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12 Sep 2025 09:57:05
See all the experts have predicted a thrashing again for us maybe we can prove em wrong again coyw
1.) 12 Sep 2025 11:18:28
Would love us to go there and win B hill wolf. Would kick start things and improve confidence, not seen anything regarding the fitness of JSL, be a very interesting team selection, will Toti remain captain?
2.) 12 Sep 2025 11:59:20
JSL is rated 50/50
Wissa is out for Newcastle.
3.) 12 Sep 2025 13:03:13
Confidence is my concern, newcastles ground and home support can knock it out of you even if your full of it.
Given we've been playing as individuals and with players new to the prem it may prove very difficult, but I'm hoping we might find a bond in it all and an early goal (or preferably 2) would change things immensely.
Can we muster that? Yes, I think we can no matter how ugly, so I'm staying hopeful, maybe 3-2, but I'll be saying my prayers tonight. COYW
4.) 12 Sep 2025 13:54:09
JSL is out injured.
5.) 12 Sep 2025 15:14:12
Thought this maybe the case as seemed quiet, Tolu to start then, Joao, Andre, Sa who else do people expect to start?
6.) 12 Sep 2025 16:07:35
Bully, King John and Geoff Palmer have been spotted around the club recently.
7.) 12 Sep 2025 16:46:50
Don’t tell Jeff Ron, he get them playing, as long as it doesn’t cost too much of course.
8.) 12 Sep 2025 21:05:57
Id take bully to start over hwang even now???
19 Jul 2025 08:34:11
Morning everyone let's see what happens maybe their will be a few surprises in store
1.) 19 Jul 2025 10:37:20
B hill wolf yeah like we might sign someone.
2.) 19 Jul 2025 11:09:24
Don't be such a pessamist shada
3.) 19 Jul 2025 11:30:31
B hill wolf I'm always the optimist but you follow Wolves it's Quite hard as everyone knows with the way they do business.
13 Jul 2025 21:18:13
Not at all abbeywolf lots to sort in transfers with different organizations think about it especially if they are coming from south america
1.) 14 Jul 2025 07:55:50
I'm taking your points B Hill, and indeed longmynds below, non of us know. But I would have thought that wheels must be in motion now, and that newcomers would need to be integrated soon.
Maybe it's the pessimism in me, maybe it's the clickbaits which I'd vowed to ignore, but all I see is players targeted then said players going elsewhere or staying, (maybe Aria is a positive tho), and then 'wolves' putting low values on key players when there's obviously a market place for them.
Wolves being the right club for a player may simply be a stepping stone for them into the prem, the player being right for the club a means for Fosun to turn a profit.
We the paying fans are simply facilitating both, and told not to have high expectations.
So how about the right players for VP and retaining the players he needs to give us some hope.? Not youngsters learning their way, not players to be sold on,
but for a team, maybe un fashionable, to play football, to win games, to succeed and leave memories etched in our minds.
Yea yea yea it's money, it's business, it's balancing the books and so on I hear some of you say, but it ain't football as a sport anymore sadly.
That's today's Monday moan over.
2.) 14 Jul 2025 08:49:55
Abbey there is this odd idea that it is financially a good idea to sell players for a profit.
That is axiomatically wrong!
Selling players means winning less matches. Fact since Wolves started this strategy Wolves have dropped from 7th, European football and cup runs to where they are now and of course potentially next season relegation to the Championship.
This has a catastrophic impact on finances. Fact Wolves audited accounts show that the club has gone from a pre player sales profit - covid adjusted - of over £10m in 2020 i.e. the Seville season to massive losses in each of the last 3 seasons.
Just to amuse you Chelsea, who don't sell players to make money, made nearly 66% of Wolves annual turnover from their pre season tour of America this summer.
Before anyone says that is not relevant as somehow Chelsea are different and spent their money before the rules came in to establish a position, remember the comparison I gave with numerous other"small" teams. Brentford for example made over £230m (YES £230M!) more than Wolves in the last 3 seasons pre player sales.
Wolves sell players to cover that shortfall.
How about running the club competently, i.e. as well as Brentford, not having that shortfall, keeping the players, winning games and becoming incredibly profitable and successful?
Now that is a good idea isn't it?
{Ed001's Note - Chelsea do sell players to make money, their whole business model is based on that principle actually.}
3.) 14 Jul 2025 11:09:20
Ed, it's well known that the Chelsea academy in particular is mainly a factory, in effect churning out 'goods' for resale.
