Wolves Banter Archive December 30 2012

 

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30 Dec 2012 23:23:18
just watched mothd2 on bbc and heard pat nein say qpr fans singing your not fit to wear the shirt(heard that somewhere before) qpr bought all those overseas players not doing the job no commitment is that the way were going loads of oversees players who are not pulling there weight sako dont put in a shift doumbia hot and cold wont say that about siggy runs his bo-----s off but not the finished article yet to get out of this div you need a goalscorer and people who no how to get out of the championship and that aint european players over the last couple of years newcastle, sunderland reading look how many goals they scored seb, siggy and doyle aint going to do it for u



Without Sako we would be *****d so i dont know what your talking about.Here are just a few of the first team where the real problems are:
Foley- Gets himself into trouble when in possession, no imagination or quality to distribute the ball effectively upfield only leaving back to the keeper or a hospital pass to Johnson.
Berra- Totally owned by anyone he tries to mark, has the turning circle of the QE2, lacks communication with his colleagues and can't keep his arms off his opponent.
Ward- Not a natural left back, again not able to distribute the ball upfield effectively, when he does go forward he loses possession leaving the defence wide open. no skills to get past a player and just runs into trouble.
Henry- The reason why we fail to attack as much as we could. Supposed to be the link between defence and attack but invariably when we are in the final third will pass backwards to the keeper as he lacks immagination and ability to create gaps. Liability in a tackle, drifts out of position which is why Pennant or Rm spends time mopping up his mess.
Ebanks Blake- Totally unfit, a stone heavier than he was when we first got him. Offside all the time plus has whole games where he is anonymous, lacks any he pace he has and cannot control the ball very well.

Just where I think our major problems are. Priority is to get a defence that can distribute the ball effectively first and a striker then build from there.



30 Dec 2012 22:51:33
It's a good job that they make an announcement before the game 'Give a big welcome for your team - Wolverhampton Wanderers' cos I wouldn't have known it was them last 2 games - Imposters!



30 Dec 2012 22:20:23
This is completly random but warnocks double is on channel 5 ken Dodd



30 Dec 2012 21:18:36
SteveBullStand-In my opinion I believe Ebanks-Blake, Doyle and Sigurdarson can do well if they can be given the chances. There not scoring because were not giving them the chances to finsh off and this is down to the midfielders. Sako has brilliant crosses and shots but shoots in unnessecary times. Henry is good defensely but we need someone who can put those through balls in.Doumbia is very good but gives possesion up too easily. And lets be honest we never had a right winger ever since pezko was out. Ward and Foley cannot pass the ball at all.So when january comes we need another Left back, centre back and atleast a right back. With O'hara back he can start those through to the strikers.

Postions needed:
LB
RB (Definetly)
CB (Or give Baath a go?)
CM (Maybe)



+ manager on the list {Ed011's Note - I still think we need a striker



Actually i agree with you there m8 im just eager to b rid of baldy, if you look at other teams they have 4 or 5 strikers on their books who they rotate in the 1st team. siggy can be used as squad player but doesnt cut it up front especially with this dross style, other managers then maybe. but apart from that we have 2 strikers. I realy think we should get rid of him as he doesnt want to bring in a target man or a pacy forward, in other words an outlet, which we have been crying out for for a while. Wood would have been an excellent signingg and not as expensive as the fools hes brought in + proven effective and efficient



30 Dec 2012 21:06:35
me again=to that person who replied to my post listen to what i said.we are a well run financed club (true) when i said cheap crap players( my fault i meant expensive crap players) but not that expensive for a club our size! we are a business club not a football club under the 2 MM's.the balance is all wrong and yes stale should go but when players seem to be running the dressing room and not the manager it wont make a difference who we employ as our manager. i only feel sorry for us wolves fans-thats all



Me again - if the players are ruling the dressin room because they dont want solbakken why does that mean they will do that for another manager? it only means that solbakken should go. they didnt overrule mick as he got his tactics right with that group



