Wolves Banter Archive April 28 2013

28 Apr 2013 23:04:44
Can everyone stop thinking there will be a fresh squad next year and that all the under achievers will be gone as you are I believe forgetting several key issues.

1) Transfer fees, can you see Moxey selling on the cheap, he prides himself on driving a hard deal, plus how many of our "stars" will be wanted by premier league teams and how many championship teams can afford them.

2) Wages, if you are used to being paid £30k a week and the boss says "I want to sell you, I have a buyer but they can only pay you £20k per week" would your answer be like mine along the lines of "it starts with F and ends with F"

For reference remember Leeds and the number of teams wage bills they subsidised or Zidgic at Blues on his £60k, they cannot move him because he won't go.

The only ones who will go are those that are any good or have potential, simply put the ones we need

Will Leigh Griffiths be staying or sold to to raise money

3) Downo, who in their right mind would want to sign for a manager whose claim to fame is having two clubs relegated in successive years and as a reputation for playing cr*p
football

Sorry but I think that our problems are set to get worse before they get better as Morgan does not trust Moxey with his money (and rightly so) and Saunders has less skills in management and understands football less than my Labrador (at least he is Golden from nose to tail) {Ed003's Note - like I said on an earlier post,in league 1 you will have to adhere to the 60 % wage to income cap,some high earners will have to go and to be honest will want to(that's an other issue) but with you still getting parachute payments you will be in a good position if the worst happens}

If managers get sacked for doing a bad job, why can't footballers. Are contracts so badly written that they say "it's okay, even if you play s***, you will still be paid, we will allow you to take the team down, and there's no way we will sack you"?

28 Apr 2013 20:33:20
To those that think Bruce was the answer. My mate is a big Hull fan and tells me they are garbage. Be down before xmas ( if they get there ). He is the same as MM, good in the championship, no good in the prem.
SS should have been allowed to strip it right back to the bare bones and start again with a proper war chest. But no, that war chest never arrived. These players over performed for MM, that's what he is good at, the minute he left we saw them for what they really are. You add the rest.
GET MOXEY OUT.

100% correct mate. Get S. S. back now. P. J.

28 Apr 2013 20:00:49
Get Edgar Davids in as manager.

28 Apr 2013 15:46:13
Ed just seen on the main page that Wolves will be hit with a transfer embargo because of our wage bill being too high for league 1. Any truth or substance to this? {Ed003's Note - Not yet,in the summer you will have to address your wage bill to be no more than 60 % of your income,but you will still have parachute payments so it shouldn't be a problem really.}

28 Apr 2013 16:18:25
why don't you muppets grow up and develope brains. wolves demise started under mccarthy and we have been in freefall ever since. yes, moxey has to go, morganwould probably sell if anybody was interested, but it is certainly not deanos fault, mourino could not have saved us. bully is right, deano must be given till christmas to see what he can do to arrest the slide, stabilise the club and get us going forward again. it may take two seasons to get back into the championship, let alone the premiership, so get used to it, or support man united.

Agree - clean slate, new start completely. The rot really set in when we signed Roger Johnson and he was given the captain's armband. The rest of the players obviously didn't respect him and neither did the supporters. All downhill from there.

Hi, Muppet here. You are correct, McCarthy does have a lot to answer for. But as I'm a muppet maybe you can explain something to me. Why should we stick with Saunders? What can you see that I can't? Have you seen a style if play that will take us forward? Have you noticed a tactical genius 10 years ahead of his time? Is he a fantastic man motivator that brings the best out of the players? Can he attract players that will stop the rot?
Sorry, but I think the job is beyond him. But then, what would a muppet know?

Mupiits? and you're qualifications to be an expert are?

What the hell are you on about, we were above the legation zone in the Premier League when McCarthy was sacked. Wolves demise started the same minute he drove out the gate.

