09 Aug 2024 19:51:50
If it's true, and it does seem to be, then unless Neto has forced this through this is very bad news indeed and a brain dead decision!
We sold Jota for just over £30m plus Hoever, i.e. just over £30m and at the time I didn't complain because his head had gone and it was affecting his performances.
Try buying him back now - no chance for less than say £70m+
But Neto, when fit, was flying. He is now fit!
Try buying him back in January it will be well over £100m.
We will have sold one of the top players in the premier league, better than Jota and probably vying with Palmer to be their best player for a relatively modest fee in today's market - seemingly nearly £20m less than Spurs are paying for Solanke and less than £20m more than Fulham are paying for Smith Rowe who has done nothing for several years now!
He also is costing less than Nunes was sold to City for!
Palmer was £40m but had no track record - a great signing for them. Neto for only a few million more is a proven game changer at the top end of the league and far better than anyone else in their squad despite costing a lot less than most.
An amazing deal of the decade deal for them!
Yes we are selling them their best player (ish ) for less than other clubs have sold them v average players!
Why haven't we learnt from Brighton and Leicester etc etc .
Don't sell your best players for relative pennies!
Gomes to be fair looks v good as a replacement but we have gone from a side most people think will be just above the relegation battle, (but I thought would come in the top half), to a side many/most will think are a lot weaker - and we are!
I don't think we will go down but those odds have shortened and our chances of challenging for the 6th, 7th sort of placing have almost gone entirely!
We must now get in a top quality CB or two, (if we are playing 3cbs we certainly do as Yerson is untried, Toti can't play in a 2 yet and Dawson may be done!), and probably sadly another high quality forward as Gomes, Cunha and presumably Hwang isn't enough - Sarabia, Guedes, Podence etc are a big drop off in quality. I'm also not convinced Larsen is Prem quality yet but accept he is an option to play a different way than we previously could!
A v sad day that I suspect is self inflicted but of course only Neto and the club really know!


1.) 09 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 20:19:40
Thefutureisoldgold you have to take his injury record in over the last 3 seasons. Nobody is going to pay 7o mill for some who's record is as bad as Netos will you get more than half a season who knows but 54 mill I think is a good deal.


2.) 09 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 20:36:28
Sorry TFIOG, but I don't agree. Neto has been a fantastic player for us a wish him every success, but unfortunately his injury record speaks for itself. Without that undoubtedly he would be a £100Mill player and Chelsea are taking a huge risk at that price although in saying that maybe (and I don't know how) they can afford to pay that much for someone who may only play for 15-20 games/season. Personally I suspect GON has another suitable replacement to come in along with maybe another 1-2 signings. As much as it's frustrating there's always another Neto, Jota, Neves out there. It's up to our scouts etc to find them and integrate into the squad. We still have a great team, no FFP concerns and I suspect we'll have further reinforcements before the transfer window ends.


3.) 09 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 20:56:12
123 - I hear you and if he is injured as often as he has been for the last 3 years over the next 5 maybe it will be a fair deal for us. But if he stays fit it is a truly awful deal for us!
Why are the add ons so low, why aren't we getting sone of the upside if he stays fit?
Although I wouldn't have done it maybe structure it as £50m now, (even for half a season a year he is worth that - with him we regularly win without we normally lose - see last year!) and add ons for the games he plays, say £250k per game upto a max of 40 pa for the next 5 years.
That way if he is fully fit for the next 5 years we get the £100m he is obviously worth cf Mudryk, Anthony, Caicedo (sp) and Enzo.
I accept that there is obviously a risk in a transfer with a player with a poor injury record but we appear to be taking all of the risk and Chelsea are buying at the damaged goods bargain basement price!


4.) 09 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 21:44:18
Despite his undoubted class, I wonder if any other club than Chelsea with their trademark scattergun approach to spending would have risked such a high cash fee on Pedro, given that injury record. You've got to see it from the financial side. Sure, Neto could have stayed fit and led us to a European place. Or, he could equally have been injured in the first game and out for the season with another serious blemish on his future transfer value. Reluctantly, as long as the money is available quickly and spent wisely in the necessary areas, I'm with the club on this one. I wish him well for the future, and thank him for his excellentservice.


5.) 09 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 21:50:45
If Gomes continues his impressive form I have no doubt we have a player on our hands.


6.) 10 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 23:19:40
I agree with TFIOG on this one, selling Kilman was borderline but Neto just a couple of days after GON said he wanted to keep him and Neto himself said he wanted to help Wolves achieve things just smacks of cashing in. Having said that injuries or not in the past even if you did just want the money surely he's worth more.

We seem to make progress then sell off our best players and start again, let's hope mid table mediocrity is not the ambition of the club.


