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11 Jul 2026 16:53:41
Some reports saying that Wolves have turned down an offer from Fiorentina for Tolu and the player himself has rejected a loan move to Trabzonspor.
24 Jun 2026 20:44:29
Fiorentina are reportedly in talks to sign Hugo Bueno.
1.) 25 Jun 2026 12:09:57
Cozier-Duberry and Arrey-Mbi spent 3 years in a British club before the age of 21.
So both are home grown.
2.) 25 Jun 2026 17:09:59
Where are you seeing that exactly Fosun? Cause from I can see Arrey Mbi hasn't even kicked a ball in England?
3.) 25 Jun 2026 17:59:38
Youth teams.
4.) 25 Jun 2026 19:14:29
He did spend some time in English youth teams (he had 5 games for our U18), but not enough continually to qualify as homegrown, I'm afraid.
5.) 25 Jun 2026 23:04:13
Played for Norwich and Chelsea for the minimum 3 years before 21 years of age.
Homegrown.
6.) 25 Jun 2026 23:36:23
But he moved to Bayern when he was 16, and the clock only starts ticking from 15, I'm afraid. I suspect this is all academic, frankly, as Arsenal were after him six months ago. Either way, he moved to Germany at 16 so wouldn't be classified as homegrown.
7.) 26 Jun 2026 09:14:13
It's a bit of a jump from 'he has never kicked a ball in England' to 'the rules start at 16'.
So, what's an academy graduate under these rules you have made up?
If they have played in an FA or FAW club for 3 years before 21, they are classed as homegrown.
The whole point of the scheme was to attract more clubs to play youngsters. In your scheme, clubs would stop playing them, as they wouldn't be homegrown.
8.) 26 Jun 2026 12:01:49
This is an interesting point.
My research on the internet is sadly somewhat contradictory.
The direct question - is Bright Arrey-Mbi "homegrown"? - elicits the answer "yes!" as he spent 5 years at Chelsea from 11 -16 thus meeting the 3 years before 21 rule
But the question -"how young do you have to be to start your qualifying process? " - elicits the answer 15 so he would fail to meet the rule having moved to Germany a mere 1 year later.
Ed any clarity??
{Ed001's Note - I thought it started counting from 15, so between the ages of 15-21. That was how it was in the past, but they do have a habit of changing regulations fairly often. However, I have not heard of any change in this reg.}
9.) 26 Jun 2026 12:49:45
So what is Jude Bellingham? He only spent one season in the EFL before moving to Dortmund.
Homegrown or not homegrown?
The rule is to stop players being signed from overseas, not to stop homegrown youngsters from playing.
If a player has played in an FA or FAW academy as kids, they are homegrown.
Otherwise, there would be no point in having an academy. Just sweep up as much good talent at 15, then keep them for 3 years.
{Ed001's Note - he is not homegrown for an English side.}
10.) 26 Jun 2026 11:26:55
F2ndP do you ever admit you are wrong? lol.
11.) 26 Jun 2026 14:14:27
Haha, it's a fair point. What, buddy? And I wouldn't mind him never accepting it if he wasn't wrong so often. ?
I haven't made the rules up, FP2G. The FA have, and you seem to be missing the fundamental point here. It's about when a player is officially registered for a club, which I suspect can only happen when they sign their first proper contract, which usually happens just before their 16th birthday so as to kick in once they come of age. Hence the rules needing to be from 15-21. Ironically, the one thing you finally got right, you did so by accident. There are, in fact, many clubs that have, and are, massively scaling back their academies because, like you say, for smaller clubs it often doesn't pay for itself.
Look at us, we just bought through a 15-year-old keeper who was supposed to be the best of his generation; only problem is he's gone and signed for Liverpool because that's what happens. Just like we did to Rochdale with Mane.
Also, FYI, I stand by what I said, because outside of youth team footy the guy has never played in a full first team match in England, much less the years you seem to be claiming, despite him signing for Bayern in 2019 (when he was 16).
Yet again, though, I suppose it's everyone else in the wrong, though, eh, just like when we were about to sign Cardoso, you know the 59-year-old scout your mate told you we were signing at FB. ?
