Wolves Banter Archive August 28 2016

 

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28 Aug 2016 21:39:49
What posters don't understand here is that whoever backs the club is not necessarily the financier. Fosun will underwrite the borrowing but not guarantee them. If WW overspend the debt will be theirs. The parachute payments as a result of relegation from the Premier League have gone, unlike Villa who have ambitions to get back straight away. The circumstances are quite different and fans don't understand this. Fosun are a lifeline but they are not a financial bottomless pit. They need to be shrewd and are in business to increase the value of WW. The negative, spend, spend, spend attitude is not helpful, indeed it displays a lack of financial and business understanding. Get real they and WIZ are doing a great job so far. Stop wishing for that which is not attainable.



29 Aug 2016 00:44:29
Totally agree with this post. This is a long term investment not a short term crash and burn. Rhodes and Martin will not fix things. Rhodes now in premiership team can't get a kick. Anyone who has seen us play this year will say that the new signings have something about them, young and hungry.

Team needs time to bring new players through not just drop them Into fail. Givebthem sometime to get used to the physicality and pace of the league. Villa lost 3 1 at the weekend please don't anyone say that this is a club that we aspire to be. Think we will finish above them come May.



29 Aug 2016 07:37:27
Well said chaps spot on.



28 Aug 2016 21:06:13
With all the Forest players seemingly frustrated over Burkes Transfer, There are huge rumours of Assombalonga and Lansbury having a bust up with the club. Could see them on their way out and apparently We are lining Assombalonga up as our Marquee singing. He could easily get us promoted.



28 Aug 2016 22:35:19
Villa have had bid for britt rejected today will tske large £ to sign him.



28 Aug 2016 20:00:42
Hoping saiss is signing tomorrow and I know it isn't to do with wolves but how about that oliver burke move to rb leipzig from forest definitely the strangest transfer so far.



28 Aug 2016 18:48:13
Wednesfield, PT and Devon please wake up because it is becoming tedious reading the load of rubbish you are posting. You clearly don't understand how football and business works. It is economic not emotional. It is about spending money to make more. Not just about spending huge amounts on players that will not come anyway because they already have PL contracts worth a lot of money. Fosun are playing a shrewd game that will work or it won't. If it doesn't true fans will not want it to break the Club financially so stop wishing for what cannot be afforded!



28 Aug 2016 19:23:30
Wollaby were 4th richest club in England! Fosun r playin a game that will work or it won't? Hedging your bets me thinks. Speculate to accumulate! At the moment we're shop in at lidl! I want success for our club but at the moment the owners are miles away.



{Ed001's Note - you are not the 4th richest. You have got rich owners, but so have Arsenal but they don't spend their own money, why do you assume Fosun will? Wolves are not cash rich, they are not a rich club at all, so any funding has to come from outside of the club.}

28 Aug 2016 19:37:32
If they don't spend Ed we will not succeed! Fact.



{Ed001's Note - Burnley's first promotion was achieved with no money. In fact they had to sell off their star striker at the start of that season to stave off financial oblivion.}

28 Aug 2016 19:47:44
Ed our owners as a conglomerate are worth approx 46 billion! I just hope the villa owner isn't right and they've brought us as a fashion accessory? Weds 11pm we will know?



{Ed001's Note - that is misleading. It is paper money. It is like you owning a house worth a million, it would make you a millionaire, but it doesn't mean you have a lot of money to spend. You could have all your money tied up in buying it, like Fosun could well have done in their recent acquisitions.}

28 Aug 2016 19:56:11
Proper investment is needed if our team is to succeed.



28 Aug 2016 21:44:36
Anyway, in other news'



28 Aug 2016 21:46:33
Ed is 100pc correct. We are not the 4rh richest club . We are nowhere near that. Fosun is a quoted company that makes around 800m profit. They own 30 odd businesses and our investment is just one of those. I reckon they might have spent 8-10m plus wages. A decent outlay but people expecting massive fees are deluded.