You would honestly give downo until Christmas. they bloke is useless, a complete no mark. what happened to giving SS time to sort this pile of s**t team out, and that bloke wanted to change the complete structure of the club and teams playing style, all saunders had to do was get the team hoofing the ball around'mccarthy style and he can't even do that, get the bloke out of the club, with Moxey at the season end and get a real manager in, like Warnock, or Coyle. managers who know how to get the best out of players and take no prisoners, then if. and its a massive if, when they get us promoted back to the prem, offer them the DoF position and look for a proven prem quality manager to get us established and progressing in the league. MFA.

Had Solbakken stayed I think we'd at least been safe, had the players turned up for him anyway.

The likes of Henry are the rot that has to go now, this is where the root cause of our problems are.

28 Apr 2013 15:03:47
Well what a mess, I have never been so frustrared, disappointed or disgusted in nearly 60 years supporting WWFC. First off, We will do no good why Mr Moxey has anything to do with the playing side of the club, financial administrator on a much reduced salary perhaps, but with no representation on the board, the appontment of a director of football and and the appointment of a half decent manager with a plan. Secondly the severe pruning of the failed playing staff no names but the future has to be in the younger players. Thirdly the banning of those who disgraced our club yesterday, I was in the "North Bank" and was aware of what was going to happen at the final whistle, so where were the Police, disgraceful all round. Out of Darkness cometh Light, but not with these proven failures.

Disgraceful behaviour by the stewards which is why the guy kicked out. Videos are now circulating on fbook. As for kicking advertising boards, well the players do this when celebrating so why can't a fan kick them?
As for the mess well, the conspiracy theories will be doing the rounds soon. I believe the academy is strong enough to get us back up next season so bye bye to the millionaires with no ambition!

The problem as I saw it was the stewards on the Steve Bull side were letting fans on whilst on the Billy Wright were trying to stop them. With the limited numbers available they should have admitted defeat, protected the tunnel, players and officials. When the Police arrived most dispersed.

I have seen various reports in newspapers today ranging from hundreds of trouble makers to over 1000. In truth I saw somebody talking to KD, A couple of fans giving RJ flack but he seemed to be giving as much back. Twit with a blue top kicking a steward but a number of wolves fans protecting the steward and two guys kicking a hoarding on TV. Papers wrongly state that one fan was arrested during the trouble ( no there wasn't it was a 15 Year old Burnley fan drunk before the game. Whilst I not condoning anything, think it was a disgrace and they should be banned for life, but the the trouble was caused by a small minority and any fan will confirm we have always attracted a few
persons.

28 Apr 2013 14:29:34
all the regrets about mccarthy are mis placed he was useless in the prem be truthful! stale had no experience in the champ morgan should have brought in a no 2 such as peter reid instead stale brought in a german again with no experience a recipe for disaster, then steve morgan expected dean saunders to get us out of this mess deans cv in the championship read relegation already, even fergie would have struggled, were more or less in league one mr moxey should resign and hopefully 75% of the present playing staff will leech elsewhere give deano a chance with the finger on the sack button he's done well in lg 1 give him a chance

28 Apr 2013 12:32:35
no passion no commitment no responsibility there's not a leader amongst them could you imagine incey as a player putting up with that saunders has been the fall guy they could have moved heaven and earth to beef up the squad but they chose to keep the money in the bank well mr morgan and mr moxey we got our injuries when things were looking up but where was the back up! simply there was none and in my opinion its all down to you two before I finish may I say there was only one true wolves man out there which was stephen hunt

Shame that Wolves fans reacted in such a manner as they did yesterday. Generally the fans who have loyally travelled away this year have been supportive up until the final whistle, the same can not be said of a some others. Young, and older, players do react to encouragement and too often the "fans " have been more anti Wolves than the opposition fans. The failure is not just the players, management and directors, we the fans must take some of the blame. If you want to jeer then stay away next year or with a younger team we may end up in Division 2.