12.) 26 Jun 2026 15:46:29
It's actually a bigger issue than whether I get something right or wrong.
It shows that clubs don't invest in their academies, as they won't be homegrown.
The big clubs hold on to players for longer periods, then sell, but the development of the player is halted.
Harvey Elliott and McAtee are great examples where they could have been playing more football but were held on to longer than they needed to be for this homegrown rule.
With the rule starting at 15, there is no benefit to having an academy other than if you are a big club for pure profit.
{Ed001's Note - Elliott? You are wrong again. Elliott was at Fulham and had the choice to go pretty much anywhere, was offered a deal at Real Madrid for instance, but chose Liverpool because he is a fan of the club. Klopp loved him and has said since leaving that one of his biggest regrets is not using Elliott more, which is in part due to a couple of major injuries he suffered. It was nothing to do with homegrown rules, Klopp wanted to keep him and he wanted to stay. The issue is more that it encourages a trade in children, in order to get them into clubs before the age of 18, so they can become homegrown.}
13.) 26 Jun 2026 16:44:53
Speaking of Harvey Elliott, I can't believe that lad has sat out almost a whole EPL season, but the way Villa have done it, you can't fault the manager's decisions. Surely that's going to affect his future? Unless, of course, he has been on loan and I never noticed. I don't keep up too much these days. It gives me a headache.
14.) 26 Jun 2026 15:35:56
Ed - do you have any clarity on this?
My research is not conclusive.
As 2ndgen says he did play for some 5 years for Chelsea before he was 21 so in theory he is "homegrown" and some sites do indeed state that he is.
However other sites, as BB identifies, say that only years after the age of 15 count and he played for Chelsea from 11 to 16 i.e. only 1 year after 15 and so he does not qualify?
{Ed001's Note - I have already said, it is between the ages of 15-21 so Bellingham would not be homegrown: "UEFA defines locally-trained or 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21." That is the sentence from the UEFA regs.}
15.) 26 Jun 2026 19:16:08
Well, it's defo been an interesting debate, gents, but regardless of that I still don't think we have a cat in hell's chance of signing Arrey Mbi, sadly. I would love to be wrong, but he seems to be well rated by a number of far bigger clubs. ?
16.) 26 Jun 2026 22:26:39
Apologies Ed. Resent the post as i thought I had pressed the wrong button (you do things like that at my age) and thus not sent the first one
Appreciate your response.
{Ed001's Note - no worries.}
31 Jan 2026 22:02:17
Jorgen Strand Larsen’s agent Tore Pedersen has said at present he’d put “money on Strand Larsen being a Wolves player” past Monday’s deadline.
I guess the other teams must have seen him play and decided he isn't very good.
1.) 01 Feb 2026 11:14:56
Might be a negotiating tactic.might not be!
2.) 01 Feb 2026 14:00:50
He’s of lost his money then ? just accepted a 43 million pound plus 5 million in add ons
3.) 01 Feb 2026 14:16:19
Express and Star reporting Wolves have accepted an offer from Crystal Palace for JSL, £43m + £5m in add-ons.
Based on this season, we got the better deal and I don't think we'd get more than that in the summer.
Just hope the money goes back into the team before August.
22 Dec 2025 19:43:40
Current rumours regarding our January incomings:
Kalvin Phillips (Man City)
Terem Moffi (Nice)
Kaio Jorge (Cruzeiro)
Adama Traore (Fulham)
Looks like the club are looking to cash in on JSL and either Andre or Gomes in readiness for relegation.
1.) 22 Dec 2025 22:05:37
Mr Blobby, The Flash and Merlin are also available.
Oh and if we can find a goalie called Jesus that would be great as I see signs everywhere that proclaims ‘Jesus Saves’!
2.) 22 Dec 2025 22:31:41
Well I’m sure we’ll be able to take our pick of players in January. There’s bound to be loads queuing up to sign for us. Talk about a buyers market. Yes we definitely hold all the cards when it comes to signing players this window.
Can’t wait. ?
3.) 22 Dec 2025 20:32:00
They'll be bringing these guys in during the January window.?
BBC article
4.) 23 Dec 2025 03:20:33
Don't want Adama nowhere near us, he couldn't wait to go before.