28 Aug 2016 22:40:48
The thing that I don't get is if we just play thing for fosun why fid top man fly from china to watch us at rotherham cause hr prob don't visit all his other investments so makes me think we a priotity to godun rather than just another assit.



29 Aug 2016 08:05:05
And in English please yamyam!
Only joking. I get your point and agree.



28 Aug 2016 16:42:48
Villa want able henanzez 20m. they better return to planet earth as well.



{Ed001's Note - how is that relevant? Do you understand football at all? If Wolves wanted to buy players from Hull, that would be different, but you were calling for players playing at clubs in the Prem, as first choice players, that have no money issues etc. There is no comparison.}

28 Aug 2016 17:30:39
Why won't they buy him? They paid 11 or 12 mil for maccormack! Our owners need to wake up and smell the coffee? 3 days and counting.



28 Aug 2016 18:33:32
Paul you are getting as bad as Wednesfield, people on here need to get a life and step in the real world.



28 Aug 2016 18:58:44
What is wrong with my statement? The villa guy has put his money where his mouth is?



28 Aug 2016 19:51:29
We were out of the blocks slowly again against Huddersfield. I see aguero says Pep G has changed his game a little want him the lead the pressure against the opposition from the off and encourage everyone else to get stuck in! Maybe WIZ should think about finding someone in our team to do the same. We will improve but it's going to take time to get the blend and style right. 😀.



28 Aug 2016 21:55:04
Seams to me on the evidence of the first half with that midfield we will be going nowhere, Edwards to me does nothing to inprove Zenger style of play seams limited in what he adds to side not good enough for me, now we have the break we need to play our new sighnings a lot of players who played the first half against Huddersfield have had there chance, but it's only my opinion for me they need taking out the team because we were outplayed first half and kept giving the ball away.



28 Aug 2016 23:14:46
The Villa owners haven't spent a bean given the parachute payment and money from sales. The people moaning are the same ones that whinged about morgan and Moxey. Look at Leicester for a model of how to build a club. No big stars large fees or wages. Jordan Rhodes big money poor attitude and work rate can't even get in Scotland squad bargain at 10 million plus. Wake up everyone.



28 Aug 2016 22:15:47
Tamworth. The Villa had a massive payout from dropping out of the Premier and that continues for 3 years. We paid big wages and large fees before but what good did it do! Leave those that know to do their job . Ed you talk a lot of sense but with some your wasting your time buddy.



28 Aug 2016 16:41:47
What Wolves fans don't seem to understand is that the club is a stand alone concern. Fosun have seen an opportunity to grow the club and make big monet but this only comes with performance. Man Utd are worth mega bucks. Wolves were bought for C£45m. The potential is huge but the investment will be cautious and money will not be wasted. Yes the owners are mega rich but this is not Abramovich. Get real this is an investment to Fosun and any debt is that of WW. Succeed and the future looks bright, fail and the debt could be unsustainable. Hence the need to be prudent and cautious. Mega bucks signings are unlikely and in my opinion reckless. What is happening at the moment is perfect.



28 Aug 2016 18:04:09
Agree wolf by, but the money is in the prem.
Whilst the squad is a million times stronger than last season it's top six at very best.
It's a work in progress
Think it's going to take 3 windows to make us a force.
Had we not been taken over we would be doing a Blackburn.



28 Aug 2016 18:35:36
Well put you guys it is getting silly on here.



28 Aug 2016 22:17:17
Totally agree . Some very silly comments from people who clearly don't understand the world of reality.



28 Aug 2016 15:33:28
Was walking past compton. Asked the guy guarding the gate about transfers. He says wolves will announce a big signing on deadline day. He didn't tell me anymore : (



28 Aug 2016 16:31:08
There is nobody on the gate! Total BS.



28 Aug 2016 17:56:46
There is. remember that bloke up the tree outside wiv his laptop?



28 Aug 2016 18:00:05
Joe Hart signing season loan deal.



28 Aug 2016 23:07:14
Shrewsbury - give it up, Everton were put off by the wage contribution for a loan deal (do you really think that's 20K a week - more like 100% of his £150k wages) .

