Wolves Banter Archive February 22 2013

 

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22 Feb 2013 23:36:43
The free fall that the club is in can only be stopped by a manager who has a pair.

MM got the sack (too late in my opinion) as the club had reached a level and despite spending more than most premier leagues teams (check the numbers) where going know here except backwards

TC was only appointed because the club had no other ideas, unfortunately TC was liked by the players and the club became controlled by the players who realised we where doomed and conceded defeat (Saunders I think recognises this) unfortunately TC knew that his job was only temporary and in fitness was a dead man walking

SS was the best thing to happen to wolves for many a year, we all wanted to copy the Swansea model of football but did not want to take a few seasons, equally the players worried that with his new arrivals that they would get found out and their comfortable existence would be gone, thus they downed tools and Morgan panicked

DS was given a job based on perception of his Liverpool days and links with Souness and helped the club avoid the embarrassment of repeating the fiasco of last year

Unfortunately DS has not got the clout or passion to tell either SM or JM that the majority of players are just not good enough, his initial thoughts after a couple of games was that a clear out was required, in interviews now I am sure one day he will confirm that he would happily have their children.

So in my opinion its make your mind up time SM & JM

Back Saunders and his style of play and hope, after all things cannot get any worse, can they??

Or

Sack the inept person who's record is the same as Terry Connors (accept TC had 13 games) and get a no none sense manager in who makes things happen i. e. Warnock, Adkins, Di Canio

Finally I want to apologise to Terry Connor, I thought you were bad but Saunders is going to be worse



Oh dear.
Is the OP by any chance besotted by what SS said as opposed to watching the disaster that actually developed week by week under him?
Now Saunders has to try and clear up the mess that has been left by the previous managers. That might surprise the OP that it might take time.
How much did MM spend? How much did SS spend? How much has DS spent? How much does DS have to slash the budget that the others had?



SS was trying to clean up mad micks and goofy connors mess. Keep up will you.
Saunders is just in wrong place at the wrong time i've said it time and time again until Henry and his merry little boys (they are not men as men would fight for the cause) are gone then our club will continue to fail.



To compare SS style of play to Swansea's in ludicrous, they had an end product and was good to watch, our was terrible. Teams left us to pass it around, when they did have the ball they walked through a weak defence scored then watched us pass it around again. The starting point for any manager has to be stop leaking goals. DS is trying to address that - Just a bit worried it might be too late.



The only question I have with DS is why does he play so deep - to me he sets out the team some 20 yeards too deep and just asks teams to pressurise us - which to date they all have done and got goals from it. I honestly don't beleive his back room coaching is up to playing at this level - I just pray we can stay up but am not holding out much hope as each game without a win it becomes harder - also why is a sports phycholgist not been employed with every single player? a number of these players are the ones that got us promoted - so surely this is a mental issue



22 feb 2013 23:24:56
saunders is here until morgan wants to sell the club, end of story



So if you wanted to sell a football club would you -

A. Get a good price for a club in the EPL

B. sell cheaply a club that is struggling to someone else who can make a killing.

If I wanted to take a profit, I would have sold at the end of the first season in the EPL, not built a stand.



How often does a football club change hands for real money? Hardly ever. Usually they are rescue deals, with any additional money going to pay off debts.

Morgan will make money on the way, through deals and dividends, but ultimately he will "sell" the club for next to nothing. Deano is just passing through.



22 Feb 2013 20:31:07
The only people who think our team is too good to go down are M&M. The so called business men are a fine example that is doesn't work in football. 10-15 million spent last January against what we lost by not being in the prem is inconceivable. History is repeating itself. The Titanic was supposedly a tight ship need I say more.



22 Feb 2013 19:56:27
we have serious problems

just read the statment of deano on the wolves website saying Domunbie is back this is good news! I really rate him

the bad news is he likes hunt as is gutted he has a chest infection

if he rates hunt he hast got a clue what is going on

Hunt along with henry edwards berra ward and foley are the rot if this team

big earners who belive there prem standard and they're not even good enough for the championshhip to beat barsnley ipwshich derby to name a few

ridiuculous he's 30 injury prone and useless

i really worry and please deano stop playing the rot ans atop playing people out of postiiton and go back to playing RM in RM rather than CM
he keeps going on about we've got loads options but yet we play a CM?

Pezko has looked really good when he's played but yet not even named on the bench last few games?

Baffleddd



What I most love about Doumbia is the number of ways his name is spelled on this forum.

Seriously though, yes, he's a good player. Hunt on the other hand is one of those players who should be better, and at another club he will probably do well.



22 Feb 2013 17:22:03
what a shambles, bottom three of championship exactly a year we slipped into bottom three of premier league and never got out. I think Saunders was a bad appointment because his CV shows relegation from the championship with Doncaster. The cheap route obviously, the same as Solbakken. We need to appoint a proper manager with experience and knows what he is going. Also, Moxey and Morgan need to go because they quite clearly don't know how to run a football club. League One next season everyone.



This must be deja vu for Moxey, if you read about 'The Moxey years' while he was at Stoke the same things are happening here



22 Feb 2013 16:23:43
Get yourselves down the market on Saturday, buy a cheap bed sheet and write MORGAN OUT on it and bring to the game on Sunday. Then get behind the lads vocally and get ourselves out of this mess.



