28 Sep 2023 10:48:34
Anyone on here seriously think we would be in this position had Fosun given Nuno the financial backing he deserved?

1.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 11:12:00
No. I believe Nuno was our best Manager yet. Was liked by all media, players, fans etc. He bought the 'pack' mentality to Wolves. Unfortunately Fosun stopped backing him in my humble opinion and we're now reaping the results.
Would welcome him back again, no problem. Not sure he could sort this mess out though.

2.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 11:22:40
Definitely not, just proves their limitations on ambition, seems like their happy just ticking over, and making do. Under fosun were going no further, it's survival battle forever, but only a matter of time before we get relegated
Untill then, coyw,

3.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 11:39:44
You don't even have to go that far back, I honestly think if we had just managed to keep Lope we would be right behind Villa right now! I know the man was a born quitter but there's no getting away from the fact we were making very real progress under him! ?

4.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 12:31:41
Bully, Lopetequi, like all our recent managers, found Shi impossible to work with.
If I was O'Neil, I would do the same as Lopetegui and push for the big payoff and move on with my career.

5.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 13:44:46
I get your point Rugeley but that approach only works if your confident you will get another Prem job. Unless things change (drastically) can you honestly see any Prem clubs wanting to employ GON after us?! I hope so cause it will mean he turned things round but right now I can't help feeling like we have some guy who arrived on some kind of work experience programme! ?

6.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 14:13:21
When it comes to Gon Rugeley I honestly think he's a fish out of water here, to much too soon. He'd be far better off learning the trade in a lower division. I hope he proves me wrong and turns things around, but I've been thinking that each game. Man u wasnt his doing and apart from the 1st half against Liverpool we havnt looked much like a team, and that 1st half was really all about neto. So I don't think Shi effects him. In nuno and Jlo yes.
We seem to forget the Bruno element in between things and the damage done then releasing players.
We're now in the strange position of having a coach, sacked by Bournemouth, with no true pedigree, trying to lead us away from the style being coached by Jlo. The players aren't looking happy playing his way and we the fans aren't either. This in turn puts more pressure on them. Shi has got a big problem developing, and he's the guy who employs, or trusts hobbs to recommend to him because he dosnt seem to have been hands on in GONs appointment. It's slip shod panic buying of a coach to replace Jlo at short notice and it hasn't worked so far.

7.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 14:29:14
It feels like deja vu Bully.
Santo left frustrated and squad morale was low.and here we are 3+ years later in the same place!

8.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 15:18:28
Just take a step back guys.
As soon as the season finished Shi headed to China till a few days before the start of the new season. So he never got involved with taking on GON. Now GON may or may not succeed here I can only prey he does, but with only TWO backroom staff he has his work cut out.
Regards JLo, SHi was not around to give him the truth about FFP because he knew he could handle JLo who was his own man and wouldn't tolerate interference from Shi or Mendes regarding team selection or player selection. BUt he was cut off at the knees in the close season with the panic sale to balance the books. Hobbs told him that Plan B was to acquire young talent, which he accpeted only to find Shi even blocked that. So he had a boss who avoided him and didn't tell him the truth. What would you have done? Oh and when negotiating he release he offered to take a cut in his compensation.
So this whole mess rests squarely on the shoulders of Shi.
Hobbs has tried to do what he can with the money from the sale on Nunes in the few days that were left
GON is on a hiding to nothing and yes he will get a job in the Chamoinship, you watch

9.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 16:02:49
I agree with a lot of your point Barton but let's not be celebrating that he 'took a cut in compensation'! It is an absolute disgrace that we had to pay him any compo at all considering he was walking and not being fired! I blame Jeff for a lot of things but Lope is equally culpable for this mess! How many Prem managers can you think of that walked from a Prem team, with no job lined up AND still got compensation for it?! Disgraceful the whole lot of um! ?

10.) 28 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 21:48:21
Sevlow - I am sure you know my answer as I have made no secret of the fact that I am a massive Nuno fan!
But I just wanted to comment on your point on the financial backing post Seville.
Fosun to be fair to them have backed the club with lots and lots of cash - hence we have been, and if we are honest probably remain, in a massive hole re FFP.
It is just that post Seville, when seemingly Jeff took over running the club from the 3 men who had made such an incredible success of virtually everything they touched, it has been astonishingly badly spent! 
Fabio, Hoever, Trincao and Guedes for example have all been total disasters! {Indeed it could be argued that Wolves would have been better off if they had never taken the field for them yet between just the 4 of them (1 of whom was only here for a 1 year loan!), they have/will cost well over £130m including salaries}.  There are also others who have been far from good value - Semedo, Sarabia and Cunha of the existing squad stand out.
So I would actually say that whilst Nuno, if allowed to continue to manage the club with his 2 partners, would obviously have hugely outperformed the actual performance of the club post Seville, he would also have spent far far less money and saved them a fortune on paying off management teams as well!
Note that this outperformance on the pitch would also have generated vast amounts more in revenue - higher league position, cup runs, Europe and surely eventually even Jeff would have been able to parlay that level of achievement into higher commercial revenues! 
So losing Nuno has not only destroyed the club on the pitch but also destroyed it financially as well.
Well done Jeff!

11.) 29 Sep 2023
28 Sep 2023 21:52:38
Absolutely BullysBoy.