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09 Sep 2022 16:04:28
Due to the nations sad loss yesterday there (understandably) is a media slow down.
I take it that the interest from Galatasaray in Trore came to nothing?
Ed, anybody know anything?

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{Ed002's Note - Seemingly not.}


 

 

08 Sep 2022 14:48:38
Costa medical completed.

wombourneron

1.) 08 Sep 2022 15:48:08
And there goes the cork on my Spanish Cava bottle. Dancing days.


2.) 08 Sep 2022 16:35:07
Rumour has it.

He like Chorizo and he likes Paella

But will we get the annunciation correct in the South Bank?


3.) 09 Sep 2022 07:17:11
Not sure he does,GDawg because isn't he really Brazilian having only played for Spain because of residence qualification?


4.) 09 Sep 2022 07:48:32
Oh no. next you'll tell me Cutrone didn't really like Pasta and Pizza.


5.) 09 Sep 2022 13:21:32
Don't need to GDawg.He actually said that himself when the song was initially sung.Not so popular in the Italian lakes he reckoned!


 

 

07 Sep 2022 16:45:41
Evidently Galatasaray have offered 3.5m Euro to take traore on loan.
If they agree to this loan they really are out of there depth considering our current situation.

wombourneron

1.) 07 Sep 2022 19:48:32
Surely £3.5m as a loan fee until his contract runs down means a £3.5 m transfer. Keep trying!


2.) 07 Sep 2022 20:47:16
Sorry Mike, I just think he is worth keeping (after all he is an asset) than £3m in the bank. Costa will need time, another injury and we would be stuffed.


3.) 07 Sep 2022 21:10:02
Totally agree
Keep adama


4.) 08 Sep 2022 08:50:15
Wombourne, I wasn't making a judgement on keep or not merely saying that to loan Traore out now will run his contract down to being a free agent so effectively the loan fee becomes a transfer and my view would be to tell them to jog on.


5.) 08 Sep 2022 09:07:53
If he stays (and I hope he does) then this season is his shop window for his next move. He will be extremely useful.
I've always liked him, he puts fear into other teams. Yes, his final product isn't always there (although his last goal was quite good) but give him the ball and he attracts opposition players like Wasps to a pint!


6.) 08 Sep 2022 11:38:53
He is a frustrating player, but for me clearly a mistake to allow him to go out on loan last season. Cost us points.
Appears Lage wanted him out, but if he is with us this season, use him tactically.
Certainly I would give him a start against a nervous Liverpool.


 

 

01 Sep 2022 21:33:39
So, we have Trore on loan with a buy option. There was some talk about a possible work permit problem etc. Surely they would have got an assurance on that?

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06 Jan 2022 18:22:28
This Doherty/Traore thing seems to be gathering momentum. Can`t see the sense in it. Do we really need the Doc back? Is Semedo on his way just as he is establishing himself as a very good signing?

wombourneron

1.) 06 Jan 2022 19:47:10
No way should Docherty come back, he wanted to go and failed miserably his time has gone.


2.) 06 Jan 2022 21:02:25
Hope the powers that be agree with you Mike!


3.) 07 Jan 2022 00:24:36
Athletico supposedly want Semedo to replace Trippier so that may be why we're looking at Doherty (or journos think we are looking at Doherty)


4.) 07 Jan 2022 10:53:29
Putting Doherty to one side for a moment, would Semedo leaving be a good move and at what price? Is Hoever ready to step up? If the answer to these questions is yes and we can get the majority of the transfer fee back I might be inclined to go with it. As other posters have said why sign young players and not give them a chance. The downside however is do we have sufficient injury cover?


5.) 07 Jan 2022 12:22:09
Arddunby - the majority of the fee?
Given he has improved significantly defensively and is no worse offensively than when he first played for us either you believe we hugely over paid for him or you are happy for the club to be selling him cheap?
Neither says that you think management have/are going to cover (ed) themselves in glory.
Surely as a player who is clealry better than he was when he arrived 2 seasons ago his fee, if we were selling, should have gone up not down?


6.) 07 Jan 2022 13:06:38
Future, I suspect fees will be down across the market for the next few windows, did we overpay? that's a matter of opinion, maybe the market will decide that.