30 Dec 2012 18:37:24
I took Joe (age 5) for his first visit to sit on the south bank yesterday, 500 mile round trip and £200 lighter I thought I would add the following as it was the first time this season after about 20 matches during the Prem years.
1. Johnson is a good player who thinks Berra is useless, some of the looks he gave him would have withered a rose. I agree with Rog
2. Ward and in particular Foley are terrible, distribution from the full backs was appalling.
Why can the defence (RJ aside who simply could not mop up the mess) not tackle/head/clear the ball - they were atrocious. Berra is an absolute clown.
3. Doyle, SEB and Siggi are bewildered by this strange system of passing sideways constantly, they need balls in the box, Doyle scored loads for Reading with his head!
4. Henry needs to be sold. Only goes sideways, he is not good enough to be a cultured passer
5. IMO we should lose Henry, play O'Hara and Doumbia in the middle with Frimpong behind them. He knows how to tackle.
6. Seriously Wolves need a LB, RB, CB and prob a striker.
Other than that, the south bank was amusing as always, my boy got spoken to by about 300 people and he had a great day spending Dad's money in the club shop and he STILL was singing "we love you wanderers" in his bed at 10pm when we got home. Bless him eh? {Ed011's Note - Lovely to hear, at least his experiences with Wolves should only improve.



Great stuff, hope for the future right now is in fans like you bringing in you children at a young age because when there old enough to know better its too late by then, your wolves it in the blood lol

Mills wolf



Godbless him so sorry we are so poor at the moment we will be good again but not under morgan or this manager



This reminds me of my younger days supporting Wolves . My first match was in 1968 as an 8 year old. At that age they could do no wrong. I used to go to bed in my Wolves hat. It must have worked cus by the time i reached 12 i'd turned into Derek Dougan.
Sorry it wasn't a winning debut for Joe but i guess he wasn't too judgmental. Hope this is the first of many for him
UTW



30 Dec 2012 18:14:23
whats the point replacing an entire squad when any british manager could get the players doing welll? its cheaper to get rid of the bald person who no one likes? we need british players to play in the british league, we are not f in barcelona remember. Why put square pegs in round holes



! square pegs? so you didnt watch a single game in the prem for the last 3 years. This team has struggled for 4 years. Need new players and new ideas!



Who is true british in the wolves {Ed011's Note - What about Watford? Who is in the Watford team really?



Johnson is, O'Hara also but he maybe part Irish.



All of the team who were promoted were from the UK as half are in the ROI national team. and by the way I went every week in the prem and we werent as outclasssed against those teams as we have been this season against teams like ipswich. and about watford, they may have a lot of continental talent, but they have people on loan from udinese because di canio got good value, they havent spent 10 mill and recieved nothing, which is why they are playoffs and we aren't {Ed003's Note - Di Canio ?? anyway the whole Watford link up thing should not be allowed imo.}



You must mean Zola mush. Plus it wasn't Zola who got the deals it's the owner he has something to do with Udinese doesn't he ed? {Ed001's Note - the owner also owns Udinese, nothing to do with the manager getting good value. Watford are just a feeder team now.}



30 Dec 2012 17:52:48
everyone forgets on here that morgan and moxey are businessmen not football men.yes the club is financially sound but in return you get cheap crap players and you get what you pay for.look at forest they are not happy with winning and being 1 point off playoff so they sack manager as they want better and to achieve more.moxey and morgan want financial gain only.stale wont get sacked morgan is a penny pincher and wont pay out, he would rather run with stale and hope for the best-my conclusion is we are not an ambitious football club- just a business club.what morgan cant understand is that sometimes you have to gamble and splash the cash.if we dont then we will be the best run club in division 1.



How can you say this, the club should be financially sound who wouldnt want it to be, look at the albion. And the players we bought aren't cheap despite moxey being a good negotiator, but they are crap. How is that their fault? they were directed by solbakken to buy the players and he has cost us around 12 mill and the players we now have are neither good enough or hard working enough to be given any chance when a decent manager comes in when this bafoon is sacked, hopefully tomorrow morning first thing



30 Dec 2012 17:44:19
28, 500 fans, 22 players, 2 linesman, 1 referee!! and a pigeon shat on me pie!



Muck for luck!



Lol yav gorra loff at summat aye ya



Damn pigeon, think he got more than your pie yesterday.

wolves 0 - pigeons 1, is there any hope?



