Wolves Banter Archive May 17 2016

 

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17 May 2016 07:14:54
If a new owner does come in to the club and is going to make a change in management I would like to see them try and get Chris Houghton from Brighton because he knows this league and look at the job he's done with them and Birmingham and Newcastle in the past. Quality operator.



17 May 2016 10:46:48
Why?
From what I saw of the game last night, Brighton were like headless chickens, no composure, and very little patience, once they had scored.
In my opinion Hughton is very similar to Jackett. Ok, but just not good enough.
If a new owner is being sought ( and I have my doubts) , Jackett is a "dead man walking".
I know that we are a average to poor championship side, but if investment is found with a new owner, I would like to think we could attract a better calibre of manager. My choices would be ( in no particular order)
Moyes
Dyche ( we're bigger than Burnley, surely)
Pearson
and Allerdyce ( I think he'd love a shot at making us a Premiership side, as his last job) .
I know all this is hypothetical as there is nothing in place.
I also know a little about what goes on at Molineux as my missus is currently tutoring a player's partner in Spanish, and the players aren't being told anything either.



17 May 2016 13:10:24
I would love flores, think he now has a point to prove after watford got rid, has experience of champ and prem, if a takeover happens this is the man for the job.



17 May 2016 14:17:36
Let's be reasonable about this Brewood none of the people you mention are likely to want to come to us. Moyes and Pearson in the running for the Villa and the other two are in the premier.
Houghton has the know how to get us out of this division. Brighton only missed out by goal difference and his work at Birmingham and Newcastle getting promotion before make him the ideal candidate for me if KJ gets the boot.



17 May 2016 14:23:38
Brewood Burnley are now Premiership so whether we like it or not they stand head and shoulders above us. I remember our European exploits when we could say we were a big club but we are not any more. Old history does not cut it in the current financial based footbal system these days mate.



17 May 2016 14:46:23
Hi Spanish.
My post was purely a wish list given in response to Big cheese.
I'm sure that the people I mentioned WOULD give serious consideration to a job at Wolves, but, only if the new owners were guaranteeing a (extremely) large war chest with which to work.
As I stated earlier, hypothetical on my part, and my opinion, but as we enter the final weeks of May, and no concrete evidence of a new owner, I worry that we will lose Iorfa, Hause, and possibly Ikeme if something isn't sorted and then will be struggling to avoid a relegation battle.



17 May 2016 15:26:21
Brighton pummelled Sheff Wed for an hour but didn't quite have the quality to score more. Hughton has put that team together for a lot less than we spent and nearly got them to Wembley. Kayal looks the best midfielder in the division and they play good football. He even got a tune out of Van La Parra that no-one at Wolves could do.
Hughton would do much better at Wolves than Jacket and as for your wish list, omg!
Moyes!
Alladyce!
Not a hope in hell.
Dyche is just about to manage Burnley in the prem for the second time- why do you think he would come to us at this moment?



17 May 2016 15:53:19
So mediocre is what we're striving for. Sorry lads. We're already there.



17 May 2016 15:54:49
Moyes, maybe if a Wolves takeover is happening, otherwise Villa bigger draw for him.

Allardyce. Never. He will take the chance to build something solid at Sunderland.

Dyche. Ditto. We are not a bigger club than Burnley. We are no longer a bigger club than Leicester. Burnley could be the new Leicester. Who needs Wolves?



17 May 2016 16:02:05
Moneyshop fiasco aside (and that may well be the end of it, but still. ) we do have the potential to be a massive club again, if we got the football success too and if Moxey doesn't screw up our brand identity along the way. Unlike most other clubs that are over-urban, class-limited and so have glass ceilings (like Burnley, or Baggies) we have the heritage (in region and club) and glamorous identity ingredients to have limitless reach and to be a potential seed to another Man U, and sold right, we should be hugely appealing to many Anglo culture investors.