7.) 07 Jan 2022 13:40:32
Arddunby -V sorry. I was merely stirring. I actually am on record as saying we over paid for him and although he has improved (markedly) I agree we still wouldn't get our money back - that is how much we over paid!
All that being said I still wouldn't sell him as our recent record in the transfer market, (Sa and maybe Marcal excluded), indicates we would almost certainly merely double down on the error and end up buying a far worse player for not much less than we sold Seemdo for.
Not a Jeff fan!
Not as certain as you however that fees at the top level (where Wolves play!) will be down, although of course covid must have had some impact. Not as much as people think though as the vast majority of the money in the top end of the game comes via TV and commercial activities, (not impacted greatly by Covid) not gate money (which of course was decimated for a period by the virus). I accept this isn't true outside the top end of the game particulalrly if you are a lower league team but they don't exactly drive the transfer market.
If prices are down though then we def should be buyers not sellers - see Warren Buffet's first rule of investment!


8.) 07 Jan 2022 14:13:27
So the latest rumour is that Atletico are readying a £50m bid for Semedo. Would you sell him for that price and buy Doherty back?


9.) 07 Jan 2022 15:07:31
Future. I think we overpaid, and we were buying from a club with serious financial issues also, but I wouldn't like to try to put a valuation on the player, its always easier said online than a real negotiation. Yes we should be buying if prices are down, and you sure have a point about spending money wisely. Not much point if you waste it, better to find an alternative investment. Regards the fees last window I think City overpaid for Grealish and that is probably the current going rate. I also have doubts Spurs will get much more than that for Kane if he leaves.
Judging by the transfer news it seems clubs are interested in loans and swap deals more than usual at the moment.


10.) 07 Jan 2022 15:40:13
Jas v good q!
Not sure though that i'd link the two
As I have stated elsewhere on here I'd only take Doherty back on a free/loan and then only for modest wages - i.e. he would have to take a big pay cut or Spurs pay a chunk of them for the rest of his contract.
Although I loved him - unlike many - he is two years on from his glory days and it is a big ask to expect him to come back.
However if the risk was low enough i.e. low wages and no fee then maybe you take a gamble that he, (with Lage's help/coaching), can return to his former self?
Actually I think both issues - gambling on a Doherty return and/or selling Semedo may be linked to Otto's situation.
If he is fit and we are comfortable he will come back to his best, (best defender of all the FBs/WBs discussed here and ok going forward - not as good as Doherty was or Semedo and RAN hint, (but sadly, for various reasons dicussed regularly on here previously, rarely deliver) they might be), then he could be first choice at RWB. Given we have Hoever as cover and have RAN/Marcal on the left we would be better than adequately covered for FBs, WBs.
If money is tight, in reality only Jeff knows the answer to that, then £50m is an awful lot to turn down when we have pressing needs elsewhere that £50m would really help fill. Originally I thought our biggest needs were an ACM and a back up CB sadly now however I believe a new CF to cover/replace/help Jimenez (who it seems needs longer to get back than we had intially hoped) is a further and possibly even more pressing priority. {Of course the longer than expected return time may as discussed on here only recently with respect to Netto may apply to Otto as well!}
Further point worth noting that a Semedo sale would reduce our wage bill markedly - he is a top earner - and give us a huge uplift in our FFP situation as a £50m sale would represent a large profit on his ammortised value!
Net net if we could get £50m then yes I think I would sell and if we could get Doherty on my terms then again i'd love to take the gamble - sadly though I don't see either happening.
What would you do Jas?
Anyone else?


11.) 07 Jan 2022 16:47:38
At £50mil I would sell Semedo but want Doc on a free. Bruno might get Doc back to his best for a couple of years. There's no doubt that Bruno has improved Coady, for example, so there would be hope for Doc.


12.) 07 Jan 2022 16:58:45
I am if on totally honest not overly worried about Jimenez. His work rate is as good and he's not exactly been overwhelmed by a massive number of chances either taken or missed tbh.

Personally I would give him more time. I know it was a massive injury but was a top quality striker and I still think he can get back to top form. My opinion and hope!