5.) 23 Dec 2025 04:53:24
Made me smile Arddunby ?
6.) 23 Dec 2025 07:20:55
Realistcally Wolves MUST sell their most valuable players in January or risk their values dropping once relegation is confirmed and that is getting closer with every game.
Bring in bench warmers or squad players to see the season out until the Summer when serious signings can be made with the money obtained.
That will mean Joao Gomes, Andre, Larsen and Arias being sold and Krejci released, who is only on loan, to save his salary.
The others who are left will have to carry on until the Summer when a clearout is possible with just probably Doherty, Arokodare, Mane, Hoever etc left plus a number of newcomers arriving at Molineux.
Who, from where and if having any British experience will be down to the transfer team who surely must get it right this time?
7.) 23 Dec 2025 09:15:04
Some good points OAP …the only slight concern is…
‘Bring in bench warmers or squad players to see the season out until the Summer’
I’d still like to think we’d could just about beat Derby’s record. It’s looking less and less likely but setting a new record which will probably NEVER be beaten and maybe going a whole season without a single win…going down in history as the worst premier team ever…well that’s going to hurt. ?
8.) 23 Dec 2025 15:51:49
3G wolf, it could be a global record for tier1 sides!
20 Dec 2025 18:27:53
I was speaking with some fans as I was leaving Molineux today. They had heard a rumour that Guo has personally intervened and removed Jeff from his post. The reason being that he could see that his disastrous tenure is almost certainly going to see us relegated. Guo has allegedly approached a number of high profile people with experience of running football clubs but none of them were prepared to work with Jeff.
They also said Daniel Levy had been approached to take over as Executive Chairman and Dan Ashworth as Sporting Managing Director. Both turned down the offers but may reconsider now that Shi has gone but are not that keen to lower themselves to a Championship club which is what we soon will be.
Guo has taken the decision to remove Shi as he had basically turned the club into a laughing stock.
1.) 20 Dec 2025 19:51:46
Utter and complete garbage
2.) 20 Dec 2025 21:34:58
Dan Ashworth would be a good idea. It would be good to see players develop through the academy and set up similar scout networks to Brighton and Newcastle. The West Midlands and Shropshire must be rife with quality young players.
Levy very similar to Shi very astute financially but is known for not attracting and not paying the going rate for certain quality players.
The question is do you roll the dice and allow a good manager (not Edwards) to rebuild the squad for the second half of the season.
The season is written off so what is the clubs plan?
I'm not sure what the right path is to be honest.
I think it's difficult to say plan for the Championship as Edwards could be sacked if they keep losing. 6 games is a lot of games to be fair and the squad he has is better than Luton IMO. I can't see much difference than Vitor. I'd keep Edwards as a youth coach.
I'd like a manager that is well drilled and has a way of keeping clean sheets.
Then in the January window I would sign some quality at RWB, lwb and two forwards with pace.
Happily sell Larsen, Arias, Andre, Jackson and Wolfe to fund those players.
LWB-Pubill (loan), FW-Jota at Celtic, RWB-Thiago Santos from Lille, CB-Bright Area Mbi from Braga, CM-Mainoo (loan) for Andre.
Oscar Minguisa would be a good option to cover CB and LWB with AFCON
Also not sure on the midfielders but maybe Neves is an option.
I think the club will struggle to sign two forwards so players that have to fight for a WC spot may be the best option.
Also if we plan for the championship Dendoncker and Traore for 2nd half of the season on loan wouldn't be a bad options with their experience.
There is a mixture of different players that would be positive for staying in the prem under a different manager and the championship and developing for next season we also have Doyle out on loan which could be an option for the championship.
But what is the plan have the players and club given up?
And what is Fosun's plan I think w may find out more this week.
I can't see them writing off half a season with a gap (although big at 13 points) as we have to face all the teams around us.
But can they sign the quality and pace on the wings and forwards to put up a fight.
ODCL
3.) 20 Dec 2025 21:37:15
Any respectable company (or CEO) would have been on the case before now. Shameful, irresponsible and unprofessional.
Says it all!
4.) 20 Dec 2025 21:47:09
What an absolute crock of ?