If we pay £150k/ week for Joe Hart it begs the question why have we not been prepared to pay what amounts to fractions of that for others we have tried to sign.



28 Aug 2016 15:09:18
Sorry for coming across as a moaner if i'm wrong i'd be the first to hold hands up as spme already know. just to let you know . moxey and Morgan are not here no more we don't need to scrimp and scrape any longer we are a billionaire club and will not go bankrupt if we buy a decent player. come on lads this is what we have all been waiting for . there's no time like the present. we were told money was no object . but we already new that. we've paid our way for years watching a standerd club. and now we have the financial power to be a top club in the country in 5 years time nobody wants it. it's what us fans deserve. That's why I'm so passionate about. getting related to league 1 and the baggies taunting us . I just want to get back up . but we won't if we don't spend unless we fluke it. come on me babies!!



{Ed001's Note - the problem is that the players you are asking for have no interest in joining Wolves.}

28 Aug 2016 15:49:10
Where there's a will there's a way as our new mate says " (mendes) " nothing is impossible.



{Ed001's Note - and all the time wasted chasing players who are not going to join is not going towards finding the players who will join and can strengthen your squad. You really need to return to planet earth.}

28 Aug 2016 16:18:44
well said ed.



28 Aug 2016 16:48:16
We have no right to go up noway . we now have a great platform right down to the tea lady'were before moxey did the lot. i'm over moon wots happen in the last month YES month. chill your beans some lads. I won't jordan I won't wells😂. I see villa won yesderday with x prem in there and spent over 20 mill allready.



28 Aug 2016 17:20:43
Villas owner is doing more than ours.



28 Aug 2016 18:40:05
No Paul he had spent more than we have, that's all. Doesn't mean to say because he had spent loads that villa will be any better than us now does it?
This isn't Championship Manager on the PC this is for real so stick your head under the cold water tap and get real!



28 Aug 2016 19:03:52
Hope we finish higher than villa but I doubt it with our acquisitions compared to there's . U put your head in a bucket of water and hold it under for at least 5 mins!



28 Aug 2016 19:18:23
Villa still have premiership money, we do not.



28 Aug 2016 14:37:01
Fulham have out bid wolves for Chris Martin.



28 Aug 2016 15:28:49
Where's this posted?



28 Aug 2016 15:54:49
The s*n newspaper they bid 5 m so our bid was probs 4.5 and derby have now signed vydra for 8 m sky sports so Martin got to be on way out.



28 Aug 2016 23:09:00
You believe the fees quoted in the S*n (that explains a lot! )



28 Aug 2016 14:01:58
Asamoha Gyan is currently in the UK looking for a club to go on loan to for a season. His Agent says he has offers from the championship and the Premier League. Does anybody think Wolves should go for him?



28 Aug 2016 14:24:51
Definitely but we won't wages to high.



28 Aug 2016 14:37:24
Might be worth a look at but if others are interested then perhaps a trial would not be on. Anyway I'm not convinced we need more before Xmas. We have Bodvarson, Gladon, Dicko, Mason, Enobakhare and Zyro (after injury) . Not sure that won't last until the next transfer window. An experienced central defender and Saiss would be my priorty. Plus no expensive prim donna!



28 Aug 2016 13:58:16
lets all be positive wolves are back and the pack are showing there fangs.



28 Aug 2016 13:55:20
we are on a roller coaster enjoy the ride it is a lot better than when old regime was here. we have only lost one game so far.
I am quite looking forward too deadline day.
I see this season as a free throw for the new regime.
oh by the way my mum is much better now.