{Ed001's Note - not just that, the reason why they have always got so many players out on loan is to develop them for profit.}
4.) 14 Jul 2025 11:19:59
TFIOG1,
There's are numerous reasons for Wolves slump in recent seasons and it's not solely down to selling your best players. Jota (may he rest in peace). Great player bought for £13-15 Mill then sold for £45. 3x what we paid! How do you stop young ambitious players going to a top club. Yes you can but some like MC go on strike, or just become disgruntled with the club and run their contract down. IMO better to sell them at their peak and get maximum profit. Unfortunately in this case the money was not spent wisely Guedes, Fabio and Semado. I think combined ~ £100 Million. I can't remember to many moaning when this sort of money was being spent 2/3 of it wasted. You also fail to include Raul's injury which has a massive impact on us and one which neither he or us fully recovered from. You also mentioned prolonged cup runs. Let me remind you that one of our supposed better players cost us our cup run last season.
In short our problems have not just been about selling our better players because that will and is going to happen especially now that it's such big business. It's as much about recruitment and unfortunately Managers post NES have been poor despite some having let's say decent credentials. They couldn't make it in this league.
What we need is what Nuno created and what VP is trying to get back. Young, Hungry ambitious players who don't need to cost a fortune, want to play in the PL, want to play for Wolves even if's a stepping stone. It really is a long term win-win. It's vitally important to get the right players in. Temperament, attitude and ability. It's simply no good buying on ability alone or perceived ability i.e. Fabio and Guedes. I honestly believe that these bad purchases and maybe a couple of others in conjunction with the loss of Raul was our downfall. Others may come on a criticise Fosun's ambitions and I've seen posters on here compared us or our owners to the Forest owner for example. Aren't Forest selling their best players. Haven't Brentford lost their Manager. Aren't Villa now in a difficult situation re PSR?
You have 20 clubs all chasing those top spots and much better IMO to build slowly and without putting us in massive debt or breaching the rules. Eventually with the right recruitment the team will grow again as we did under Nuno and success will follow. Just throwing money at it doesn't guarantee success. WHU, Spurs, MUFC.
5.) 14 Jul 2025 10:45:15
TFIG, I think, you are with me on my attempted point, which was meant to be recruit players to mould into a team, a team who want to play for each other, the manager and the club. Not see us as an opportunity to earn a lucrative move.
Equally the owners should support that idea of running a club.
Jim Smith did this with Oxford United, a small club, relatively small attendances and he led them into the 1st Division as was. The unknowns at the time, the cast offs that were also won the milk cup at wembly, a remarkable feat also beating the likes of man u and arsenal. Certain players like Aldridge etc (acquired from newport) Went on to greater things of course. A certain Dean Saunders also part of his team, and oxford sank back down.But for those times those memories it was fantastic.
Robert maxwell was the owner, I'm sure you'll know of him, and maybe the business 'model didn't benefit the club in football investments. The Manor ground was sold and oxford have fought their way back to the championship playing at the 3 sided kassam stadium, more geared to community activity in bowls alleys and cinemas. With the councils help they are now planning to move to a new build stadium with better infrastructure to the north and just outside the city.
But I digress, success on the field is paramount and in the long term success breed success, we need committed players, dedicated players who and when can be sold on with hopefully our own youth squads pushing new talent through.
Prem football as been ruined, at for the season coming wrre not alone at fearing relegation. W ham, Palace Brentford fans etc seem to be wondering if its going to be worth it given the devicde between the affluent clubs and the rest. Business and commercial activities have ruined the game.
I feel the championship will provide far more entertainment and ambition, although Sky have now got their claws into that division now dictating KO times etc.
Please get the money makers out of the clubs, get football run by football minded people.
6.) 14 Jul 2025 11:50:46
All clubs sell players to make money but thanks to Fosuns attitude towards infrastructure and income generating investment Wolves literally have to sell off their best every year to keep the doors open, so need to price them to sell.
In recent years, therefore, a downward spiral in the League and a downward spiral in the bank.
Great plan.
7.) 14 Jul 2025 17:55:13
Ed - having looked at Chelsea's accounts it is undeniable that they make ferocious amounts of money from selling players.
However my point, which is valid, is that unlike Wolves they rarely sell first choice players. As "Deep" points out, they sell players bought/developed that are simply surplus to requirements.
How they hoover up so much young talent to develop/on-sell is of course another matter for debate. Wolves and all of the non "big" sides regularly lose young talent to the big clubs for pennies, totally within the current rules, and then other "small" teams buy them back for massive fees a few years later.
