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20 Dec 2025 10:57:32
So the million dollar question.
Was Jeff trying his best for the football side of the business or was he running the club for the short term benefit of Fosun with football very much a secondary issue?
Since I find it hard to believe that anyone could be as incompetent as Jeff, (and keep their job!), I have to come down on the side of "he was doing Fosun's bidding".
As an aside if you believe he was genuinely trying but just staggeringly incompetent, (£80m pa less profit than Brentford pre-player sales!), is he the worst executive in the history of the game - if not who gets close? (Mike Ashley is not in the same post code!)
If he wasn't and was doing Fosun's bidding it is extremely hard to see why anything would change now - especially as changes will now be extremely expensive to enact.
Either way - despite the comments of a couple of Jeff defenders on here recently - the future of the football club in the short, medium and long term are extremely bleak.
Sadly as Fosun are about to discover relegation is not insignificant and consequently whatever short term benefits Jeff may have elicited for Fosun the overall outcome will be a disaster for Fosun as well.
It appears that they either just didn't understand what they were doing or were arrogant to the point of stupidity about their ability to buy low sell high - which, as I have stated several times, has proven impossible for any club to achieve over the medium term in the history of the game!
This January however will show what Fosun wants to do.
If they cut and run - (selling the 4 remaining genuine prem quality players - Andre, Gomes, Krejci and Emmanuel - plus JSL who might be if he could be bothered) - we will know that they have no intention of supporting the football side of the business and administration and a double or treble drop is not impossible.
But if they keep all of the stars and attempt to build bridges to the players - perhaps offering loyalty bonuses to those, (that you want), that stay in the Championship - then next season, despite my comments above, might see the club bounce back.
Any squad with 4 genuine prem quality players in it should do v well in the Championship.
This though will be expensive and will require Fosun to run the club well!
Ps would you make an insane offer to Neves - player manager on double wages - player and manager - to send a signal, (it would only be a gesture this season as relegation like the Ashes defeat is all but confirmed), to the football world that Wolves are back as a serious entity?
Bit of a dump of thoughts but in shock at the news and still so angry at what Jeff/Fosun have done to the club!
1.) 20 Dec 2025 12:49:25
A good read but the club will not sell Krejci. They can't because he's only on loan to us.
2.) 20 Dec 2025 14:11:37
There the option to buy tho Goodwhile, will we splash another 20m to keep him?
3.) 20 Dec 2025 14:38:58
Gwil 1 if Krejci plays so many games Wolves have obligation to sign him unless there's a clause ssying if Wolves are relegated he doesn't have to.
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13 Dec 2025 10:13:14
De Wolf - what an awful situation.
Don't disagree with what you say -although lately Agbadou has recovered somewhat and is still (potentially at least) not only the best CB the club has but a top half CB.
However not only would fire selling the 3 or 4 good players, (who sadly aren't the high earners), left in the squad not raise anywhere near what you would hope but it might make the rest of this season even more embarrassing.
Finishing on two points with a negative goal difference of well over 100 might destroy what is left of the club.
The gap between the remainder of the squad and league 1 football is also very very narrow and unless the next two windows are far better managed than the last 10 have been the double drop - maybe even the triple once more - is not unimaginable.
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24 Dec 2025 13:37:52
DMac - well said.
Ed - 001 really appreciate all your and your colleagues' efforts and v sorry that I have both posted a lot less recently and that I have become even more of a Grinch!
On that note I would love to add "have a happy New Year" but as I imagine most on here are pretty diehard fans of the club I don't see how that can happen under the current ownership?
{Ed001's Note - nothing wrong with being a grinch, my little sister looks just like him and we still tolerate her. Just.}
14 Dec 2025 14:18:54
Doog - however it seems, at least according to some on the "rumours page", that he will be off in January.
Selling your best players window after window has led the club to where it is now.
What a mess!
13 Dec 2025 15:33:24
Simon - Did your friend say which business?
As I have said many times before Jeff is certainly no idiot but he assumes, seemingly correctly, that most of the fans are.
He may well be doing an excellent job for Fosun but he certainly isn't for the football club- note the two are very different!
Huge losses over the past few seasons - pre-unsustainable player sales - certainly don't indicate a club with no problems.
Maybe your friend can explain 1) where the money has gone over the past few years, 2) how Jeff will square an income of £30-50m with costs of £250m and debt of over £300m over the medium term?
13 Dec 2025 10:28:42
Did I hear Jeff say there is a financial plan for relegation?
The current cost base is well over £250m and debt is over £300m.
Income even allowing for the parachute payment - which after the first year declines sharply and has anyway been mortgaged to the "bank" - is circa £100m before stabilising after two or three years at somewhere between £30 and £50m - assuming the club survives in the Championship.
So he has a plan to cut £150m from the cost base in one year and perhaps another £50m or so the year after?
Given the playing wage bill is well under say £80m including NI, pension contributions etc etc even selling the entire squad and becoming the only "amateur " side in the football league would get nowhere near that!
Nor would it make even a small dent in the debt owed to the "bank and other clubs let alone Fosun!
So what is the plan and if it is so easy why hasn't he cut a mere £80m a year from costs, (which would still only have made Wolves as profitable as Brentford!), over the past few years so that the club could have retained the services of some of the players he has been forced to push out of the door at cut price fees!
09 Dec 2025 10:57:59
Banksy - Lopez was actually not that bad. He at least looked like he wanted the ball and wanted to be positive with it. Sadly he is very lightweight and did get knocked off the ball regularly but he is young and will, if playing regularly, toughen up.
Given that he is not on massive money it is possible that Wolves might be able to afford him next year especially if there is a relegation clause built in - surely in the summer of 2025 the club realised relegation was highly likely and acted accordingly? - but will a more physical championship be where he wants to start his senior career?
I suspect he will want out and maybe he will go back to Spain if only on loan?
Re the game Wolves, (mostly), tried hard but too many of the players are simply out of their depth.
4-1 was fair. On another day it could have been 6 or 7.
Not as bad as Brentford away last year but not far off - the defence is a shambles. So easily cut through by 1 pass.
Positives
Agbadou once again looked like the player he was last year a powerful CB, (albeit fighting fires and dashing around does make you look heroic even if one ultimately fails).
Krejci also looked ok.
The best player though by miles was Bellegarde who worked hard and looked like he could control the ball - something many others struggled with.
Worst? Too many choices - Hoever and Arias miles off pace. I will however go for JSL as he simply doesn't want to be there and makes little to no effort to hide the fact.
For a twenty minute period before half time Wolves, "had a go" and threw bodies forward and sent numerous crosses in. I'm not sure he got near any of them!