7.) 10 Aug 2024
09 Aug 2024 23:47:44
Blackford - I wrote my reply to 123 before seeing your comment but whilst you say you disagree you actually seem to be saying the same as me!
Yes Chelsea can easily afford £50m for a player that only plays half a season. They have literally dozens of players many of whom will only play circa half a season at most and some of those will have cost much more than £50m. Nkunku (sp) Lukaku, Mudryk, Fofana, Arrizabalaga (sp) Lavia, Sterling and Cucerella (sp) off the top of my head last season alone.
If he moves them from Europa to Champions league in those 20 or so games - quite possible - he will pay for himself in one season!  (Did you watch his game at the Bridge last year? He absolutely destroyed them and they were incredibly lucky to get away with only 4 conceded it could have been 5, 6 or even 7!) 
So at that price I don't think they are taking a risk at all! 
You also agree that if he is fit, (surely despite his record over the last 3 years not impossible?, ) he is worth £100m so Chelsea get all that upside and we get none? Why aren't we getting add ons based on his fitness i.e. how often he plays?
Agree there is always a Neto, Jota or Neves out there but also a Fabio, Guedes, Jose, Hoever, Sasa, Trincao etc etc.
If you think it's easy differentiating ask Southampton or Leicester they sold players for years but eventually you find one too many Fabios and not enough Jotas and you are relegated. 
I guess sadly we are simply acknowledging our status and ambition - we are a badly run club that lost £107m before player sales in the last accounts - so we always have to sell our best players and are, it seems, happy to survive for a few years before we eventually and inevitably get relegated.
I accept that it is incredibly hard to compete with the big teams - although Villa, Newcastle and W.H. are making a good fist of it and Brighton, Brentford and to a lesser extent Bournemouth are trying, ( sell players, even relatively modest ones, for big fees not pennies is a good starting place!) - but it appears it is impossible whilst having to carry (sorry BB) Jeff! 
ps Vb re J Gomes how long for and what will we sell him for? He is already a dominant CM in the Prem but clubs know we sell cheap so bids are currently, was it £38m from MU, derisory!


8.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 07:18:53
Pedro is a game changer and our form seemed to dip after he got injured however we were still winning matches without him until both Cunha and Hwang also got injured. Neto was our most attacking player but injuries to other players is what cost us. Hopefully Strand Larsen and Gomes will lighten the load for Cunha and Co.


9.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 08:29:17
Putting a lot of faith in R gomes.who has actually only played a few friendlies. NOT a competitive prem game yet.and itd be a foolish move to send h bueno out on loan.depleting a STILL barebones squad with a very weak bench.in all areas


10.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 08:51:34
Spot on TFIOG. I couldn’t agree more. No wonder other clubs always seem to be sniffing round Wolves for bargains! Yes let’s all hope R Gomes fulfills his potential.


11.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 09:01:46
A lot of the deliberation above seems to centre around Neto's price and it's relation to his fitness. If Neto stays fit for a reasonable amount of time it should then be asked, why? What were the wolves trainers doing that was wrong? If he gets injured in the hamstring again then it's a good deal. However Neto wanted to stay.


12.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 12:19:48
Chelsea are probably one of the few clubs with the size of squad that they work with who can carry an injury prone player, I suspect he will be used as a game changer, either replaced after an hour regularly or given 30 minutes from the bench. We don't carry the squad, so had to risk him week in week out.


13.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 12:24:32
If he fails his medical will we be happy?


14.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 12:55:45
Personally I wish we had not done this and kept him for another year. If he could have played this next season and stayed fit that would have guaranteed his true value of 80-100m. Such a shame.
COYW


15.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 13:12:28
The way the Prem has gone with the likes of Man C ensuring they can break FFP and lesser clubs forced to abide by the rules, we will remain a selling club to survive and possibly compete. It is the only way we can raise income to improve our position. Raise season ticket prices and look at the outcry. Under current rules we cannot have it both ways. Man C lawyers will see to that.


16.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 13:23:42
TFIG - I meant Rodrigo Gomes


17.) 10 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 14:27:34
Vb- apologies!
I agree that he has looked extremely promising in pre season and I am hopeful he will be an adequate or better than adequate replacement.
We may even be able to sell him for big (ish) money in a couple of years time!
Feeling v frustrated at whole thing.
Money rules everything and as Wimborne and others state sadly Fosun, and especially with Jeff at the helm seemingly unable to either drive revenue or control costs, can't compete!
We were perhaps just 12 months away however from the end of Fabio bleeding us for £11m+ pa and Guedes could be gone by then as well. Consequently the sale of our best player is a short termist, unnecessary, self inflicted wound that will set us back again by another cople of years until Gomes R is hopefully at the level we require! But by then will we have sold more of the family silver - Gomes J or RAN?
Lemina and Dawson will be probably be done by then in any case so its just hard to see how we ever get to compete without changing our financial status!
Jeff that means you!


18.) 11 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 15:27:46
Anybody remember a fellow called Adama Traore? Anyone remember how much we were going to get if we sold him early after one of his good seasons and how much we actually got for him?
Pedro was one injury from being a £20 million player so Wolves took the sure thing.
Someone else will replace him, possibly Rodrigo.


19.) 11 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 16:29:42
Another thing to remember is if they buy him, their competitors don't. How much is that worth?


20.) 11 Aug 2024
10 Aug 2024 16:37:10
R Gomes has played plenty of games against better competition than many Premier League clubs.