13.) 10 Jan 2022 16:40:51
Good debate gents (as always). For me I would go with option c, I mean why does selling Semedo have to equal Docs return?! Personally I'd sell Semedo for £50m on the simple basis we'd never get such an offer for him again (nb in fact I suspect the whole things academic as if honest I can't see anyone offering that for him:)! Whatever us fans might think the whole reason we did what we did with Nelson and Docs was to improve our quality at RB so I'd stick to that programme. Take Athelticos hand off at £50m then take £20-30m and offer it for another quality young RB (Lamptey or Jayden Bogle spring to mind) ?


 

 

 

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26 Sep 2023 21:11:40
For all those crying out for Bentley to be given a chance. Looks very suspect to me.

wombourneron

1.) 26 Sep 2023 21:40:30
There's a reason we got him cheap


2.) 26 Sep 2023 21:48:52
Think it got lost in translation when Jeff Shi ordered a Bentley and he was waiting to take delivery of his new car.


3.) 26 Sep 2023 21:51:37
That's a premiership teams number 2.
What a bloody calamity. Hope they never pick him again. Bring back John Ruddy


4.) 26 Sep 2023 21:53:47
Like I said, de gea is still free.2up and lose pathetic. gon has 2go. OUR ONLY HOPE IS BURNLEY. SHEF UTD. LUTON are worse than us.


5.) 27 Sep 2023 04:45:05
Well luton, who battered us abit on sat lost to Exeter City last night, maybe that tells us something we don't want to recognise.?


 

 

08 Aug 2023 15:30:41
Reminiscent of Glenn Hoddle?

wombourneron

1.) 08 Aug 2023 16:24:15
Beales name now being banded about, how have we got here?


2.) 08 Aug 2023 21:10:52
Remember Kevin Keegan at Newcastle he walked because he couldn't have what he wanted he cried like a little baby it's similar with JL


 

 

05 Feb 2023 16:57:23
Only seen the highlights. However Traore seems up for it with his end product and body language.
With Gomes and Neto to come in we are in good shape. Still a long way to go. With the new gaffer and recruits we have a great chance.
UTW

wombourneron

1.) 05 Feb 2023 21:22:55
Yesterday was brilliant. We out fought Liverpool. The matchday squad didn't have Diego Costa, Neto, B Traore, Chiquinho or Joao Gomes.


2.) 06 Feb 2023 09:06:35
Podence was on the bench because he was feeling light headed.


3.) 06 Feb 2023 09:06:36
Jas, out fought and out thought. JLo had done his homework and sent his troops out with a positive game plan.


4.) 06 Feb 2023 09:39:55
Fantastic result/performance
Fantastic fans.
Chuffed for all.
COYW


5.) 06 Feb 2023 10:31:36
Phil, one of the best atmospheres at the Mol in quite a while. Pity they didn’t leave it till half time to introduce Gomes, to a full house. Not like they did, before kick off with loads still not in the ground


6.) 06 Feb 2023 10:46:14
Best result since beating Man.City 2-1.
Wolves were up for it from start,could have been 4 or 5 by half time.
Match of the Day pundits could only talk about Liverpool instead of praising Wolves.
Great performance all round.
My M-O-M Lemina.

COYW


7.) 06 Feb 2023 11:15:46
Wombourneron, I have to disagree about Traore. He was aiming for Jimenez and he never saw Neves. That’s why the pass looked too heavy. Only the brilliance of Neves first touch enabled the goal. He will always get you off your seat but it’s almost always going to be on hope rather than expectation. He will forever be an enigma.


8.) 06 Feb 2023 11:38:10
Cheers Steve you guys are the next best thing.
Up the wolves.


9.) 06 Feb 2023 15:03:43
Tommo perhaps for one week you could lay off Traore! He performed well no matter who the ball was for it was going into the right area plus the pass later for Raul was on a plate for him. He does right but he's wrong. Some people just have to have a dig!


10.) 06 Feb 2023 16:44:41
It dosnt matter where the ball was going Thommo it's how and who put it there. Traore takes the rap a lot but never the praise.


11.) 06 Feb 2023 18:58:07
Have to agree,but I'm biased,traore is a speed merchant,any defender would be whacking it,with him running at them,I know he doesn't always get it right,but everyone's out of their seat when he's on a run,let him carry on,I'm sure he's getting more confident under lopetigu,who knows he might get better,so beware rest of league


12.) 06 Feb 2023 23:16:09
Baza, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on podence, he was looking a bit off colour.