In 24/25 Chelsea made over £200m in transfer fees, (presumably largely profit), without selling anyone who would have been considered a first choice player, (Gallagher in fact probably being the only one even in the match day squads).
However it is worth noting that even after acknowledging the vast profit element of your point Chelsea in fact don't sell anywhere near enough players to meet the rules.
It is only two somewhat "interesting" transactions over the last two years that has kept them from blowing PSR out of the water.
Selling a Hotel and the Ladies football team to basically themselves for a profit of over £275m.
Blacksford - lots of points in your post. To address just a few:
1) Slump? Surprised to see you write this. Surely you're not acknowledging that not everything is perfect?
2) How do you keep good players - become a good club. Do you think players would have wanted to leave if, as they could/should have been had they kept, as I suggested, the top players, Nuno and Wolves were European regulars at the top of the table.
3) Wolves should buy wisely - yes, although you are being very harsh on Wolves, who after a mad period post Seville, have recruited fairly well (Andre, JSL, Cunha, Gomes, Emmanuel etc etc).
4) People didn't complain when Wolves bought Fabio and Guedes - read my posts of the time. They were in the "Mad" period post Seville and were obviously bad signings!
5) Jimenez - of course but sadly injuries happen.
6) Poor managers - To be fair it is hard to tell as the club kept selling the team out from under them.
7) win win scenario - yes shame Jeff destroyed it!
8) Fabio/ Guedes and Jimenez - see above.
9) Build slowly without massive debt - Yes it's a shame Wolves are doing the opposite?
10) Throwing money at it doesn't g'tee success - agreed but sucking cash out g'tees failure.
With Wandering posting a critical post of the club the other day as well, are we in danger of seeing you both on the "dark" side?
8.) 14 Jul 2025 18:06:41
Alongside this just read on the site Football 365 Wolves net spend over the past 5 years is £6m, Chelsea £837m!
9.) 14 Jul 2025 18:16:19
Sorry messed up Wolves didn't have a net spend of £6m. Astonishingly Wolves received £6m!
10.) 14 Jul 2025 21:28:38
London must be a big draw for young talented players though TFIOG not just from a football perspective. That said Chelsea have been doing this for a number of years now so must be doing a lot of things well.
11.) 15 Jul 2025 09:13:09
Arnt they being fined a wad by UEFA for non compliance with the rules tho? ED what is the fine for exactly?
13 Jul 2025 18:52:32
Not at all they must be right
For the club
And player
1.) 13 Jul 2025 19:27:04
What are you implying B Hill?, welcome by the way, that wolves isn't a club they want to come to? That our recruitment and pay dosnt come up to expectations? Or that we've targets to talk to that havnt been approached yet for whatever reason? because someone must have some idea and someone must know why the right player for the club hasn't been identified.
2.) 13 Jul 2025 21:12:43
Not what you are thinking lots of things to sort before anything can happen think about it
3.) 13 Jul 2025 21:31:36
Let's be honest, no one outside of the newly assembled recruitment team have a clue about what's really going on and who we are even likely to sign. The fans, the media, the pundits and those who claim to be 'in the know', it's all guesswork, imo.
As for players who are right for the club, we've sold plenty of those, many too cheaply and frankly still are. Still Liam Keen has said that 'the penny has dropped with Fosun', but for me, the juries still out on that one.
13 Jul 2025 14:19:11
New poster bet some of you guys are having a great time at the moment plenty to grump about what doi want good signings or will anyone do
1.) 13 Jul 2025 18:23:27
Welcome to the site B hill, are you implying that good signings take longer or have I misunderstood?
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24 Oct 2025 14:48:05
How about so you win again
19 Oct 2025 18:33:14
What do you suggest Ron the millions of pounds that some clubs are in debt we all know what is happening but don't you think that the poor on field management is also to blame with very poor tactics inadequate substitutions poor team selection we all know about the players we've lost but where would we be without Fosun mid table champion ship maybe worse there were quite a few thousand of still cheering yesterday were you one of us or do you become obsessed about getting Fosun out if they go you might regret who does take over do you want to go into admin again
18 Oct 2025 17:37:48
What I was told last Xmas about him not being good enough is coming true sack him now
11 Oct 2025 09:02:29
WFM must be a baggies fan the way you talk about free agents that's mostly what they get
06 Oct 2025 12:23:32
We will have to wait and see but do you think that there are three teams worse than us