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30 Dec 2024 00:36:14
Nine points from first sixteen games, seven points from next three. It’s a Happy New Year. My worst fears that Fosun would stick with GON or replace him with an uninspiring journeyman have been proved wrong. So thank you Fosun at least for that. Get a good CB in quickly and I think with our new manager directing things we can challenge any team in the league.

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1.) 30 Dec 2024 12:05:23
Make that two of them IB.


2.) 30 Dec 2024 17:33:53
Looks like
Kevin danso and Joel ordonez
Priority signings in Jan


3.) 30 Dec 2024 22:26:09
Sounds promising Greyleg. We desperately need a couple of centre backs.


 

 

15 Dec 2024 22:07:18
Glad to see the back of GON. I believe his mistake was to believe he was a better coach than he was. He thought he could change the way we play but failed to appreciate that we don’t have the players to play the way he wanted. Shi didn’t know enough about football to see through GON’s faults and allowed him to remain far too long. I hope our situation is retrievable but I doubt it.

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1.) 15 Dec 2024 22:31:04
Time will tell I guess, disappointed for him that he couldn’t make it work. If the new manager comes in and we start getting results then I guess it was down to O’neils tactics. It’s a shame as I thought the Ipswich game could have gone either way. But admittedly I only watched the highlights. Fingers crossed it is as easy as changing the manager and getting a player or two in but that remains to be seen. Hoping we haven’t left it too late and that we get a manager in quick, none of this people turning us down malarkey.


2.) 16 Dec 2024 05:58:18
GON could not get a tune out of the players we have at the club. Against Ipswich, whether it was his tactics or certain players deciding to do their own thing, a few passages of play stood out for me.

At one point, AIT had the ball on the left and had acres of room to run down the channels with Cunha, Larsen and Guedes all available and screaming for the ball. AIT decided to slow the play down and pass it backwards to Toti and we soon lost possession.

The fact that GON came out and said that the defence did their own thing at the corner leading to the winner just confirms that things were not right.


3.) 16 Dec 2024 06:54:14
I think our survival is now going to depend on perhaps other teams results more than our own, sure a couple of unexpected wins would help but its consistency that we need and I'm not sure we'll find that.
Certainly if we've any chance we've got to get the team playing for each other, and more importantly for wolves as a club.
That can only come through being happy in their roles and having confidence in their manager.
Experience is the needed requisite and while there's no doubting periera past success will that translate to the Premier leagues demands and speed, game turnaround etc?
It may be a bit late for a successful rescue mission this year, which begs the question of him accepting a championship team to manage next.
Nuno came with a dream, periera might face a nightmare, does he really feel that confident in himself to accept the job? Will he stay the course if he does? Only time, again, will tell.
Sorry if I sound abit negative but it's worrying times, and I know its Christmas, but I'm not sure a saviour is going to be found at this time. GON should haveg gone weeks ago.


4.) 16 Dec 2024 09:10:54
Fully agree Abbey, the time that any appointment has to gel this squad into some semblance of an effective team is very limited. He will need time to get to know the players and more time getting his message across to them and and time is not something we have a lot of, the season is quickly slipping away. Stranger things have happened so all we can do is hope.


5.) 16 Dec 2024 10:54:45
Agree Abbey. The last 4 defeats whilst gifting points to our relegation rivals opens up a big gap.

Will we end up changing manager again in the summer? Who knows. GON had to go to give us any chance. He should have gone after Brentford and then again after Everton. It all feels as though the damage may have already been done now.

The 4 year contract was questionable given the timing in preseason, and then sacking him after Shi's vote of confidence in the week after such a delay makes things behind the scenes look chaotic.


6.) 16 Dec 2024 11:20:06
Agree Abbey. I imagine the Shi view was that if GON could collect good results against relegation sides the team might just galvanise and reproduce some of the good form shown earlier in glimpses. But even relegation sides have to be beaten by sound tactics and commitment and that was not evident. The club is leader less, something which will be necessary in volume if we are to respond to a new coach and dig ourselves out of this hole. But then where? We do not have a pot! So the best to hope for is another season of struggle. Seriously who will relish that prospect?


7.) 16 Dec 2024 14:35:25
Lots of people here wanted O'Neil to stay too.
Hindsight is 20/20.


8.) 16 Dec 2024 16:27:03
Carried out a survey did you, Handsome? Thought not.His support clearly waned throughout the season but, given some of his decisions on the make up of the team, his tactics and formations used with square pegs in round holes, I think you are overegging the pudding to a ridiculous extent with 'lots'. No, I haven't done a survey either but I've been to the games to feel the mood.


9.) 16 Dec 2024 17:05:56
Maybe he means the other 4 Handsome lads! ?