28 Aug 2016 14:21:48
Good news about your mum mate, not sure about the pack yet though?



28 Aug 2016 13:09:42
Paul Tamworth good shout!



28 Aug 2016 18:18:43
Wednesfield your only seem happy when we lose.



28 Aug 2016 12:59:08
Sean Dyce was feeling sorry for himself the other day saying transfers were hard. So this is what you do e r here's 20m for gray . gray comes home you have got more funds.



28 Aug 2016 13:09:21
After reading his twitter coments wouldn't want him anywhere near our club, we are not going to spend 20 mil on one player, get real mate, at least your posts on here make me chuckle!



28 Aug 2016 14:06:20
George you should ignore Wednesfield mate as he ain't got a scooby doo, thinks first choice prem strikers are going to drop down to championship, been playing too much fifa on ps4 me thinks.



28 Aug 2016 14:36:40
I think he's been on the scooby snacks rogue :)



28 Aug 2016 12:56:31
Shyted 83 you have just said we will not get promoted this year are you for real lol that's the target to get promoted zenga Jeff shi has said it and all wolves fans want it. hence the reason were stating the facts.



28 Aug 2016 13:09:11
You can't stamp your feet and shout like a child just to get your way, it's very immature. Everybody is entitled to their view and this forum should be about debate. Wednesfield you are trying to dominate it. I'm worried about your blood pressure. Calm down and have a cup cake. You have no power or influence (thank goodness) . Fosun have the investment expertise and, at the end of the day this is a business that needs a sustainable future not a spend fast and get nowhere hot head. You seem, by the way you are posting, to want to shout and stamp your feet and it's very tiresome.



28 Aug 2016 13:31:46
Wednesfield you need to sit in a dark room for an hour! Fosun is not listening to you. They have a plan and they are following it through. They will not panic buy or spend multi-millions on a single player!



28 Aug 2016 11:33:39
What about a 15m bid for callum Wilson and 60k a week. or Andre gray. or Danny ings.



28 Aug 2016 11:49:34
This next few days will show if Big Jeff and Fosun are all talk? Dr zee or whatever his name is at Villa does talk a lot but he is puttin his money where his mouth is! He also says are new owners and the baggies owners have brought the clubs as fashion accessories? Prove him wrong Big Jeff? 3 days and counting.



28 Aug 2016 12:01:38
I agree Paul, none of us really know the ambition at the moment and a few of us commenting on here are getting shot down.
We will all know a lot more by 11 o'clock Wednesday evening.
I find it strange that we have a manager on a one year contract and maybe players won't sign because of that.
We are all guessing at the moment.



28 Aug 2016 12:04:35
OMG you two take the biscuit. Just because you spend a lot doesn't mean you succeed. It's just a p**s**g contest. Chelsea proved that, in spite of the money it took years to get where they wanted to be. Realise Fosun are just the holding company who can underwrite the debts while the prospects look good. The debts are on the club. Fosun are an investment organisation who will seek success but not at all costs, hence they will be smart and cautious. If you can't live with that I suggest you change alliegance and stop fantasising.



28 Aug 2016 12:12:52
Get real! Some of you fans are so fickle and impatient. Wednesfield Wolf can you really see Andre Gray giving up his first chance in the Premier League. And secondly can you really see Burnley accepting a bid 3 days before the window shuts! Brain dead! Paul, you were very positive when FOSUN took over now we've signed 9 players and we lose one game and you're saying that they don't give a s**t! These things take time! This will upset you. In my opinion WE WILL NOT GET PROMOTED THIS YEAR! That's not me being negative just being realistic and don't live in the world of football manager, players take time to gel, learn the tactic, it's not an instant process. We've seen an improvement already and hopefully that'll continue. In the eyes of most teams we are just a second tier team, forget the past, players won't pay much attention to that. That's why we build slowly and then we consolidate our place in the premier, not boom and bust. So stop being so negative and don't pin all your hopes on promotion this year. I am just glad to see Wolves getting players in, playing attacking football and seem to want wear the shirt! Keep the faith!



