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13 Jan 2022 14:53:42
Re Adama Traore I actually wonder at the intelligence of the advice he gets from his agent. Talk about the new contract for him has been going on for what, 18 months? Apparently we were offering around an extra 50k a week so if he'd signed he'd have made around 4 million extra in that time. Would he be worth any more than the 20 million being quoted? Actually I doubt it frankly. As much as I love watching him crowd off their feet, great to watch! But everywhere he's played the comments are always about the lack of end product. That is still the same. As much as I want him to stay if he goes to Spurs and Conte then so be it. All I will say if Conte can turn him into either a wingback or a world beater then he deserves to be called a brilliant coach, but I have my doubts.
Anyway I still think his agent is a bit dumb!

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13 Jan 2022 15:59:50
I think agents often are responsible for players getting unsettled/not signing contracts etc.

13 Jan 2022 17:34:39
I completely agree Ken and I actually think the case is even stronger than you say! So as you say I believe he was on £40/50k a week and we've been offering 70-100k week (probs nearer the £100k by the most recent offer). As you say that basically equates to making an extra £4m in the last two years. Now the argument from his POV of not signing was probs always with an eye on a move but that's why it was short sighted cause he could have signed and STILL got the move! Let's be honest we saw with Jota that if we are offered even a half decent wedge (£40m) then we take the money. So he could have got his extra £4m (plus substantial signing on fee I might add) and had things gone to plan probs STILL got his £40m move to Spurs/WHU come the end of this season! Also in this scenario we would have made a fair return, unlike what is actually likely to happen!
Not just that but when he got that move Adama would have been in an EVEN stronger position for an even bigger ​wage as he would have been coming from a contract on £100k a week rather than £50k! Like you say just poor advice, seems to be a regular problem these days look at Docs! I think a lot of agents just see their next signing on fee with any move more often than not, it's shameless ?

13 Jan 2022 18:19:17
BB agreed! Someone is a bit of round thing on a door! Best not say it I guess!

14 Jan 2022 06:21:39
He has reportedly changed agents to Jorge Mendes.

14 Jan 2022 09:00:13
wittonian. He switched to Uncle Jorge about 18 months ago. Still pretty dumb though imo how to keep yourself on less than you could be. Still Jeff can count it.

14 Jan 2022 10:58:10
We payed 18 million for him had 4 years out of him and I think you all have it wrong he will end up at Barcelona no brainer were he first started I really don't think unless it's 40 million plus we are that stupid to sell him to a rival for penny's sod it I'd rather keep him for his 18 months contract then let him go for nothing

14 Jan 2022 11:42:50
Agree with you GAG.

14 Jan 2022 12:41:26
I agree with your sentiment GAG but I'm afraid sentiments don't pay the bills. Don't forget we had a sanction last FFP check, there's absolutely no way they will be letting an asset like Adama walk for free. Yes £20m is poor business but it's a position we've put ourselves in through poor transfer/contract management. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be amazed if he's not sold within this or the next window. Just don't think we are at a place yet where we can just write off £20m, how would we afford to replace him exactly?

14 Jan 2022 14:00:47
His asset value will be around 3m now so if sold for 20m we sit on an ffp profit of 17m. I think that is how it works! Future will tell us I'm sure, he knows all about this stuff, sadly I don't! Maybe he will come on and explain it again.

14 Jan 2022 14:42:39
Probably more than 3m Ken maybe closer to 6 based on 20m and a 5 year deal meaning a 14m profit, but yes I believe you are correct with your explanation.

14 Jan 2022 20:12:50
He's going nowhere,he will sign a new contract,get a pay rise,score 6 goals in next three games,everyone's a winner,??????

15 Jan 2022 00:16:51
" if it is good for the club and if it is good for the player." so stays and has a blistering 2nd half to the season, goal + assist every other game, Barcelona take notice, swap for Trincao in the summer, sorted.

15 Jan 2022 00:39:37
Ken addressing the numbers and nothing else I believe Arddunby is correct.
We signed him for £18m circa 3.5 years ago on a 5 year contract so £3.6m a year amortisation, (18/5) means he is now in the books for roughly £5.4m.
If sold for £20m we make a profit of just over £14m.

15 Jan 2022 10:06:01
future thanks! See I do take notice I wasn't far out! One day I'll get the hang of it.
Let's have another win today it's a good habit to have.

15 Jan 2022 12:28:10
future, keeping your powder dry then.





 

 

 
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