Moxey out is more pressing, Morgan is trusting him and that's why we are failing.



Brilliant post, Morgan is fed the BS by Moxey



Get yourselves down the market on Saturday, buy a cheap bed sheet and write MOXEY OUT on it and bring to the game on Sunday. Then get behind the lads vocally and get ourselves out of this mess.



Beleive me when I say this is morgan not moxey - he is not a yes man but is clearly put in his place when real decisions are made - MM sacked - Morgan; SS appointment - Morgan; Bruce not appointed - Morgan; DS appointed - Morgan. All Moxey is is a fall guy who takes and accepts the public flak. On the pitch it is not Moxey or Morgan - it is the players 100% thier responsability. However waht ever we need to sing our hearts out every game now and tr and lift these players - because no player is bigger than our greatt club and it is wolves we all love not the players.



22 Feb 2013 13:45:00
Go get Adkins now, give him a good salary and stay in the championship, with Saunders we are down.



He would have the same bunch of players who are not good enough.
Moxey has hidden the money from the sales and is asking managers to manager with players who aren't good enough.
Moxey is poison and is in it for himself. He won't give a toss if we go down. He has made a profit and will pick up the same salary plus his bonus for making the profit.
GET MOXEY OUT, GET MOXEY OUT, GET MOXEY OUT.



Until you said "give him a good salary" Moxey was interested in what you were saying.



22 Feb 2013 20:17:09
Adkins not a relegation fighter. Neither is Deano. Need Keane or even Warnock, who might be available soon. Yes, these are desperate times.



What has Keane ever achieved as a manager, absolutely nothing! Would hate to see him in our dugout.



Got sunderland into premier after mcarthy was sacked so as achieved something



22 Feb 2013 12:16:01
Ince and Rae. Didn't someone suggest those two for us before and get ridiculed? I guess we will see how they do. (Oh and it wasn't me who suggested it)



I seem to recall someone saying Ince was too inexperienced. Wonder what they think of Deano?



22 Feb 2013 10:48:33
I would play recorded crowd noise through the speaker system at Mol on sunday to try lift the place, 3 sides of the ground are so quiet I can hear the toilets flushing! Get behind your team you so called fans you!
EBW



Why can not morgan talk to us he talked when on about wv1 and his houses at compton



That'll be the sound of our hopes and aspirations going down the sewer.



Ill tell you what EBW why don't you pay for all our tickets and we will cheer as loud as you want. It really gets to some 'so called fans' that they have to pay £24 to watch such rubbish. We'd all like to pay the same and see us actually play well but that's not happening because of internal matters.



EBW spot on. We need to get behind our team, we are ww not Moxley and Morgan.



22 Feb 2013 09:38:27
Why are we as a club sitting on our hands when everybody knows we need strikers, do M&M want to go down is it one of their famous Long term plans or just total incompetence. P. J.



An unnamed director takes 1 mil in salary, could this be Morgan taking or Moxley either way money for nothing. If it was a PLC they would be on the burger stand!



Te be fair we also needed a left back and a centre half and we have eventually signed them, if i'm honest I don't think a striker will help our team they look so bad I think we ve got to except we re down, one player want make a difference because the other 8 players don't know how to win, there confort zone is to lose and I can't see them stepping out of it



Who is Moxley?



The £1m is just salary. I understand a further million goes into his pension fund.
With regard to a striker, why not call the guy back from Hibs? He's ours, he's scoring goals and maybe he thinks Deano will improve him as a player. Better than some stiff no one wants



One player plus 8 no wonder it won't help we will b 2 men down u plank
Siewolf



Lmao sie he wasnt counting the two new loans. now who's the plank lol



22 Feb 2013 07:45:19
People blaming Morgan and moxey for this plight when it's the player simple as we have the quality to smash this league but if they don't have the passion to fight for this club then they shouldn't be here should of gone in the summer or January I want player who care for this club the likes of ikeme batth Doherty MacAlindon Cassidy price etc not just some who turns up for a wage packet

Might accually get a response out of them if Morgan refused to pay em untill they win



Yes of course you can blame the players for poor results. But this club has a management team which on the face of it appear ineffectual and unable to make bold decisions when faced with a crisis. The decisions they have made seem inept and made by people who have control but no understanding of the business.

Wimborne Wolf



The post is so wrong. You can't tell me the managers so far haven't tried to ship them out. The problem comes when they ask for replacements and Moxey/Morgan won't fund it. SS AND DS are told to go with what you have got and they aren't good enough.
The whole thing needs ripping up and starting again. This is what SS wanted to do and the minute he asks about funds for transfers he gets the sack.



22 Feb 2013 20:21:16
Agreed mate. Stale could have achieved so much more. At least now Mick's players are in the minority.



21 Feb 2013 23:46:11
cardiff on a bad run it will get better sunday



Who for?



21 Feb 2013 23:44:32
have heard that steve bull and john richards are coming to help us out in the goalscoring department



By God me need them! Mind you they are probably fitter than SEB



Anybody know what jr is doing now?



 
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