10.) 16 Dec 2024 18:05:29
In fairness to Handsome four weeks ago GON had just drawn with Palace, beaten Southampton and about to beat Fulham 4-1 away! No one sacks a winning manager! He should have gone after the Everton game, cause that was the first time this squad really looked truly beaten by a relegation rival, at which point there was no turning things round!


11.) 18 Dec 2024 21:47:20
GON should have gone weeks ago, can't blame him fully for the situation the club are in as recruitment has been in the hands of Hobbs. Let the manager manage and identify players he wants; not sure of Hobbs credentials to pick players always seemed a strange way to build a team?


 

 

14 Dec 2024 20:19:13
I am past anger, just filled with a deep sadness. For seasons now posters on these pages have called for the recruitment of strong centre backs yet nothing has happened. Instead we spend big money on a mediocre goalkeeper and ones for the future. The result being we can’t field a Premier league standard defence. Fosun seem happy to see us relegated after which they will recoup much of their investment if not more by selling all our good players. We will struggle in the Championship.

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1.) 14 Dec 2024 20:52:21
We'll probably get the old 'we tried to get this player or that player but couldn't for whatever reason' runaround in January Innocent, or nobody wants to sell/loan in January. They kept that one going for 3 seasons when we needed to replace Raul.

I'm now starting to believe that GON only did 'well' last season because he rode the bow wave created by Lopetegui before he left thanks to Fosuns BS. Frankly watching things this season even though we lost Kilman and Neto, he seems clueless.

So apologies to Julien who I thought had done a spoilt brat runner, he didn't, he was the one with integrity. As for GON he's just a part, but a major part of the problems at Wolves now.


2.) 14 Dec 2024 21:09:36
Tbh. We're all moaning. And rightly so, but it's time to moan with our
Presence, if no one went to games, surely fosun would have to do something., they may do tonight or tomorrow, fingers crossed


3.) 14 Dec 2024 22:10:54
In truth Greyleg if the run of results and performances stretching back into last season wasn't enough to get a reaction then I doubt a few thousand no shows on match day would even register.

If we don't wake up tomorrow to 'that news' then I think we all know that we WILL be relegated this season. Frankly any inaction now will tell us they are deluded or just don't care.


4.) 15 Dec 2024 08:03:45
Well don’t know what to say if he ain’t had the bullet by Monday then we all know that we will definitely go down and the club will go into rapid decline fed up with O’Neil saying the players need me what’s that all about he don’t half talk some crap .its gone past us lot saying let's get behind him its no good saying that its all too late I’m afraid drastic action is needed today or tomorrow


 

 

09 Nov 2024 19:45:04
The drowning man has one hand on the life raft. Too early to tell if he has a firm grip.

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1.) 09 Nov 2024 20:18:52
Saw the whole game, for me he still has to go, we are like a house made out of cards take one card out and the rest will topple, very fragile and likely to let a goal in at any time, we only won because southampton cannot score, they played some great possession football and threatened at times, cannot use this victory as an excuse to prolong the agony o'neill has to go, or we will lose cunha, gomez, etc wait till we meet a team that can score goals we are crap anyone who thinks otherwise in my opinion is deluded.


2.) 09 Nov 2024 21:20:31
Gon has to be replaced and fast.24 possession is not controlling the game and we can't rely on luck. But please not Rob Edwards.


3.) 09 Nov 2024 22:57:42
Not that simple though is it Nell, it's only THAT simple if you can guarantee we will sign a better manager, can you?! Else all we are doing is another Dean Saunders, which frankly is EXACTLY what Rob Edwards would be! Hilarious to see all these supposed fans complaining at a 2-0 win at home when the away team didn't get a single shot on goal, it's almost like they have an agenda beyond winning?! ?


4.) 09 Nov 2024 23:39:22
Wait until we meet a team that can score goals, nell? Not sure what you are on about as we've already met them!


5.) 10 Nov 2024 06:58:07
Bullysboy, we can see beyond the performances. Southampton had 70% possession against us today. Fortunately for us, they didn't have anyone capable of putting the ball in the back of the net.

Attacking wise, we looked good (when we move forward rather than sideways and backwards) but Southampton easily overan our midfield and worried our defence.

Yes, a win is a win but if you can honestly say we played well then I must have watched a different game to you.


 

 

04 Nov 2024 03:04:45
We’ve scored 14 goals. Only eight sides have scored more however no one comes close to the 27 we’ve conceded. The folly of not bringing in two reliable centre backs is clear for all to see. Time to park the bus?

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1.) 04 Nov 2024 06:17:42
Don't blame this on the centre backs or any of the players. It is the system or more correct the lack of system they are forced to play. Dawson is not a bad CB We have enough good players to do fare better. And that is just down to one person. But I agree in we should have bought a cb in the summer. But it is not the main problem.