28 Apr 2013 11:53:53
My thought, on a positive note, is we can build a strong young spine to the team. Hopefully the dead wood clear out will finally commence. My spine would be; any of the goalkeepers I think they are all good (but don't think we can afford all four), Danny Batth, David Davis and Jake Cassidy. There are plenty of players to supplement this spine such Doherty, Forde, Elokobi etc. Not sure about captain but maybe Davis. Players like Mcalinden should get plenty of opportunities too.

28 Apr 2013 10:09:57
Congratulations to all the persons who wanted Stale out- you got what you deserve

He was useless along with saunders both of them are rubbish anyone who thinks otherwise are deluded

No, stale was trying to change the culture/style of play at the club, which takes time. But you fans can't ever see beyond one season at a time. We would've finished mid table, but instead you impatient fans pushed the panic button and the result was Downo and his antiquated hoofball which any professional side can cope against! Don't blame the board, blame yourselves!

Can't agree more OP. The fans are too inpatient and want instant success because they have seen citeh and chelski buy success. But we are not citeh, chelski, united etc. WE ARE WOLVES and its going to take time. Solbakken would be the perfect guy to rebuild us now but as the OP says fans were too inpatient.

TDW

Right on Salbakken being right to take us forward for the future. He would have changed the culture and dragged us into the new world. Even most championship teams this season have attempted to play footbalL and keep tha ball on the floor and to the forwards feet instead of hoof!

Wrong on the board. They supported neither Salbakken or Saunders.

28 Apr 2013 10:04:15
disgusting, morgan and moxey didn't even stay to the end. I left about 5 minutes after the final whistle, when the mindless thugs were on the pitch, and their cars were gone. I feel very sick at the moment. The thought of visiting crewe and colchester, for example when a couple of years back we were visiting old trafford and the emirates. M&M are really killing this club

WILKO

28 Apr 2013 09:53:34
I love being a wolves fan even if we are the Simpsons version of a football club. Dysfunctional yes and never far from controversy but I still love em.
WWFC it's a life choice.
Wanderer s till I die.

Jez moxeys second chin

Its never boring supporting Wolves, got to dust ourselves down and go again. Seen lots of views blaming owners, players and the fans but we all want what's best for Wolves. Its easy to support Man Utd, Chelsea etc but supporting Wolves is different, like a rollercoaster, down at the moment but will be back.

28 Apr 2013 08:48:38
this club is rotten to the core, morgan to blame end of, promsing a war chest in jan what did we get nothing, morgan out. moxey out, deano the beano out, deadwood out. don't blame the fans for runnung on the pitch and saying morgan leave

27 Apr 2013 23:49:44
Pitch invasions are never pretty but we all need to understand the reasons for it. and that is sheer frustration. As we have all said this squad should be nowhere near relegation yet here we are looking at the map to see where the hell stevenage is. The responsibility for this lies with Mr Morgan and Mr Moxey full stop. They employed a manager with no track record forget whether he was a good palyer or not and now they have reaped the reward.
I really hope they fel it where it hurts in the pocket like us true WWFC fans who pay week in week out to watch this dross, if you own a football club you have a big responsibility to the fans, this is not about building houses Mr Morgan. I am not asking him to leave but I am asking him to really understand the impact of poor management upon the fans of this club. We have been humiliated for the last 2 seasons and sadly a large part of the blame sits with the owner and the CEO and board. It's time Mr Morgan to take a long hard look, make your choice and let's all be happy with that decision. Read into that what you will.

I agree 100% morgan fault for, telling lies after lies, morgan OUT

Person pitch-invading fans out

27 Apr 2013 23:39:54
Thank you Mr Morgan for destroying our club, 4 disastrous decisions have seen us become a laughing stock not just in the midlands but the entire country, 1st untimely sacking of Mick, 2nd O'connor appointment, 3rd not giving Stale 2 transfer windows to overhaul a s*** squad, then Deano, **** me. crap football, crap results. Bescot here we come!

Can't argue, the results of their actions speak for themselves. Wildly out of their depth in any football league. wolfshead.