5.) 20 Dec 2025 22:38:10
I think we lose to both Liverpool and United and then, if West Ham beat us on 3rd Jan, Rob Edwards is gone.
6.) 21 Dec 2025 10:32:51
No chance of us signing quality Madman. Quality goes elsewhere. Loan is the only chance of getting decent players in but they will only be peripheral players for their current teams meaning they won't be quality even if they are better than we've got.
Also they'll be out of match practice and of course there are loan limits (2 from other English clubs). Basically, we're way up that well known creek without a paddle or even a canoe!
7.) 21 Dec 2025 12:00:29
Agreed Old Wulf. But I don't think the players and coach should be rolling over each week.
Stage one keep a clean sheet so we can build on that.
We lost yesterday as we let a ball bounce (good ball on the replay BTW) and then didn't head that ball clear.
We can't let that happen every game attack the f**king ball as a defender.
Edwards got the subs wrong yesterday we took our width off when Hoever (agreed not good enough) but he was trying to get forward and play crosses in.
After West Ham game 3rd Jan there is 17 games left that's 51 points up for grabs.
The squad isn't as far of picking up results as we think. We need some balance and experience at wing back and some pace and courage in the forwards.
35 points may be enough to stay up.
So what is Fosun's plan.
I agree with the not attracting quality depends who they move out and what the project is short to medium term.
I would roll the dice as I think 3 quality players either loans or signings nd we start picking up points.
But I also don't think Edwards is the man to get us into a shape to keep clean sheets and build on that in the short term.
8.) 21 Dec 2025 14:44:12
Pity we can't get Dan Ashworth at the moment we are run by amateurs. Can't believe they train or are coached together, no discipline and shocking work rate. Right from the start the plan was to park the bus and soak up pressure.
We were at home for goodness sake and try to sit on a goalless draw, madness. No doubt RE is a nice books it this lot need a kick up the backside. Could have done with Dyche to shake them up sadly too late now.
9.) 21 Dec 2025 15:50:11
Probably is complete garbage but at the moment nothing surrounding WWFC would surprise me.
I suspect Old Wolf is correct, the loan market will probably be the way to go in the January window.
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21 Jun 2026 22:24:54
My team for next season.
New GK, Trippier, Santi, Lascalles, Wolfe, Andre, Rodrigo, Manhoef, Doyle, Mane, Jimenez, Traore
Armstrong, Fer, Lima on the bench
I don't think Mosquera, Sa, Krejci, Tolu, Bellegarde and Hugo will be here come the start of the season.
1.) 22 Jun 2026 02:44:45
I've got GK Patterson, Rb Trippier, CB Alleyne, Cb Toti, LB Moller Wolfe, CM Andre, Cm Doyle, Cam Rodrigo, Cam Mane, Cam Lopez, St Raul.
2.) 22 Jun 2026 09:05:11
Patterson/Meslier, Wolfe/Fry/Webster/Trippier, Andre/Sa Gomes/Mane/Lopez, Raul.
3.) 22 Jun 2026 13:35:01
Good u have 12 players there, mate.
4.) 22 Jun 2026 14:52:02
I will add mine.
GK - anyone atm. Haha.
LB - Bueno/Wolf.
CB - Santi.
CB - Krejci (if we can keep him).
RB - Trip.
CM - Mane.
CM - Andre.
CM - another CM like Neves.
LW - R Gomes.
RW - Fer Lopez.
ST - Raul/Armstrong.
If we are going all attacking and high pressing that means 4-3-3.
But I would say that Santi, Toti, etc weren't good enough for the Prem. Our defence for a couple of seasons has been calamitous at best.
But who knows what the summer will bring. Or who it will bring in.
5.) 22 Jun 2026 15:01:50
Yeah, I was choosing either keeper as an option there. :-P Just hope we start hearing some rumours soon.
6.) 22 Jun 2026 19:40:03
Apologies, Boubacar Traore was meant to be on the subs list.
7.) 22 Jun 2026 20:34:13
No apologies needed, bro. Good team.
15 Jun 2026 16:37:44
Peixoto has been confirmed as Manager.
I like what he's said about how he intends to set up the team.
Like it or not, he's the guy steering the ship so let's all get behind him.
