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10 Feb 2020 07:23:22
Apologies to all your views and posts (whether right or wrong) are clear and to the point unfortunately mine are not.
Next chance I have I will run on the pitch and windmill like the Newcastle fan.

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10 Feb 2020 11:19:26
Only posting again today and last sentence codswallop due to me being wrong and spoiling/ stopping people posting.
SO please ignore my stupid posts and carry on enjoying celebrating or moaning about wolves fosun the players etc etc.
Im a goner heads proper gone.

10 Feb 2020 13:17:01
No problem, no offence Phil. Keep posting. You're a genuine Wolves fan.

10 Feb 2020 15:41:50
Keep posting Phil mate you're one of the good ones on here.

11 Feb 2020 15:30:13
Phil mate this is a forum, there is no right and wrong (unless your debating with me, joke obvs;)!
As long as you have a genuine interest in constructive chat/ debate then PLEASE don't give it a second thought fella! We all make mistakes when writing, just a day ago I was writing about how Adama LACKS pace?! ;) The thing is you are MUCH more likely to notice your own mistakes (we are all the same on that) so it might feel like your making them more often than others but trust me you aren't!
Hope your ok though fella, the strength of the wolf is in the pack! COYW ;)

11 Feb 2020 15:50:56
Phil I realise that this may be a long way from what you meant here fella but I have to be honest I can't get that last sentence of your second post out of my head. So whilst I'm sure you were not talking literally or seriously and you were more making a flippant comment on a forum BUT as you are a bloke (gonna guess middle aged no offence meant) you are in a category especially prone to not seeking help with mental health issues. Please don't take this the wrong way because it is only meant with care but on the very small chance that final sentence was in fact a (small) cry for help then please call this number: 0300 123 3393
They are called Mind and are a mental health charity, I realise this is left field and probs not needed at all but we are a pack and if one of us needs genuine help then we are all here to help ;)

12 Feb 2020 09:20:41
Come on let’s get a grip! This is a message banter rumour board for Wolves fans. Not a Samaritans hot line. Talk about snowflakes! Have a good look around u there’s always someone worse off.

12 Feb 2020 11:01:16
Paul- grow up fella, that's precisely the sort of attitude that MAKES people not seek help when its desperately needed! Haha, snowflake is such a pathetically macho term for people who's only crime is caring but hey as long as you feel like a big man?! What a lovely way to live life, there's always someone worse so why try and help anyone?! How lucky your friends must be, god help them if they ever need support!

12 Feb 2020 11:27:05
Too easy to throw the mental card in as it is the racist one. Il definitely agree to disagree with u Bullysboy ❄️.

12 Feb 2020 12:05:27
'Throw the card' what a lovely view you have of equality! I can just about guess your age and background from the above comments! Haha, no wonder you don't understand basic discrimination! With that in mind like you say I think we should leave it there, I learnt long ago not to argue against idiocy. I find you generally get pulled down to their level and then get beaten on experience! Still though Paul least you feel like a big man, well done big man! 🤣.

13 Feb 2020 07:26:32
If anyone feels they need to talk to someone, please contact me as I have access to a number of agencies who could assist.

13 Feb 2020 09:51:31
Cheers Jas, I know my responses may have been seemed a little dramatic but I have to be honest I have seen first hand the damage done when people don't get the help they need. I'd sooner look silly and over the top and offer help where it may be needed than miss a chance to reach out to someone in need ;)

13 Feb 2020 13:22:57
A lot of people seem to play or 'throw cards'. The racist card. The sexist card. The political card. The mental health card. But, the one that really matters is the latter one. That's life and death. I should know, as a mate of mine struggled for years. Just when everyone thought he was over it and thriving, he did it. We all think now that he was waiting until his life was in order so that he didn't leave a legal mess of paperwork for his family to sort out.

13 Feb 2020 13:24:30
Better to be safe than sorry BullysBoy II.
Brave to post it mate.

13 Feb 2020 20:06:10
Cheers guys, mostly for restoring my faith in the peeps on here. I'm sorry to hear that Deep, that's brutal mate. I had a similar situation and saw the devastation the lack of treatment left behind. It's something I feel strongly about (as you can probs tell from my slightly over zealous response to Paul) . But it's a VERY real fact that the mental health provision and understanding in this country can be shocking so when I get responses like 'people have it worse' or 'pull your socks up' I snap because it shows SUCH an ignorance to the realities of the issue! Anyway sorry Paul, I didn't mean to offend but you touched a nerve.
For all that said I hope your doing well Phil. Please continue to post buddy cause no one's here to look for mistakes (and let us know your ok;)

13 Feb 2020 21:01:11
No offence taken, perhaps my response was a bit bullshy, but as an employer I had an employee try the mental health card and we bent over backwards to help, havin to make sure we contacted him if not at work, learn all the do’s and dont’s, find out what meds he was on etc. But we found out he was liein and was takin the piss. This went on for a couple of months but we became suspicious when he wouldn’t let us see his medical records, as we needed to know his meds in case anything happened in the work place. So this is the reason I became sceltical, and so all I can do is apologise to people with genuine problems but I will always be sceltical after this. It is a very difficult issue to deal with and we paid him while he was off to help. Hopefully he was only a small percent as he has let people with true problems down.

14 Feb 2020 13:24:38
Paul, I had a similar problem with one employee. She was always given special treatment due to her claimed depression. We had to be so careful about employment law, so we asked her doctor to confirm if her depression was a disability under the law. The employee would not permit her doctor to reply to us! Catch 22. In the end all we could do was to play safe and assume that she had a disability. Finally she resigned claiming constructive dismissal and we heard from her lawyers that she was taking us to a tribunal. We put a firm defence in and never heard another thing ever again! If she was faking it for a big payout, that's terrible and in effect fraud. If she really had depression our conscience was clear as we always bent over backwards to treat her better than anyone else at work.

14 Feb 2020 14:16:46
Paul, there are 2 types of people in this world. Those who genuinely need help and others who lie and cheat to beat the system. Unfortunately you had contact with the latter. I personally have seen the devastation that MH has on society.

I work in an industry where I see horrific things on a daily basis but i am never offered support but simply told to clock off and go home to my wife and kids and unwind. Luckily my employer has recognised this is not acceptable and have now put measures in place.

14 Feb 2020 13:55:05
Very true Deep Throat, it’s a very tricky situation to deal with, and u do take the persons word, he was havin a lot of time off and when he realised it wasn’t washin with us he left. The good news is we weren’t left out of pocket and I hear he is employed elsewhere. So the out come worked out well for both parties, but I won’t ever give the guy the time of day as he has made me a sceltic and has let down the people with true problems.



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