30 Dec 2012 15:45:30
i sat in the southbank yesterday and tbh it was a total joke we never pushed forward off our own free kicks in our own half doyle n blake was hardley past the halfway line this would be great if either one of them had pace but they dont we was 2 0 down so stale akes doyle off how can any manager justify that we are the lautghing stock of the championship how anyone can blame the manager is beyond me this is not his team this is micks team 90 minuetes and 2 shots on target i really think the local pub team would of done better



"how can any manager justify that" - followed by "how can anyone blame the manager" - because he has no plan b and the undoubted replies to this can answer this for me, what has he shown this season that makes him even a half decent manager???? his signings havent matched their price tag, he cant motivate, and his style of play is awful. we leak goals even though we have reasonable defenders for this standard because he cant make them play well and he doesnt make players play to their full potential. we dont score because hie style is so predictable we are the easiest team to play against and we punt it now more than ever. i dont trust him with money. and why should we?



I must have blinked twice and missed them two shots!



But those players were having more than 2 shots on goal when mick was managing, so then solbakken is logically a worse manager than mick. and we played football the crowd liked more.they were good enough for mick to get them promoted so why cant this so called champions league experienced manager get them to beat peterborough and ipswich at home, maybe because he is no use and he knows nothing about english football, the criteria we should have used when we should have hired steve bruce, curbishley, warnock, o'driscoll or even o'neill last dec before he went to sunderland



30 Dec 2012 14:59:28
stale needs to be sacked the results are poor needs someone who knows the championship



Personally we wont know untill the karl henry click has been moved out of the club karl henry is the captain and while those 11 players are out on the pitch karl henry should motivate them to instill stales gameplan onto the opposition, the way we play is like we are lookin to do the total opposite to what they should be doing because most of the startin 11 are micks players and are stuck in his ways and to lazy to try stales way....problem today is player power...if they dont get there way....well u have seen what has happened down the wolves!!
Felixthecat



True Henry and his mates are poison at this club and need shifting ASAP. P.J.



True they are the problem at the Wolves, get shot now. UTW



How can you argue that it is the players fault? there is no gameplan. these are professionals and would not risk their job reputation by purposefully disregarding the instructions of the manager and listening to karl henry. what kind of clueless person thinks that you can replace an entire squad to the same quality we have now at the same price of just removing a useless manager and installing a new management team. Ipswich actually plaed better football than us yesterday as did peterborough, so how do you justify him being some saviour to the mol with beautiful passing style? there are some clueless persons on here that dont know anything. have you noticed in any of the recent games the gap between the def and the midfield, if this is happening week in and week out and we are conceding because of it then what kind of manager is he for not having sorted it?



U not heard about the karl henry click and the fiasco with roger johnson last season with the captains armband marlakie, karl henrys got it back now and look at roger johnson the man is immense and all is hunky dory
U tellin me these players train all wik and learn nothing cus thats what it looks like to me, do u got to the games cus if u did use see the players body language towards stale is pathetic its clear to see they dont wanna play for him, he dont bark any orders he looks dejected us he knows they aint listening poisin in the dressing room has always been a problem darn there and ile say it again untill the karl henry click av gone we aint goin anywhere
And as for risking losing the jobs there on long contracts u cant cancel a players contract cus he dont like the manager! Nuff said!
Felixthecat



Sorry didn't read your thread properly
The players all lead us to beleive its the managers fault as per usual but its becoming clear that its the players and not the manager!
Felixthecat



30 Dec 2012 13:41:42
{Ed011's Note - A while ago we were linked with Victor Anichebe, possibly in exchanged with Doyle, I quaffed at it and said we had better already. I just want to set the record straight and apologise fully, very good player who we'd have been lucky to have had.



30 Dec 2012 12:00:23
I c tamworths back stelle stabbing already! An positive opinions paul we could agree on? siewolf



Doubtful!



30 Dec 2012 11:11:53
I wish we never got promoted.
I have had 4 years now wasted on watching wolves be poor.
I have been a season ticket since I was 12 Im 48 now, but for the first time I am seriously thinking of packing it up.
yesterday was like watching a sunday league game, not once did I get excited infact truth be known I was bored to death.
so Morgan do something about it or you will lose yet another loyal fan.
rant over



Me too this is as bad as the Hoddle days!