08 Jun 2026 20:16:07
I've got a feeling that Jhon Arias is going to be one of the standout stars of the upcoming World Cup.
I don't think he was given a fair crack of the whip whilst at Molineux.
1.) 08 Jun 2026 20:56:30
He was given more than a fair crack of the whip and couldn't wait to leave.
2.) 08 Jun 2026 21:31:12
I think VP and Edwards stifled his impact by playing such negative, defensive football. He was so good during the World Club World Cup and his performances had got up a gear since returning to Brazil.
I would have preferred him to Angel Gomes.
3.) 08 Jun 2026 21:50:39
I always thought he was a good player, but most of his work went unnoticed. He got a similar fan reaction as Armstrong is getting now. Shame he wanted out, not much can be done about that.
4.) 09 Jun 2026 07:52:18
The Club World Cup was just a friendly summer competition, as shown by the fact that Chelsea won it! Having said that, some players will exceed themselves over the next few weeks and get big moves that turn out to be flops. It's happened many times before.
5.) 09 Jun 2026 09:26:12
Jhon Arias was absolute gash for Wolves. The only decent game I can remember him having was against Shrewsbury!
03 Jun 2026 15:06:15
The average Shirt Sponsorship deal for a Championship team is worth approx £2.5m to £5m.
Wolves new deal with Midnite is worth £1.5m.
1.) 03 Jun 2026 15:23:49
Is it a short term deal? Might be one year only.
2.) 03 Jun 2026 16:03:42
It is only a 1 year deal, but still below the average.
3.) 03 Jun 2026 16:41:04
What's your source? Best I could find says the average is between 0.5 - 2.5mil. So it sounds about right to me. You also need to consider the value is affected by the size of the fan base, etc., so, unlike what some think, we aren't the biggest club in the Champ. Or maybe our fans are a bit tighter with their cash, so less value for the sponsors.
It just seems like more criticism for the sake of it than any actual truth that we aren't getting the best deals we can.
My only gripe is that it's with another gambling company, not necessarily because they are preying on the weak-willed, more just because there are so many and it's all a bit boring. Although I suppose Midnite is aesthetically better than Debet, or W88 etc.
4.) 03 Jun 2026 17:11:00
I thought Midnite was a computer game. Hopefully, the one-year deal says that Wolves are getting promoted at the first time of asking.
Promotion will bring a three-year £300 million sponsorship deal with Starlink.
5.) 03 Jun 2026 17:19:49
Could be, Ice. I thought it was the one with the weird adverts of people with veins pulsing in their heads.
6.) 03 Jun 2026 17:48:00
I read it online earlier.
The article has been altered since I read it earlier, but I've cut and pasted what I could find:
Following Wolves' recent relegation from the Premier League, their commercial leverage for a front-of-shirt sponsor naturally adjusted to Championship market rates.
The Step Down: For context, Wolves' previous Premier League front-of-shirt deal with Debet (signed in 2024) was worth just under £10 million per year.
Championship front-of-shirt sponsorships for clubs pushing for promotion typically command between £1.5 million and £4 million per year, depending on bonus structures for securing promotion back to the top flight.
7.) 03 Jun 2026 23:38:06
Thanks Gwil, I wonder if we have a bonus structure to make it more? And, it makes more sense, being clubs pushing for promotion, that can achieve higher value. The values I posted were for all Champ sides, so bringing the average down a fair bit.
I guess we are still at the low end of clubs aiming for promotion, of course, who knows if that will actually be the case.
8.) 04 Jun 2026 00:05:38
Sponsorship means sweet FA if you've got no team. Let's see what happens on the playing side under Edwards. I've always loved my Wolves, but I really don't hold much hope with Edwards in charge. Hope I'm wrong, but doubt it...
17 May 2026 18:11:59
I know some are going to slate me for this but I'm gonna write it anyway as this is what I feel having seen today's performance.
Yes, I admit that it was a better display, well until we scored anyway.
After that, Fulham dominated the game but for once, our defence held firm thanks in no part to the experience of Krejci and Santi. Had Toti have been on the pitch, we would have lost but the one thing I noticed (and the reason why some will slaters me) is Hwang's performance.