28 Aug 2016 12:17:05
If you spend nothing, you go down!



28 Aug 2016 12:25:48
Villa and Newcastle have premier league money, that's why they spend big, callum wilson and andre gray haha leadin strikers for their clubs in the greed league, no chance! We are building towards a sustained push for promotion over the next couple of years, it takes time, we were only took over a few weeks ago with a threadbare squad and a clueless manager, we know have a squad and a decent coach, give it time, delusional wolves fans at their finest!



28 Aug 2016 13:06:26
George, tell me, how do you know the plans Wolves have? Are you in the know?



28 Aug 2016 13:26:08
Devon don't try to jump on the mind game band wagon buddy. mheorge makes valid comments people like you just want to spend freely in the hope it works. We will not go down this year we probably will not get promotion but we lose one game and the world is coming to an end. Get real Devon, Wednesfield and the like. We are in a far stronger place than 6 weeks ago . Go and give your heads a shake.



28 Aug 2016 13:41:57
Of course not devon, I have followed wolves all my life and reading the comments coming out of the club from jeff, walter, etc is that they want wolves in the prem as soon as possible but I haven't read anywhere they want to do it this season, common sense really. You say we spend nothing and go down, do you think the players we have bought in cost nothing, add up transfer fees, loan fees and wages and its not a small sum. You also say its strange about zenga having a one year contract, but i'm pretty sure mad mick and kenny were on 1 year rolling contracts, someone may wish to confirm that just incase you accuse me of knowing too much!



28 Aug 2016 13:42:56
Spanish, we all want a good Wolves team and to be honest, it would be great if we could bring players through the youth system. It's not about what is spent, it's what it's spent on. I'm not convinced what we have purchased so far will fancy it in December, January and February but time will tell.
There is no need for mud slinging though as we should all want the same thing.



28 Aug 2016 13:51:00
The main word is AMBITION? What is Fosuns? The clocks tickin? Posters on here do u realise we've got billionaire owners! Wakey Wakey were the 4th richest club in England, let's take advantage of it. Harrods is open F--k lidl!



28 Aug 2016 14:35:29
Nice one spanish.



28 Aug 2016 15:41:36
Some people are being too negative, but some people are being too positive. It’s probably best to at least wait until the end of the season to see if Zenga is going to be good enough long term. As for FOSUN, it’ll probably be three seasons or so to make a judgement.

Also, we aren’t the fourth richest club in England. We have the fourth richest owners depending how you are calculating the owners’ wealth. They have a big portfolio of companies and will allocate funds where they see fit. The £20-£30 million of investment over the next two years was probably accurate. That’s still good enough to achieve promotion.



28 Aug 2016 11:28:38
It's nothing to do with fitness. zenga doesn't want to upset the failures of last season for some reason. it's a dog eat dog game I would just start our best team .



28 Aug 2016 11:14:15
I seem to remember jeff shI saying money was no object. so all the people who have said I'm negative. I'm just going off what we have been told . we have entered a lottery when we could have had a garantee of a top 6 finish by signing proven known quality . instead we could finish anywhere in the table because we have entered the unknown. sorry for stating this fact when we were unbeaten but you can take your hands from your ears now and open your eyes . uptw.



28 Aug 2016 14:46:37
No he said "we would have to be sensible" get over yourself you are coming across as very negative and i'm wondering if you're a Baggie in disguise.



28 Aug 2016 15:13:39
I love Wolves fans, 2000 travel to Huddersfield with me, 400 in the bar, before, during, and after the game WTF that makes it an expesive feckin piss up.
Then you come on here and read Wolves have no ambition. when was the last time we saw 9 players brought it during a transfer period (and it's not shut yet) .
There are a few wind up merchants on here that are spoiling a potentially good site.
You know who you are,
You know who you are,
Your'e talking such bollox,
You know who you are. 👍😎👍
Get behind the feckin team, we didn't get beat yesterday we allowed ourselves to get beat. RVLP was crap End of. He got a silly rebound off the post, our's off the post rebounded and trickled out for a throw in, Some days just don't go right.
Message to the old team.
The king is dead.
Long live the king.