Make that 2 loyal fans cos for the last 4 years i have been walking out the ground early.
Seriously thinking of not renewing season ticket for the first time in 22 years. cant stand this rubbish no more.
Player power is getting managers the sack and it was obv yesterday that the mccarthy old guard were playing the sacking game



Can't be that loyal if you've been walking out of the ground early FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS!!!



Been walking out cos its been s**t , i wont be standing there clapping rubbish or staying behind to BOO like some saddo's do , would you be one of them



I don't happy clap or boo, what I do is support the team!! Leaving before a game is finished is sacrilege! ...leave early to get the bus or the first pint before the bar gets busy!?! ...which is it?!? ...you're the kind of fan we don't need - its always a disgrace seeing 'fans' leaving before the whistle!!



...it's like saying you only watched the first hour of a 2 hour film and saying you didn't like the ending!?! How can you pass judgement without seeing every minute? ...watch the highlights at home do we??



You should always stay right to the end, cus you never no when we will concede another.



Im the kind of fan you dont need , well buddy i was 1 of those 5/6000 standing in the south bank in the 4th division in the 80's , where you there and standing there watching wolves getting kicked out the cup by Chorley or standing in some crappy away ground with 200 wolves fans on a freezing cold tuesday night.
Me thinks im alot more loyal than you will ever be.



Yes I was there! ...and your next failed argument is??



No you wasn't cos you wouldn't talk such rubbish



He was I saw him.



Lol what a divot! ..how can you say I wasn't there when you don't even know me? ...how can anyone believe you were there either just because you say you were?!? ...and you try to claim my views are rubbish because you don't like them!?! ...grow up!



I can't see what difference it makes if someone leaves early , they are still willing to put money in the club and thats what counts for loyalty, like he said some only stay to boo at the end because why else would you stay after watching such bad performances unless you got some issues with your brain

007



You stay to the whistle, not just with the sole purpose of booing! It's called 'support'! ...if you want to see an 80 minute game go and watch rugby!



You stay to the whistle lol
1 born every minute



30 Dec 2012 10:50:05
Just what have they done to my football club.......
I really really don't know the answer!!!
It has to be.......
Back him or Sack him
We are in a mess....... not a single shot on target after 94 mins of football.
Still trying to keep the faith
UTW

gazz r



30 Dec 2012 08:48:56
Think one of our main problems with our passing game is were to slow the tempo is to low opposing teams sit 2 banks and we can't get through them there's not enough movement off the ball midfielders to deep none running past the strikers full backs don't overlap think this is down to the players we have got ikeme has to punt it cause were shut down quickly cause were to slow sako goes back everytime cause he attacks the full back to slow and they double up on him teams have worked us out we need higher tempo



Yes agree but this is where you need technically gifted players that can find themselves half a yard, control and pass the ball.

The majority of our team, the team that mm built don't have the talent to play this way.

Like I have already said if you want succeed with the remnants that mick left you need another manager like him, the warnocks of this world.

It seems to me that the board want us to play football hence the appointment of ss. They now need to back him to the max.

All you moaners need to consider what's best for the team not just today or next season but for the next 20 years or so. Wolves were a prem side name only. Lets face it we were awful up there. The same players that couldn't hack it in the prem can't hack it in the championship. That says it all to me.

Time to show some courage and fight and get behind stale. I'd hate to be in the trenches with some of you! You'd run a mile!!

Wolves moose



Totally agree trouble is half people on here don't understand football these players are moulded for the likes of warnock big Sam everyone bangs on about o driscol or poyet what would they do different to stale the players can't play this way ability dont allow it so it either back stale and stick to this style of sack him and go back to shift in graft short term fix long term dire

Danny



29 Dec 2012 23:45:18
if they are going to sack him we must have a replacement in mind beause we dont want to go down the road of last season, sacked mad mik went for curbishley he said no then morgan and moxey panicked went for steve bruce got the job then moxey said fans didnt want him then tried to get walter smith, panic panic panic appointed tc we all no wear that went. then morgan appoint stalle and then said we only interviewed two people for the job stalle and tc just shows you the ambition of morgan. forget sacking him morgan will not admit he was wrong this is the worst football ive seen down here for years no midfield at all and the worst of all the players dont no what there doing and stalle wants to give berra a new contract ? enough said



 
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