Yes, he got the assist and nearly got a 2nd but other than that, he offered nothing. Now I sit in the North Bank so saw Wolves attacking that goal.
In the first half. Mane, Rodrigo and Armstrong were all getting at the Fulham defence and trying to create some space which could be attacked. Hwang, on the other hand, didn't. Just before he got the assist, he had the ball, misplaced it and then fell over. It was thanks to the fall that he happened to be in the right area when the ball returned off a deflection for him to pass it to Mane who scored.
Hwang casually walks into the area whenever Wolves were attacking.
In the 2nd half, Fulham brought on Raul. From the get go, he was winning or at least challenging for everything and then sprinting into the box to offer an outlet.
1.) 17 May 2026 19:14:38
Hwang hasn't been good enough for years. Ran and Cunha briefly made him look half decent. Wolves have only been playing him for commercial reasons. That's not Hwang's fault.
I hope he finds a new club and does well. I don't agree with Wolves fans cheering when he's substituted.
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13 Jul 2026 18:25:18
Didn't John Percy say that the Pinheiro rumours were inaccurate, as Wolves were going to have Trippier and Pedro Lima as right backs.
13 Jul 2026 14:15:15
Ice Ice. Not saying I know more than Matt Jackson, but you became very defensive very quickly. What I'm trying to say, and the point you're missing, is that most clubs are now back in pre-season training. Wolves, including Jackson, said the club had already identified their targets, so why haven't these players signed? They are no longer on holiday, so where are they? If we somehow manage to sign anyone who played in the last 16 of the World Cup, then I will happily apologise and say that the World Cup halted progress.
But why haven't the likes of Patterson, Dan Neil, and players of that kind been signed? They weren't at the World Cup and are back in training.
13 Jul 2026 13:55:48
Who are the players that Wolves are trying to get rid of?
Jackson, Tolu, Toti, Mosquera, Joao?
Did any of these go to the World Cup? No. So why haven't we managed to get rid of them?
Why have Man Utd managed to negotiate a deal for Tielemans whilst he was at the World Cup? Likewise, Man City and Elliott Andersen.
If we are after players that played at the World Cup, then yes, I agree that the tournament may have an effect, but I very much doubt we are fishing at that particular pool anymore.
13 Jul 2026 11:58:11
Not buying this World Cup getting in the way business.
There are plenty of clubs who are actively signing players, even though the players are still at, or have very recently been eliminated from, the World Cup.
Youri Tielemans to Man Utd being a very recent example.
Wolves are not after international superstars, so most likely the players haven't been to the World Cup and are now back in pre-season training.
10 Jul 2026 11:21:39
Don't know anything about him. Is he any good? Can he make the move from Belgium football to the Championship? We all thought Tolu was going to be a decent player after a good season in Belgium, but he wasn't.
Hopefully Rafiki will prove to be better suited to English football.
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14 Jul 2026 12:03:25
He's got the full pre season to bed in. Last year was different, as the players came in so late in the window.
12 Jul 2026 12:48:34
Yeah. I mean, Trippier and Raul are your typical lower-league strugglers, ain't they, who are signed by teams fighting relegation year after year.
11 Jul 2026 16:14:49
Every single player last season was dreadful, bar a few good displays here and there. Mane, for me, was very overrated. He had an excellent game against West Ham, then it seemed teams sussed him out. But, I think the big problem last season was the set up of the team. Vp had them playing backwards, and Rob continued the trend.
Mane looked good when allowed to roam across the front line, however, from memory, this was few and far between.
Hopefully the system Peixoto likes to play will suit the likes of Mane, Rodrigo, and Said, and we will see a more attacking team.
11 Jul 2026 16:09:15
I would have thought Bellegarde, Santi, Sa, Raul, Krejci and Sasa are still on holiday, having been at the World Cup, and Moller Wolfe will be given time off after England beat Norway tonight (hopefully).
11 Jul 2026 10:08:18
When we won the Championship last time around, Fosun were still relatively unknown and their ambition seemed inspired. This time, any potential signing will have taken note of the last 5 years.
But, the likes of Raul and Trippier would not have signed if we were a club looking to stand still or move backwards, so hopefully the removal of Shi has freed the club from his shackles.