We do have much more potential than clubs like Burnely or Baggies. SJH could see it but was too old World to know how to reach it, I don't think Moxey ever believed it was there and just played along with him till he didn't have to any more, so he could then just run us down into something that he could personally believe in and that fitted him better personally. We are becoming an increasingly small club in order to fit around visionless Moxey.

But right now we do still have the potential, if we got the right buyer that believed in us in the right way and wanted to really make something of us, think they could attract some top names as potential managers. With the right buyer, we could be the best project going in English football. But I think Moxey must be in the way of that, after Moneyshop, I'm convinced Moxey is grossly misunderstanding of the club and it's potential and wouldn't know where or how to promote its sale.



17 May 2016 16:35:47
'brand identity'. 'glamorous identity ingredients to have limitless reach and to be a potential seed to another Man U'. 'Anglo culture investors'

We're only a Championship football club. I'll make do with a striker who can get 20 goals next season. It's nice to have a dream, but let's not get carried away.



17 May 2016 17:43:49
But we're not only a Championship football club, just like all of them, we're one with a certain potential for support, dictated by our identity and heritage. That determines what our potential is to an investor, because at any club, an investor could buy a 20 goal striker, they could potentially get any club promoted to Prem if they spent enough. But what can the club do for them then once it's in the Prem? Our heritage and identity ingredients mean we have much greater potential reach for support than most others, and so could do much more for their investment.

I agree with don't get carried away, but it works the other way too, we can't afford for Moxey to ruin our identity for short term gains now, because it will ruin our long-term.



17 May 2016 18:51:58
Ulf,
I'm with you on this. When Southampton were in League One, they described themselves as indisputably a PL club. They were laughed at. Who's laughing now? Southampton! They're in Europe. Again.

We should dream. We have the history and the glamorous potential. It will take hard work and determination to get there.



17 May 2016 19:35:03
Yes, and I thought Steve Morgan (Liverpool fan, a club with similar glamour and inclusivity to us) had the vision and that determination, I guess SJH did too, would love to know what really happened.

Or maybe it is all still on track, Morgan just concluded it needed more / different than him (after the double relegation and all the aggro) , Grayken is the answer, and this whole last season and fiasco now is a cunning plan to beat FFP and get there. Morgan could have decided all this last summer, to consolidate funds rather than push, sold Stearman, Afobe, stashed all the money save for buying Mason and Zyro who Grayken wanted for next season anyway, maybe Morgan will use that club money, plus £8m of his own money (maximum owner investment as per FFP) , plus tons from Moneyshop sponsorship, for WWFC to buy league (within FFP rules) , get to Prem, then sell to Grayken for disclosed £30m to save Morgans face (didn't make on club as wasn't profiteering but didn't devalue it either) , but really sold for £22m as he'd just invested a further £8m in Prem push. Ties up lots of odd rumours, and more fun to think about than Moxey just shooting crazy and damaging sponsorship deals from the hip while we drift aimlessly hoping for a buyer to materialise.



17 May 2016 20:40:17
Martinez? Did Wigan wonders, Pearson would never come to us as he's not a yes man.



18 May 2016 07:57:25
Yes we should be a bigger than Burnley but after many years in lower divs they are doing something right. I think of us more like teams from cities like us with good support so we should be like Boro, Stoke, Southampton, Leicester but they are the better ones we could be like Portsmouth or the Bristol clubs as it happens we are like Forest, Blackburn and Leeds.



18 May 2016 17:59:58
DT, When Southampton were in L1 they were broke and appointed their physio as manager and got double promotion. I call it luck as Adkins wasn't able to replicate the success anywhere else and I don't suggest we appoint Tony Daley as manager to test the theory.

I also wonder how well Dyche would perform away from Burnley. The best managers have already proven themselves either at other clubs or have been promoted from the staff, like Real have done with Zidane and ManU will one day with Giggs perhaps. We have no internal talent to draw upon so our best bet if we're going to lose Jackett is to get a proven manager in. Martinez or Moyes for me. Decent players will want to join us with one of them in charge. Otherwise we're as well to stock with Jackett as the alternatives in this division don't excite.



 
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