of this season on the pitch it's what's happening off it that's also of interest.
We've heard from a couple of sources now that Wolves want to be self sufficient from a transfer perspective. This is of course a policy of sell to buy, the official line being that any money coming into the club will be spent on ground improvements.
Does this mean Fosun can't or won't fund both or in truth, either. I know they had a dodgy spell a couple of years ago but I have little knowledge of their current situation. What I do know is things have seemingly gone very quiet over there by comparison with their early years. How's the fashion line and store doing over there, how's offshore fan development going and so on.
Perhaps we need a state of play report to help everyone understand our situation, I won't hold my breath. For me, however, it's also about how the rules are manipulated to suit certain teams, how games are officiated if you like.
I'll stick to my plan, one more season to see if things improve, if not, what's the point? Football has become all about the £ and not the ⚽, what's next a quick advert while we wait for VAR?
2.) 12 May 2024 10:27:00
It's a sad but very true possibility longmynd. I'll never desert the wolves, but I maybe looking for results rather than wasting my cash on the various tv channels. Listening to wolves radio is sometimes more informative.
But I'll see where the summer takes us and what new 'improvements' are to be made to VAR and rules to fit.
It's sad that at the end of the day we're talking of the off field activity and not the performances on, but that's the way it's going.
3.) 12 May 2024 11:34:53
'The beautiful game'.RIP.
4.) 12 May 2024 13:16:56
Is it just me or does anyone else see more and more what I call ‘foul throws’ not given e.g. the thrower not starting with the ball behind their head and throwing it downwards quickly?
{Ed007's Note - Things like that annoy me mate but my pet hate is a player just shielding the ball to let it run out, it's obstruction and should be punished.}
5.) 12 May 2024 15:22:46
Agreed!
{Ed007's Note - ??
6.) 12 May 2024 20:05:42
At the start of the season we were, apparently, certs for relegation. We have had no such stress as it happens, even with a small squad and a vast list of injuries. There have been some great results to celebrate, and we had a decent run in the cup. I think the fact that we overperformed in the first 2 thirds of the season has clouded our memory of just how bad things were when JLo left. I can remember posts on here stating that it would take "years" for us to get back to "Seville" levels. Do you know what, it probably still will. So let's have a bit of faith and be thankful that those years are likely, with the steadier hands who've been introduced, to be spent in mid table obscurity, rather than on the precipice of relegation.
7.) 12 May 2024 20:37:59
Absolutely exactly how I feel Mattybacc.
8.) 12 May 2024 20:40:59
My pet hate is the goalies who catch a harmless ball, clutch it to their chest and drop to the ground. They should be booked for time wasting, second offence and a red card. Goalkeepers get far too much protection, just look at Man Utd. keeper he gets away with foul play every game. Yet anyone challenges him for crosses he falls down like he's been shot. He gets the foul every time, mind you be is Man U. so always right.
9.) 13 May 2024 18:07:45
How can you tell a player where he can run and how fast?
10 May 2024 11:00:22
How do you think Wolves will line up on Saturday. Nothing to lose, Does O'Neill give some youngsters a run or field his strongest eleven. Palace have improved under their new coach so it won't be easy.
1.) 10 May 2024 11:10:40
I'd say he'd like a strong finish as it is the last game of the season at The Molineux.
2.) 10 May 2024 19:07:45
I think after last week's result and this being our last home game I think he'll go with our strongest 11, hopefully for a home win.
3.) 11 May 2024 06:49:58
Strongest possible of course. Each finishing position is worth millions and if we lose to Palace there's every chance they'll finish the season above us. The "youngsters " have had plenty of games in recent weeks!
4.) 11 May 2024 08:12:29
Old Wulf spot on.
16 Apr 2024 02:04:17
I wonder if Man City Will consider a player exchange with Nunez returning.
24 Aug 2023 22:52:10
Not a rugby fan but thank you for your post.
07 Mar 2023 01:25:38
Must of had an off day.