28 Aug 2016 06:38:52
We are playing catchup. WZ (wiz as I call him) had no pre season with the team to get them playing the way he wants and all our new recruits have arrived in the last 3 weeks. Again, no playing time together, so we are a long way behind and mostly reliant on last seasons team. It's all going to take months to sort! Getting their arses into gear at kickoff has to be a priority though! It's a bad hang over from last season that's going to cost us if not! As a priority we need to try and sign a good clever CM, it my view one with a good future (Will Hughes), we need a target man like Jordan Rhodes and a striker like Chis Martin, a bonus would be Ince. These are players who can play at PL level and know our league very well! We would stand a chance of succeeding combined with what we have. It would cost of course, but be money well spent for the short and long term and get us where everyone wants to be. The PL. 😀😀.



28 Aug 2016 08:40:13
How long do u give them WOLVESCOAST? These are Proffesional footballers who should be ready to play. Il predict now that if Walt keeps pickin the majority of our 15/ 16 team we will be mid table at best! Big Jeff forget Mendes he's linin his own pockets, look in the Prem for your centre half centre mid and striker, players who know what the English leagues all about. I'm certainly not going to keep going up and down the country wastin my money watchin last seasons dross. Honeymoons over Walt. September 10th it begins!



28 Aug 2016 09:01:55
Well PT hasn't taken long for your bubble to burst. back to your old moaning self. used to be jackett Morgan Moxey out. what now sent a forum Mendes out. players have to blend in we will have 2/ 3 more players in by Wednesday. then we will have a squad to compete . Walter knows what he is doing and will introduce the new signings.



28 Aug 2016 09:22:26
Hi PT, I'm saying to integrate the new players and sus out you best working 11 is going to take months. The pre-season time at least. We haven't got that it's been and gone. English prem players will cost a lot and be over priced as most players in the uk are. Good proven players who can cut it in the prem is what we want don't you think. 😀.



28 Aug 2016 10:31:42
Yes that's why I'd tell Big Jeff to shop in the Prem. If these new players 75% fit can't oust Saville Evans Coady Edwards and Wallace then their not good enough. I go to the games and pay my money so il have my say. Sometimes il happy clap, but other times il moan, and after seein just one new signing start il moan!



28 Aug 2016 11:21:18
Agree with PT. if the same team plays against Newcastle I will certainly think twice about going away again.



27 Aug 2016 23:17:36
Went to the game today all good to be fair just that when I watch Doherty he can't take tball past the man on the out side which really is annoying our full backs should be bombing forward.



28 Aug 2016 13:34:24
Tamworth I Have always thought your comments have been level. Sorry mate but your going off on one like a spoilt child. Agree yesterday's starting team would not have been my choice but I am not the manager neither are you or any other wannabe managers on this page. You pay your money and have a clear entitlement to say what you want but don't lower yourself to the level of Wednesbury who moans as a hobby and if there had been a moaning category in the Olympics we would have had gold without a doubt. I am sure more signings will be made in the next few days and if we are not improved after 10 more league games your current moans may then be valid but not after 4 weeks mate.



27 Aug 2016 23:38:31
With deadline day fast approaching, if we were to make new additions:im interested to know who all you'd like to sign?



28 Aug 2016 01:33:32
Chris Martin or Nahki Wells.
Romain Saiss and a centre-back - say Mancienne for another spell here. Always did well for us.



28 Aug 2016 10:38:57
Like there going to wells with 4 days and top lol.



27 Aug 2016 23:31:03
I have a feeling that Martin will be our next signing due to county buying Vydra. Looks like they wanted a replacement before selling him.



 
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