2.) 04 Nov 2024 06:40:17
Innocent, you are so right. Lack of attention to ensure we have a robust defence will cost us.


3.) 04 Nov 2024 07:43:48
It's rather ironic that GON was recently being touted as a candidate for the England vacancy and now wouldn't fare well with a Sunday League team.


4.) 04 Nov 2024 08:01:50
How can you have a robust defence when the the wing backs are allowed to run around in no mans land in the middle of the park. It is a kind of system I see being used in child football where you put as many players you can in the middle, create chaos, making the field smaller, stopping the other team from playing football. Works for about half an hour.


5.) 04 Nov 2024 08:05:17
I think it already has Rugeley, 27 goals conceded already is beyond shocking.


6.) 04 Nov 2024 08:35:44
GON has been in charge for 48 League games.

During that time, we have conceded 91 goals.

This equates to nearly 2 goals per game conceded.

This is not a 'this' season thing.

We conceded 64 goals last season. How long does GON need to identify that the defence is a problem?

And before anyone says Kilman is a massive loss, can I point out that in the 27 games prior to Dawsons injury, we conceded 51 goals (1.88) per game, compared to when Kilman played without Dawson (11 games, 23 goals conceded @ 2.09 goals per game).


7.) 04 Nov 2024 09:49:43
See thread above for similar comment. Our defence is a total shambles.
Both of the goals this week were down to a lack of quality and, more worryingly organisation, at the back.
Not replacing Kilman, not that he was even very good and so no complaints about taking £40m for him, was a very very bad decision that is coming back to haunt us.
See Nuno's Forest for how it should be done - and for a fraction of the money we spent on wingers nowhere near the first team and a 5th albeit v good defensive midfielder who we now don't even play!


8.) 04 Nov 2024 11:07:44
Nuno played a counter attacking system. He was more than happy for the opposition to have the ball and try to breach our back line. This worked well as he had an exceptional organiser in Coady with Boly and Saiss forming a solid back 3. We also had Doherty and Jonny who stayed back when required but quickly moved forward when required.

Then to add to this, we had Neves, Moutinho, Adama, Jota and Jimenez who were always looking to push forward as fast as possible.

Attack wise we are fine but the defence is a shambles. During Lopetegui's 23 league games, we conceded 34 goals so 1.48 per game.

GON has the same players at his disposal and the defence is a lot worse.


 

 

 

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14 Aug 2024 02:05:27
For me, the issue of whether we are weaker or stronger than last year turns on whether we recruit a top class CB. The defence currently looks a real worry with inadequate experience and injury cover. It’s too early to panic but I’m starting to get a little scared.

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07 Jun 2024 22:13:35
I would have thought Mario was a required player. He’s under contract and a potential captain. There’s no way we will let him go for petty cash as it would mean paying a much higher fee to replace him. If I am wrong, the club is in trouble!

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22 Nov 2023 08:34:05
Agree with you TFOG. The bottom line for me is that we can’t let Sa go in January before we have an excellent replacement signed up. Our reserve keeper couldn’t hold down his place at Bristol City.

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25 Aug 2023 06:47:50
Not a rugby fan? Strewth LindsayB, be careful saying that or the Kiwi’s will revoke your citizenship!

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24 Aug 2023 22:16:24
Yes LindsayB, someone can answer your question. That someone is Jeff Shi, but he won’t. You could try giving him a call to express your displeasure and you can tell him I’m not happy either. Better you divert your energies to supporting the All Blacks!

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23 Dec 2024 22:02:31
Interesting parallels between this season and two years ago. Both the new manager comes in for the 17th game, both win away. Only difference this year we have one less point. Every reason to be optimistic now, provided we get a strong CB in January. Happy Christmas all, COYW.

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12 Dec 2024 20:41:49
Just read Jeff’s message. If I knew less before I know no more now. Sleepwalking towards the Championship.

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10 Dec 2024 20:51:56
I think you have hit the nail on the head Wimborne. Fosun knows that even if we are relegated by selling our best players they can make a return on their investment.

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10 Dec 2024 04:36:08
Well Rated, on his record GON should have been gone some time ago. That he hasn’t gone suggests to me that any manager capable of getting us out of this mess is not willing to take the job principally because of the limitations imposed by Fosun which have been well documented by many in these pages. I may be proved wrong tomorrow but right now I think GON will be with us for some time yet. A situation that inspires little confidence.

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07 Dec 2024 03:38:11
It all points Fosun’s lack of ambition. If they don’t replace GON now, we can assume they have given up on the Project and they are prepared for us to be relegated. They will then sell off all our good players, pocket the proceeds and leave a wreck of a club struggling in the Championship. Tell me it ain’t true Fosun, tell me it ain’t true!

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