13.) 07 Feb 2023 06:20:06
Tommo just giving an account in reply to Wombourneron nothing wrong in that.
Tommo didn't say he didn't play well just what he sees in Adama.
This uncomfortableness everytime a poster posts how it is with Adama is not right and off putting.


14.) 07 Feb 2023 10:38:19
Thanks Phil.
Ken I am not a regular Adama knocker at all. I have stated my opinion on his final ball on occasions but I actually think he played quite well on the day. My comment is based on watching him home and away over the last 3 years and he gets your hopes up but almost always let's you down. He did play on Raul very well though and is a threat. However, opposition defenders have stopped doubling or even trebling up now as they know he is not flying past them anymore but coming inside (just where they want him to be). Defences clearly don’t see him as the threat they once did and Sarabia is on another level. I have to say having met him twice he is a lovely bloke and has time for everyone he meets.


15.) 07 Feb 2023 15:06:46
Tommo I didn't say you were a regular knocker I just find it frustrating that after a monumental victory as this someone has to comment on something he's done or not done. He frustrates out of me a great deal but he's exciting to watch. No one mentions both Kilman and Dawson making errors that should have given away goals. I think sometimes its because peoples expectations are greater from him than from others.


16.) 07 Feb 2023 17:24:59
Ken68: you actually said ‘for one week lay off him’ - that kind of intimates I do it regular, which I don’t.
Abbeywolf: of course it matters where the ball was going as it meant he accidentally got it to Neves.
Wombourneron: you said ‘up for it with his end product’!
I’m just pointing out that his end product was by accident.
Don’t forget that I was commenting on posts that I disagreed with, that’s all.
Lads, yes I accept he is exciting to watch but I maintain that he will be forever an enigma and a player with so much potential that no one will ever unlock as one vital part is missing.


17.) 08 Feb 2023 15:26:22
Sorry if I didn't make it clear I meant everyone in general.


 

 

03 Feb 2023 19:51:55
Sounds like Neto is not far away.
Be like a new top class signing.

wombourneron

1.) 03 Feb 2023 20:21:29
The squad is a lot stronger than it was on 31st December 2022.


2.) 03 Feb 2023 23:08:56
Not many moaning now!


3.) 04 Feb 2023 10:58:39
If our new signings live up to their reputations we will beat Liverpool today,but even if we don't win I hope we give them a good game and I am confident of that.COYW


 

 

01 Feb 2023 17:27:49
What a great window!
The icing on the cake for me would be to see Neto and Traore back in full training.

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1.) 01 Feb 2023 19:14:03
Difficult l know, given that some of the new arrivals have yet to play but would be interesting to hear how fans rate the signings in order of potential impact and importance for improved results. My list.

1/ Dawson
2/ Cunha
3/ Sarabia
4/ Lemina
5/ Gomes
6/ Keeper?


2.) 01 Feb 2023 20:33:33
Pretty much in agreement Winton but I think Gomes will rise above Lemina as the season progresses and he gets more game time.

We need Dawson in defence and Cunha and Sarabia up front to excel, clean sheets and goals being equally important.


 

 

 

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01 Sep 2023 21:00:42
If that is the end of our incomings it has turned out far better than I thought it would a week or two ago.
UTW

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31 Aug 2023 14:17:49
The old saying.
If they are good enough they are old enough.
UTW

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18 Jun 2023 16:35:48
Perfect for me.
Decent price.
Not have to face him.
Invest wisely with the cash.

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26 Jan 2023 22:33:04
Bril`.
Well played Rated.
Will sleep easier tonight!

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26 Jan 2023 21:51:19
Are you sure Rated?

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26 Sep 2023 21:47:10
To right guys.
Very poor.

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31 Aug 2023 18:55:33
Saints have signed a striker for 10m.
Adams could be available.

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05 Aug 2023 19:52:14
I go back a few more years Wolfie63.
However I agree with all you have said.
Gomes or "pit bull" I really like and we are getting more players in the box at a faster tempo.
UTW

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26 Jul 2023 14:21:44
46 quid in the Steve Bull.
They really are taking the whatsit

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25 Jul 2023 21:29:34
Doombed, doombed I tell ye!

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