01 Oct 2020 19:22:25
For the first time tonight I've got it
The business plan has been explained to me the project has been explained to me.
There will be no more signings unless we get a gift horse
We have made a huge gamble a huge gamble
You better believe Mendes will deliver or our club is on the edge
I am the Realist what you read is the truth
Yow ain't sin me rite.
01 Oct 2020 20:08:41
So, if no more signings how can Mendes deliver any furthrr in this transfer window. We have players to unload but if they are not Mendes clients how can he justify involvement. Surely the issues now are (1) developing a successful playing style (2) achieving results which keep us in contention for a European place (3)balancing FFP (4) balancing cashflow with empty stadiums (5) acquiring homegrown talent to meet EUFA requirements. We have not over committed this transfer window, the sale of any one or two of Neves, Raul or Traore will wipe off any loss on young player gambled and takes us massively into profit. There are no other external creditors, this is clearly not a risk game for Fosun, unless you have some other previously unidentified exposure.
01 Oct 2020 20:10:53
Mendez has lined his own pockets . He has killed our transfer stru cture . Can't remember our last signing where he wasn't involved . In 3 years when these kids have filled out we will be awesome . Dunno what division we will be in by then!
01 Oct 2020 20:49:02
No Palhina in Sporting Lisbon squad for tonight’s Europa Cup match.
Everton signed Godfrey from Norwich, opens up opportunity for Bennett to get his preferred move back to Norfolk.
01 Oct 2020 20:53:57
Wozza10, can you remember as far back as last week? Ki Jana Hoever. Or maybe 3 weeks ago? Marcal. There you go, 2 signings who had nothing to do with Jorge Mendes.
01 Oct 2020 20:59:04
We really could do with Paulinha.
01 Oct 2020 21:00:53
Ok has hoever was part of the deal that stole Jota for 500k up front . Jota was a Mendez client . The 45 million we won't see for 2 years!
01 Oct 2020 21:03:53
Wozza probably can't remember his own name tbf like most WUMs.
01 Oct 2020 21:37:11
No he wasn't part of the deal taking Jota to Liverpool. The deals were negotiated at the same time but Hoever was signing for us regardless of Jota moving.
{Ed001's Note - that's sort of true but also incorrect. It is the Jota deal that wouldn't have happened without Hoever moving, as he was the initial downpayment, so he was very much part of the deal for Jota.}
01 Oct 2020 23:15:12
Ecosse. Palhinha wasn't in the Sporting squad on Sunday either. Not worth reading too much into that. Mind you who knows. They normally do stuff quietly, except Semedo obviously.
02 Oct 2020 00:38:07
Thanks for the clarification Ed 👠But still all I'm reading into that is that Nuno clearly sees Hoever as more of a long term prospect for the club than he saw Jota to be. That's not to say anything on Jotas quality mind, just the realities of the game. Wozza you bang on about Mendes without the first clue about the man! Don't get me wrong I'm not naive enough to think this business doesn't work in his favour but when he met Fosun I'm pretty certain his yearly profits were (comfortably) higher than that of Wolves! I'm not saying his dealings with the club aren't within his own interest but you bang on like it's a one way relationship! We got Jota and Neves to swap Champs League for the Championship and they didn't even bat an eye! Did it ever occur to you that promises were made? Cause it seems entirely likely to me that Jorge went to them and said "give me 2-4 up years of your best and I'll get you a move to a top club"! And were any of us complaining when Diogo and Rueben were tearing the championship a new one?! Yes the relationship has (no doubt) worked for Jorge but its worked for us as well! We've had three years of a TOP class player then made £30m to boot, please tell me where the problem is in that?! I understand being suspicious of Mendes but if you knew ANYTHING about the man you'd realise that he REALLY doesn't need us to make his money! He's at the top end of a business where money makes itself! Clearly Fosun and Jorge have decided to try and find or more likely create (with the idea to sell on) a different way of running a club. I'm not saying it'll work only time will tell. But you keep making Mendes out to be some kind of tinker with tarmac and frankly its laughable! Like the man or not (I'm still on the fence) BUT he is clearly a VERY successful business man, with or without Fosun! COYW ðŸº.
02 Oct 2020 07:14:47
Made some very good points Bullys. There is a very small section of our fanbase who still seem to think we are in some way hard done by! Just look at the progression in a short space. Every player who comes in is doubled/ tripled in value. Make no mistake we are going to sell more when the price is right.
I.
02 Oct 2020 10:13:49
We have to accept that financially we are still struggling to compete in the top half of the prem. Look at the quality of the second teams that Arsenal and Liverpool put out last night. Or for that matter even Brighton put out against Man Utd. Hopefully we have a fallback plan which may include the likes of MGW if the team is cleaned out of top players. Don't think that will happen like that. But the folks who want to just forget about the Lambert days and expect to get the double over Citeh each year are just delusional. Be grateful for what is on offer.
02 Oct 2020 11:05:40
Well said Bully. I don't know why it is a surprise to people that agents such as Mendes make money! We all need to make money and Mendes makes more that most people; so do footballers. Also, Wozza has moaned that it will take two years to get the Jota money in. This is a gross oversimplification of deals in general these days. It would be extremely rare for a club to pay 100% upfront cash. Deals are structured in very complex ways, sometimes over a period of several years. If we buy a player this weekend I'm sure we will pay on the never-never.
02 Oct 2020 11:10:50
Wozza10 is clearly a troll.