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29 Jan 2018 18:33:58
Reading on twitter that Villa also want Afobe. Is this just talk to give Wolves a kick up the backside and put pen to paper? Or would we call their bluff and risk having him play at that place down the M6?

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29 Jan 2018 19:02:31
Bournemouth want a sale.
Villa can't do it.
They can only match our offer.
Where would you go?

29 Jan 2018 19:54:16
Wolves as he has previous experience playing there as well as they are nearer the premier league.

29 Jan 2018 20:17:34
This will go to the wire.

29 Jan 2018 21:05:20
Ya mean the previous experience he had with us when he had a VERY public spat with Kevin Thelwell, ya know that guy that is STILL our Sporting Director and also often plays a big role in recruitment?! Should be interesting then!

29 Jan 2018 22:36:16
It’s interesting. There was fault on both parts; false promises, immature attitudes and people’s careers been questioned (all of Jackett, Afobe and Thelwell) . But ultimately the fans and the player have lost out in this episode. Fans in the fact they lost a player that genuinely looked like he could develop into a fine player (both goal scorer and creative outlet) . But Afobe as well as the money can only satisfy certain players. Afobe did have a genuine passion for the game. Both shown in his scoring exploits and some games as a lone striker where he was everything going forward he came short, played some one in or ran at the opposition it was crazy to watch he went from a striking triumvirate to striking solo and I felt it was harsh on everyone (fans and player) because it had the feeling of something special. Maybe we can question sako more? As he was part of that 3 and showed no loyalty. Maybe we can blame Moxey, Morgan, Jackett or Afobe’s agent. It’s hard to pinpoint. UTW.

30 Jan 2018 09:13:11
Sorry Anewdawn, but I think that is harsh to question Sako's loyalty. He stuck with us when we went down to League 1, stayed with us until the end of his contract despite offers from clubs in higher leagues in those respective seasons.

He did not engineer his way out of the club during his contract, unlike Afobe, so to say he showed no loyalty is out of order.

For the record though, I wouldn't be unhappy to see Afobe back as he will fire us up having experience and success in this league and I think he will have a point to prove in the Prem given his experience at Bournemouth.

30 Jan 2018 09:35:45
we are now apparently after a permanent deal for Afobe rather than a loan.

30 Jan 2018 10:57:49
Sorry Statto I wasn’t questioning his loyalty as such. I was merely questioning what was going on behind the scenes. As if I remember rightly it took Sako a while to confirm what he was doing. Maybe the wolves matched his wages. doubtful but not out of the question. As I said at the end of the previous post ‘it’s hard to pinpoint’ as an outsider. Maybe it was a reason for Morgan selling up. Who knows? But it must be hard treating your employees well and then having that thrown in your face.

It is well noted that I would like Afobe back. Not because I think he is a superstar or world class. He can do a job for us over the next six months. His direct running, vision and goals will get us over the line. Not too fussed if it is a loan or signing. Either way we gain.

30 Jan 2018 11:01:31
Just a personal feeling that you should never go back, particularly if there is baggage. Once promoted we will have our pick of Europe with Mendes making the intro's. Sign Grabban now as additional support we don't need a big name. Then come the summer we will have more cash to play with and stay within FFP rules.

30 Jan 2018 11:24:48
Fair enough Anewdawn, you are right that no one knows what goes on behind the scenes. You did state "he was part of that 3 and showed no loyalty" which I thought was unfair and responded to accordingly.

Anyway, whoever comes in, whether it's Afobe or someone else, let's trust that Nuno knows what he is doing as he has done little wrong so far! The way that the club has been turned around in the matter of 6 months warrants that faith I think.

30 Jan 2018 13:36:33
Let's forget all this loyalty stuff. These are professional footballers, and the deal is whatever the contract says it is. Edwards was loyal, so was Stearman, so was Henry. Players like Price patiently waited for their chances for years.

Players need to go where they can to further their careers. Because clubs won't do that for them. We might be cheering on Jota, Neves and Boly today but we don't know if they'll be with us next season. Or even at the end of the transfer window.

When it comes to it, all we can want is what's best to further the club's standard of football. Players will always come and go, as do managers and owners. If the time is right for Afobe then that's fine by me. I was more annoyed when Edwards was sold but time has been a great healer and his replacement, Neves, has more than proven himself in that position.

So I don't care if Afobe or Sako or further back, Kightly or Jarvis or Fletcher or anyone else has been loyal. They did what they were paid to do and we loved them in their time.

30 Jan 2018 14:17:14
Respect Statto. I did mean loyalty to team mates, manager and club hierarchy that at the time did have them near the play offs. I didn’t mean against the club nor fans.

From Afobes reaction it would seem that the club didn’t do all that it could to persuade Sako to stay. Which would have been frustrating at 22 yrs old when you want to be achieving all your goals. Whilst also been immature with how he reacted to it.

And I do completely agree in Nuno we trust. Let’s get behind them and make some noise Saturday. UTW.

30 Jan 2018 14:29:03
I'm sure Sako was part of the team that took us down to L1. Loyalty, guilt or too expensive for another championship club at the time?

30 Jan 2018 16:44:46
Sako was by far our best player when we went down to L1. Those were the dark days of Henry (K), Johnson and OHara and who knows what nonsense was going on behind the scenes.

Sako took his chances and stayed with Wolves and Kenny rebuilt the team, with Golbourne, Henry (J), Jacobs, Ricketts etc and what a great season it was - bettered only by this one. OK, easier teams, but great to be winning again and then marching up the Championship afterwards.

30 Jan 2018 18:28:36
See for me its not about loyalty because that has LONG been an outdated commodity in football. Was like when Sterling threw his toys out the pram at Pool and all there fans were asking after his loyalty well they knicked him on yts from QPR so his 'loyalty' didn't bother them at that point did it?! that's the problem loyalty no longer exists because they are rarely actually form that area. Take Iorfa for example he was Southend originally (probs why his head was turned when london came calling in the form of WHU 2 seasons back) or Hause was from Wycombe, so why would they feel the need to be loyal to Wolves?
No for me its more a question of professionalism, that's all I expect! And Sako was a professional, always gave his all even when we spiralled down to League 1. There in lies my issue with Benik, he lacked the professionalism to go well I'll just play my way up the leagues and force them to sell as they won't be able to refuse the size of the bid next window! But instead he downed tools and sulked around for four months whilst still being one of the highest earners!
Still I meant it genuinely it would be VERY interesting to be at that meeting especially when you consider what was actually said Thelwell -"Benik was no longer trying to play for us. That was undermining everything we were trying to achieve" now that's pretty strong words in public. oh to be a fly on the wall when they meet! ;)



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