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02 Oct 2020 13:46:20
Vinagre out to olympiakos . loan with 25 m by out.

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1.) 02 Oct 2020 14:29:33
Think Pepe and Palhino to come in paid with the 25m of f vinagre.


2.) 02 Oct 2020 14:48:46
Olympiakos can't pay 25 m.


3.) 02 Oct 2020 15:31:29
Behave Vinagre worth 10 at best. Pulling their pants down if they buy him for that.


4.) 02 Oct 2020 17:20:48
If true hopefully we will buy someone who is an experienced premier league player can go into the first team and make it stronger not another 1 for the future or a gamble on a player adapting to British football.
With all the other sides around and about us strengthening - some markedly- can we afford to play the long game?
At the moment the only changes to the first team are the WBs out and Semedo and presumably Marcal in (and Moutinho got old! )
Hard to judge the new guys on such limited evidence so far and maybe individually they may be just as good or even better but I fear we haven't realised out how important to the system the old guys were. Doherty was not only the second most likely to score, (from RWB! ), one of our most creative players and a big physical presence in both boxes, he also gave us the "out ball" - enabling Patricio or Coady to relieve pressure by playing it up to him on the half way line where he either brought it down and played, (linking well with Traore and Jimenez), or nodded it on. But at least we were starting 50 metres+ from our goal
Now without him we simply can't keep the ball and are being over run. Crazily Patricio was still aiming punts at Traore's head!
Lets hope Semedo is good in the air and can replace Doherty but despite a £30m + price tag that isn't going to be easy especially as he is markedly smaller in a league where physicality is at a premium.
Oh dear said I wasn't going to go on about Doherty anymore BUT didn't expect us to be quite so awful as we have been for the last two games!
I know its not a popular view but Doherty was absolutely vital to the system and without him its showing!


5.) 02 Oct 2020 18:39:11
Thefutureisoldgold. Can't disagree with much you've said here. Obviously Ait Nouri is young but from what I've read looks better than Vinagre which is positive! The whole transfer thing is crazy at the moment all clubs seem to be scrambling around, maybe we're not done yet who knows. I'm inclined to give Nuno the benefit of doubt and see where we are after the international break. On a very positive note we've not bought a 40 million pounds Joelinton!


6.) 02 Oct 2020 18:57:47
Ken you are completely correct!
I have also read that this French lad is GOING to be great and clearly Vinagre wasn't AND yes still v comfortable that Nuno will do a great job again this year.
But I am nervous about the present - where due to time (Moutinho) Injury (Otto) and a bizarre give away (Doherty) the first 11 currently looks a lot weaker whilst most other teams look a lot stronger?
Beat Fulham with a good performance and maybe we can go to Leeds with confidence - a bad performance/ result and the international break could be a worrying time.
ps Do you realise we have paid significantly more for Silva and Vitor than Man U did for Fernandes.
That is the Fernandes who is prob one of the top 6 players in the league.
If we had bought him last Jan we would now be Europa league champs and would have finished 3rd in the league. The two boys from Portugal have a lot to live up to!


7.) 02 Oct 2020 19:32:14
Thefutureisoldgold. You're right about Fernandez. No doubt we had the money but he wouldn't have come to us I don't think, I suspect Vinicius was the same even though we offered more. Sunday will be interesting if Marcal isn't fit! Who plays? Buur is going. I'm guessing Bennett will be, I hope he gets his move to Norwich he served us well! Sanderson probably will go, maybe sold. We are certainly trimming the squad a bit. I'd very much like a really class midfield player so Vitinha can play gradually rather than chucked in the deep end. Anyway what do I know!


8.) 02 Oct 2020 19:46:29
After a couple of our displays I'd love Palhina.


9.) 02 Oct 2020 20:07:29
Nuno, agreed. He hasn't played the last couple of games, maybe he's waiting with his bags packed! We can but hope!


10.) 02 Oct 2020 23:18:38
Agreed Nuno. I think he'd do a good job for us.


11.) 03 Oct 2020 09:17:14
Agreed Ken68.very physical and played well against us.


12.) 02 Oct 2020 20:07:29
Nuno, agreed. He hasn't played the last couple of games, maybe he's waiting with his bags packed! We can but hope!


 

 

02 Oct 2020 13:26:10
Vinagre loaned to olympiakos.

pzarpas7

1.) 02 Oct 2020 13:57:25
is this not the wierdest transfer window in living memory.


2.) 02 Oct 2020 14:19:55
Paving the way for a big name lwb? I hope so!


3.) 02 Oct 2020 14:29:36
Rayan Ait Nouri supposedly a done deal.


4.) 02 Oct 2020 14:35:16
Ait Nouri could be excellent. We will no doubt find out in due course. I'm guessing an improvement!


5.) 02 Oct 2020 14:38:52
Oh Barry Douglas, run down the wing for me!


6.) 02 Oct 2020 15:27:34
I know nothing about Ait Nouri, what are people's thoughts?


7.) 02 Oct 2020 17:02:06
From what I've read MattWolf it's an upgrade on Vinagre. Quicker and more end product. Plays as a LB or a LWB. We shall see!


8.) 02 Oct 2020 19:03:10
How much are we paying for the French man?
Re FFP if we really sell Vinagre for £25m that will be FFP profit of over £23m - (bought for £2m 2 years into a 5 year contract) taking FFP trading profits to over £80m
Hopefully that puts to bed any worries for the foreseeable.


9.) 02 Oct 2020 19:41:58
Just watched this young kid on youtube.
I know they pick out his best bits but he looks good, very good.
Hope this one goes through.

On a more pessimistic point. Next game Fulham. Ex player, no points,
Big strong striker. The lads looking unsettled. Been there before.
Hope they prove me wrong.
UTW.


10.) 03 Oct 2020 09:18:49
Cavaliero is bound get get one against us.


11.) 04 Oct 2020 00:11:44
Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletico and Man City were all interested in Ait Nouri so a bit of a coup if we sign him.


 

 

 

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Olympiakos can't pay 25 m.

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