28 Apr 2016 14:29:18
I really think everyone's getting a bit carried away at the moment regarding the sponsorship and the potential sale.
1) it's not nailed on that we will be sold at all, let alone within a year, so everyone needs to be patient and just wait and see. I know it's difficult, because we've had a backwards season and everyone wants to see where we're heading now but, the fact is, none of us are going to know what's happening until it has happened, it's the wolves way.
2) Some of KJ's decisions this season have confused me, and many others, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is a bad manager. Not every manager can have a great season every year. Don't believe me? Look at Mourinho this season. And "bad managers" can make a turnaround as well. (Hint: Ranieri) .
3) Regarding the money shop, like most fans, I don't think the sponsor is an ideal fit. However, I do think people are overreacting just a little bit with the claims that its ruining the club and it's legacy and whatnot. I know plenty of football fans, as I'm sure many of you do, and not a single one is bothered by the fact that they sponsor, in fact most football fans I know didn't even have a clue that they were our new sponsor. So claims that people will only associate us with payday loans are probably a bit far fetched.
Most of you will probably disagree with me on all of this, but I'm just reporting the facts.
28 Apr 2016 16:23:06
I was born Wolves, but grew up rural and became a Professional marketeer, so I guess became middle class. I know what identity means, and that Wolves-Moneyshop is almost impossible for many people to support, particularly rural and middle class, it's not part of their World and they won't be willing to identify with it.
Despite being born Wolves, whose Dad supported Wolves through the 50's and 60's (and despite Wolves being my only tangible link to him) and despite me having supported them all my life, the moment they step out in those Moneyshop shirts, I'm done with Wolves forever.
28 Apr 2016 16:34:57
And just to add - apart from Moneyshop identity issues (that are for many people irreconcilable with Wolves and their own identity) the really big problem is Moneyshop conflicts with peoples principles.
People learn their principles by around age 7, after that it takes something monumental to change them, conflicting peoples principles is where real revolts come from. No marketing that conflicts with peoples principles has ever worked in the history of the World, it only causes disaster. Moxey thinking he can succeed allowing Wolves to be marketed with Moneyshop against peoples principles, is like that Einstein quote about expecting a different result from something that's been tested over and over again, it's insane.
28 Apr 2016 16:41:17
Middle class as transient as ever, just us working class guys to carry on then?
28 Apr 2016 17:32:04
I was born Wolves, my Dad supported Wolves, I've supported them all my life, but I'm not supporting Moneyshop Wolves, it conflicts with my identity and principles (and I believe with the identity and principles of the club and region too) .
It's WWFC that are changing, not me. To paraphrase I think one of the FC United of Manchester statements, I'm not leaving my club, my club left me.
I believe Wolves are choosing to disenfranchise a big proportion of their supporter base with this, particularly rural, are looking to turn the club entirely local and urban, they're choosing to asset strip and prostitute our identity, no one can expect anyone else to support or put up with that. But as much as I can, I'll fight to stop it because I don't want to be shut out of my club, I don't want WWFC's potential ruined, I don't Wolverhampton branding to the rest of the Country as a pay-day society, because it would blight Wolverhampton's opportunity to regenerate and improve.
29 Apr 2016 05:38:14
We only have potential with investment.It looks to me like no one other than Moneyshop was prepared to stump up the nescessary ££££'s to help realise that potential.
01 May 2016 02:08:29
I don't mean to be too dismissive or blunt when it comes to people's opinions Ulf, but I'm pretty sure you're getting too far into this whole sponsorship thing. You're making it sound as if our link to the money shop is the equivalent of our entire staff committing mass genocide at a game. Bigcheese68 is right, if there was a better option for investment out there, I'm sure we would have taken it up, and I'm pretty sure Moxey is smart enough with money to consider the potential backlash of our new sponsor before deciding. The fact of the matter is that this sponsorship deal lasts for 3 years and after that 3 years, only wolves fans will be the ones remembering our previous sponsor, no one else will remember, or even care, that we were sponsored by the money shop. And, if their money helps us buy the next Steve Bull, I can't see anyone in the molyneux complaining about its source.